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Hee hee! If it's Wes Dodds...
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According to the Wikipedia article, there have been seven characters known as Sandman in DC's history. If we exclude Dream/Morpheus and Daniel Hall, we get Wesley Dodds, Garrett Sanford, Hector Hall, Sandy Hawkins, and Kieran Marshall. I never heard of Kieran Marshall.
The only character in all of literature who has been described as "badnass" while using the phrase "vile miscreant."
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Kieron Dwyer was a somewhat prominent comic book artist in the '90s. He drew Captain America with Mark Gruenwald for a while and the Avengers with Kurt Busiek after George Perez left. He was also the stepson of John Byrne for a while.
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Didn't Dwyer also do a Newsboy Legion mini-series with Karl Kesel? I haven't read it, but given Kesel's love of Jack Kirby characters, I find it intriguing.
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My first intro to the Newsboy Legion was in the late 80s/90s Superman series, where the grown-up Newsboys were working with Cadmus while they had young clones running around. I thought that was cute.
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Yeah, the Superman annual that introduced all that stuff was a good 'un. Can't go wrong with creators like Roger Stern, Ron Frenz, and Brett Breeding working together.
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Indeed, they came up with some very good ideas.
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Karl Kesel did a lot of cool things with Cadmus and its characters, like the Newsboys and Dubbilex. I particularly love the stuff he did with Tom Grummett on Superboy.Their second run began with a great Superboy-as-Kamandi storyline.
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I *adore* Kesel & Grummett's Superboy! I missed out on it at the time, but caught up a few years ago via back issues.
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I hope you got to read both runs. I think the second was even better than the first! (Only Levitz and a few others can claim that!)
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I'm so removed from comics these days, I don't even remember any of those.
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Lardy, I did read both runs and I agree -- the second was better than the first. Rocky, you've reminded me how overdue both runