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As Pov pointed out on FB with a meme
OH NO!! I didn't mean to pick on you, PALardy!! I share your illness!! Nah, it's something I think about every day when I look at the monstrosity (beautiful, though it is) that is the Pile! It's just time to follow thru...
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...when I look at the monstrosity (beautiful, though it is) that is the Pile! It's just time to follow thru... Competing with the backup success of Hillman's 1942 The Heap, National brought out the first of their muck monster mags. It was The Piles and it was immediately banned by the comics code.
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LOL
Did an ancestor of Alan Grant write it?
(For the non-AG-minutiae-obsessed: AG teamed up with Simon Bisley to create a comic titled "Shit the Dog.")
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(For the non-AG-minutiae-obsessed: AG teamed up with Simon Bisley to create a comic titled "Shit the Dog.") You really ought to be seeing a doctor if you're excreting wildlife. Or a shrink, if you were involved in its location in the first place.
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LOL A shrink can't do SQUAT for the animal-poopers.
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So with that in mind, I wonder which of these TPBs I should use my certificate on: Vision Vol. 1 Superman: Lois & Clark Doctor Strange: Into the Dark Dimension Amazing Spider-Man: Worldwide Vol. 2 Decisions, decisions.... So I went with Vision Vol. 1 which I got a best offer of $10 and free shipping on! After applying my eBay Bucks certificate, I paid just over $4 for it! So that's it--the Pile shall not grow anymore between now and January, unless I allow myself one IST order around Christmas!
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Pile UPDATE (12/04/16)
Currently Reading
Star Wars: The Original Marvel Years Omnibus Vol. 3 Fantastic Four by John Byrne Omnibus Vol. 1 (Re-read project w/Fick)
Recently Read
Essential Spectacular Spider-Man Vol. 3 Southern Bastards Vol. 3 Star Wars: Rebel Jail Lazarus Vol. 4 Vision Vol. 1: Little Worse Than Man
To-Read Pile Mage Vol. 2: The Hero Defined West Coast Avengers Omnibus Vol. 2 Goldfish Fantastic Four by John Byrne Omnibus Vol. 2 Scout Vol. 2 Frank Miller's Ronin Deluxe Edition Marvel Masterworks: Silver Surfer Vol. 1 Iron Man by Michelinie, Layton & Romita, Jr. Omnibus Murder Me Dead (David Lapham) Stray Bullets Uber Alles Edition Grimjack Omnibus Vol. 2 Jon Sable: Freelance Omnibus Vols. 1 & 2 Secret Six Vol. 1: Villains United Underwater Welder Marvel Masterworks: Doctor Strange Vol. 6 Flex Mentallo Nemo: Heart of Ice, Roses of Berlin & River of Ghosts Orion by Walt Simonson Omnibus Shaman's Tears (Mike Grell) Howard the Duck Omnibus Just the Tips (a Sex Criminals companion by Fraction/Zdarsky) Thor Omnibus Vol. 2 Marada the She-Wolf Bandette Vol. 2 Swamp Thing (Brian K. Vaughn) Vols. 1 & 2 Pride of Baghdad Camelot 3000 Deluxe edition Guardians of Galaxy Vol. 1 (Bendis) Moon Knight Epic Collection Vols. 1 & 2 Star Wars: Legacy (Ostrander) Vols. 2-5 Star Wars: Tag & Bink Were Here The Private Eye (Vaughn) Descender Vol. 1 Deadpool Classics Vols. 1, 2 & 3 Crossover Classics Marvel/DC Vol. 1 Paying for It by Chester Brown Princess Leia TPB Secret History Omnibus Vols. 2 & 3 Showcase Presents Warlord Vol. 1 World War Hulk Star Slammers Complete Collection Crisis on Infinite Earths Deluxe Edition Thanos: Infinity Revelation The Wizard's Tale Superman: Secret Identity Twilight Children Marvel Masterworks Captain America Vol. 8 New Teen Titans Vol. 4 Thor: The Mighty Avenger Complete Collection Marvel Masterworks: The Defenders Vol. 5 Wonder Woman: Earth One Doom Patrol/Grant Morrison Omnibus X-Statix Omnibus Ultimate Spider-Man: Chameleons Doctor Strange/Jason Aaron Vol. 1 World War Hulk: Incredible Hercules Batman by Moench & Jones Vol. 1 John Carter Warlord of Mars Marvel Omnibus Death & Return of Superman Omnibus All-Star Section Eight Batgirl Vols. 1-3 (Stewart/Fletcher/Tarr) Rachel Rising Vols. 1 & 2 iZombie Omnibus Tales of the Batman: Alan Brennert Wonder Woman by Perez Omnibus (finally!) Incredible Hulk: Heart of the Atom Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall Fables: Werewolves of Heartland Omega Men: End Is Here
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So that's it--the Pile shall not grow anymore between now and January, unless I allow myself one IST order around Christmas! I've kept my word--no new trades since last time with the lone exception of that Vision trade bought with my eBay Bucks. The Pile probably would have shrunk more over the last two months, but I read a few months' worth of my backlog of floppies for a couple of weeks or so. Lots of goodness there, confirming that I made some good choices as to what titles to keep and which to either drop or convert to TPBs. Other than the Essential book to complete my Spidey project, I decided to read 4 contemporary books that my enjoyment or lack thereof would determine whether I would continue with subsequent volumes--Vision, Star Wars, Lazarus & Southern Bastards. When I find some time, I will share some snapshot thoughts of each with you all.
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I popped into the library the other day. I've not been in there in a few years and my card gets wiped for data protection reasons if I leave it. But they had a comics section!
So, I trotted back with the tail end of Swamp Thing, Superman, The Geoff Johns Legion, a couple of British things from 200AD, and a Bernie Wrightson collection!
I also got one of those...what do you call them... smaller than a normal comic or GN...like a comic digest, but without pictures...book! that's it. I picked up a book too.
There's not a huge selection. But you can request things in from further afield. Or Things. if it's another Benrie Wrightson presumably. They've had sales in the past, where I've picked up cheap history books. Just think if there had been GNs when they were doing that... >sigh<
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Working my way through the Grant Morrison NEW X-MEN Omnibus.
On their way: DOCTOR STRANGE- Way of the Weird I HATE FAIRYLAND v.2- Fluff My Life VISION- Little Worse Than A Man
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Really interested on your thoughts on your latest reads! Lazarus and Southern Bastards are two series I switched to trades on as well, which has subsequently meant I've basically forgotten they exist. Your thoughts may sway me in one direction or the other.
(Spoiler: it'll take a lot to get me to reinvest my time in either).
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Really interested on your thoughts on your latest reads! Lazarus and Southern Bastards are two series I switched to trades on as well, which has subsequently meant I've basically forgotten they exist. Your thoughts may sway me in one direction or the other.
(Spoiler: it'll take a lot to get me to reinvest my time in either). Ask and ye shall receive! Lazarus Vol. 4: Poison was a really welcome surprise. The last arc, Conclave, saved the series from being totally dropped after I'd already decided to stop getting individual issues. That arc caused me to keep going with the series via trades instead of dropping. But at the same time, I was fearful that the forward momentum the series had suddenly gained would be traded back off for the glacial pacing and wheel-spinning that had characterized the series prior to Conclave. But, again, I was pleasantly surprised. Poison featured an exciting "A" plot featuring Forever leading a small strike team to take a strategic outpost that could shift the power balance with the rival Hock family. As a result of Conclave, Forever's Carlysle family was now at war with Hock. So it was nice to see things escalating instead of just having things simmer in the background. This was a pretty tense, high-stakes mission and exemplified the forward momentum I wanted to see. If there's a small caveat with the "A" plot, it comes in the form of Forever coming off at times as some unstoppable force. I mean, she's kind of supposed to be one, but with just her small strike force supporting her, it seemed they ahould have faced even more adversity. But it was still an exciting mission, and we get to see a rather startling example of how far Forever's recuperative powers go. The "B" plots, I feel, are what really make Poison sizzle. The interior politics of the Carlysle family as they deal with the power vacuum caused by their head being in a coma are actually very interesting, especially within the context of war and fragile alliances with other families crumbling. To Rucka's credit, a lot of the slow buildup in those first dozen issues does really start to pay off in a satisfying way. And then, at the very end, there's what I think is a jaw-dropping reveal that makes perfect sense in the context of what we've seen of this world's genetic advances that also puts some scenes from earlier in the series in a different context. It really adds a new layer to the mysteries surrounding Forever. All in all, this trade did what I needed it to do for me to continue and did so in a way that really increased my enthusiasm for the book. Michael Lark remains on art and is the rock-solid foundation that makes Greg Rucka's story work. Really looking forward to the eventual Volume 5 with raised expectations and enthusiasm.
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Southern Bastards Vol. 3: Homecoming started to remind me a little of writer jason Aaron's, imo, best and career-defining work to this point, Scalped, which he did at Vertigo. (I think Scalped is one of the best long-form comics stories I've ever read, btw, so that's a good thing.) What he did here in this Southern Bastards arc is to not necessarily tell all that similar a story to what he did on Scalped, but he used a technique he'd used a couple of times in that book--each issue focused on a different character and told a self-contained story with each that still feeds on the overall plot and are all set generally before, after and during the big homecoming football game.
If you are not at all familiar with Southern Bastards, it centers around a small Alabama town whose main claim to fame is their dominant high school football team. Their coach, Coach Boss, is a ruthless S.O.B. who is also involved with organized crime and rules the town with an iron fist. In this way, I suppose, SB does have some superficial similarities with Scalped and its Chief Red Crow and how both use their settings to deeply explore their respective cultural contexts. But its the settings and nuances and unique character evolution that really differentiate one book from the other.
So this 6 issue arc spotlights six separate characters around the homecoming week. It's a mixture of major, supporting and previously unseen characters. It's unclear whether the new characters will continue to play a role or if they are just there to give flavor. One of the stories even features artist Jason Latour (who is a writer himself, having written comics like Spider-Gwen) writng the most bizarre tale of the bunch over guest-artist Chris Brunner.
Overall, it's a good volume which highlights Aaron's affinity for strong character-centric writing. If there's a weakness, it's that forward momentum is sacrificed a bit. There's a character and potential confrontation that's been teased since the end of the first arc. We finally get to spend some time with that character in the volume's final story, but we still have to wait for him or her to meet Boss and the rest in (likely) the next volume. This is also similar to how Scalped's first arc ended with a murder which was not dealt with head-on for several arcs later. That worked out well for Scalped, so I trust that it will for SB as well.
Unlike some of Greg Rucka's work, Aaron is a pro at not only building up and layering his story in an entertaining way but also delivering some real pay-off down the road that makes you glad he told the story the way he did. That's definitely the feel I'm getting from Southern Bastards that compares favorably to the well-admired Scalped.
But what I really like about Bastards is that it's a parable of the American South that feels both genuine and larger-than-life at the same time. I grew up in and still live in the South and can see a lot of truth in the story being told her by two native southerners. It's not pretty and doesn't pull any punches, but it also doesn't feel overly biased for or against its subject matter. When all is said and done, this could turn out to be an important series for those familiar or unfamiliar with the American South and its culture.
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And, btw, Cobie--did you ever read the complete first arc of Southern Bastards? I remember getting the impression that maybe you hadn't read issue 4, which concluded that arc. I wasn't really feeling the book until that issue, which made it clear that the series really wasn't about who and what it seemed to be about. It had a major twist and teased another character who I mentioned vaguely in the above review. Then, the second arc, centering around Coach Boss's history, absolutely grabbed me by the balls and showed me how great this book could actually be!
Anyhow, just curious. It may well turn out to be one of those few books you and I don't see eye to eye about, but I'm curious about how much you read. I'm not sure if the subject matter could make it harder for some to get into than others, even those who might normally be more open to grittier and more polarizing books.
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You know, I can't remember if I made it to #4--I ended right around that time, so it was either #3 or #4. I just wasn't enjoying it in the monthly format, but I've always wondered if trade-waiting was the way to go. If you'll recall, the way I read Scalped originally was the first 4 trades, then a long break, then I read the whole thing in one sitting. And that was a hugely rewarding experience. So I wouldn't mind doing the whole thing here.
I think you've convinced me in the long term to get back into Southern Bastards, but I'll wait a bit longer until there's more to read at once.
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Cool! Did you read my Lazarus review above? Think you'll check that out, too?
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That one I'm less sure on. The big difference between SB and Lazarus is Aaron versus Rucka, and the fact that Laz was just such a slow burn. On the one hand, I'm loving Rucka on Wonder Woman right now, and its probably my single favorite work of his since Gotham Central back in the day. But on the other hand, I keep thinking about how he can be such a joyless complainer, "we're all doomed" ultra liberal type, and I just can't stomach those people right now. His backmatter was sometimes so doom and gloom that it's still etched in my memory. All that being said, everything is a different story once a series concludes. If you're still feeling very positive about the series 4 trades from now, and I get a chance to really dig in and read a whole slew of trades at once, that might be a really enjoyable way to spend some time and money. So...er...I don't know? I'll say your comments certainly give me hope that I'll one day come back to it.
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Here's another recommendation for Lazarus v.4. It did pick up the pace. I enjoyed the previous volume Conclave, but it was still kinda slow - remember it as dark conspiracies in back rooms, with bursts of action. Volume 4 opens with "Mercy", which is more like one of those Cold War stories with the spy trying to get out of East Berlin: lots of suspense and action. The "Poison" arc is live battle, a small group behind enemy lines, very tense - and in the background, the conspiracies and backstabbing continue at the Carlyle compound. All in all, a more complex and varied volume than the previous ones.
I only read it in trades. I think the publication schedule has been a bit spotty for individual issues and the flow of the story is much clearer when reading in larger chunks.
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I'm another one who's going to be catching up with Lazarus in trades. I just fell away from the single issues. Not that they weren't good, just that I think the pacing lent itself much more to a better read when collected.
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Lots of trade readers for Lazarus! Will I become one? Only time will tell!
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Southern Bastards Vol. 3: Homecoming started to remind me a little of writer jason Aaron's, imo, best and career-defining work to this point, Scalped, which he did at Vertigo. (I think Scalped is one of the best long-form comics stories I've ever read, btw, so that's a good thing.) What he did here in this Southern Bastards arc is to not necessarily tell all that similar a story to what he did on Scalped, but he used a technique he'd used a couple of times in that book--each issue focused on a different character and told a self-contained story with each that still feeds on the overall plot and are all set generally before, after and during the big homecoming football game.
If you are not at all familiar with Southern Bastards, it centers around a small Alabama town whose main claim to fame is their dominant high school football team. Their coach, Coach Boss, is a ruthless S.O.B. who is also involved with organized crime and rules the town with an iron fist. In this way, I suppose, SB does have some superficial similarities with Scalped and its Chief Red Crow and how both use their settings to deeply explore their respective cultural contexts. But its the settings and nuances and unique character evolution that really differentiate one book from the other.
So this 6 issue arc spotlights six separate characters around the homecoming week. It's a mixture of major, supporting and previously unseen characters. It's unclear whether the new characters will continue to play a role or if they are just there to give flavor. One of the stories even features artist Jason Latour (who is a writer himself, having written comics like Spider-Gwen) writng the most bizarre tale of the bunch over guest-artist Chris Brunner.
Overall, it's a good volume which highlights Aaron's affinity for strong character-centric writing. If there's a weakness, it's that forward momentum is sacrificed a bit. There's a character and potential confrontation that's been teased since the end of the first arc. We finally get to spend some time with that character in the volume's final story, but we still have to wait for him or her to meet Boss and the rest in (likely) the next volume. This is also similar to how Scalped's first arc ended with a murder which was not dealt with head-on for several arcs later. That worked out well for Scalped, so I trust that it will for SB as well.
Unlike some of Greg Rucka's work, Aaron is a pro at not only building up and layering his story in an entertaining way but also delivering some real pay-off down the road that makes you glad he told the story the way he did. That's definitely the feel I'm getting from Southern Bastards that compares favorably to the well-admired Scalped.
But what I really like about Bastards is that it's a parable of the American South that feels both genuine and larger-than-life at the same time. I grew up in and still live in the South and can see a lot of truth in the story being told her by two native southerners. It's not pretty and doesn't pull any punches, but it also doesn't feel overly biased for or against its subject matter. When all is said and done, this could turn out to be an important series for those familiar or unfamiliar with the American South and its culture. Having lived in the Nexus of All Realities for 25 out of my 26 years of living in the U.S., its proximity to the South has always given me an outsider-looking-in view of Southern culture (I feel, as my hero Tim Truman does about his native West Virginia, that South Florida is both of the American South and not quite of the American South.) And I already like Aaron's writing, particularly his honesty and even-handedness, so "Southern Bastards" sounds right up my alley. Thanks, Lardy. (Will get to "Scalped" someday, I promise. Problem is, my usually reliable library system only has two or three of the trades. So I guess that now that I'm gainfully employed once again, I'll make a priority of saving up for the "Scalped" trades.) I keep thinking about how Greg Rucka can be such a joyless complainer, "we're all doomed" ultra liberal type, and I just can't stomach those people right now. His backmatter was sometimes so doom and gloom that it's still etched in my memory. I hear ya, Cobie. It's like I said in my Forsaken Fangirls thread (right around the same times as you made that post -- great minds and all that), extremism is one of the worst blights on human societies, whether it comes from the left or the right. Cheers.
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Fick & Cobie--I just wanted to report in real quick here to let y'all know that I'm currently reading Thor Omnibus Vol. 2 and enjoying the HELL out of it!!! You will recall that I walked away from FF Masterworks Vol. 5 highly disillusioned with Kirby, but I'm beyond pleased that the contents of these Thor stories you both recommended have really redeemed his greatness in my eyes to this point! THANKS!!!
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Awesome to hear that, Lardy!! You're very welcome. Yeah, Thor in its mid-late 60s prime may well be the crown jewel of Silver Age Marvel. Meanwhile, long as you're in a Kirby state of mind, you (and Cobie) are invited to check out my current Retroboot Legion story-arc, which is almost as much a New Gods story as it is a Legion story: http://www.legionworld.net/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=920282#Post920282
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For the holiday, I picked up a bunch of stuff.
Paying For It: A comic-strip memoir about being a john Justice League Darkseid War Part 2 Green Arrow: Death and Life of Oliver Queen vol. 1 Dr. Fate: The Blood Price Vol. 1
And these for $5 each: El Diablo (The Haunted Horseman) 52 Vol. 4 Final Crisis Aftermath: Escape Checkmate: Chimera Authority: Prime
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For the holiday, I picked up a bunch of stuff.
Final Crisis Aftermath: Escape
That's the one that blends Tom Tresser Nemesis with Kirby OMAC stuff. I remember it being an interesting concept, but being very disjointed.
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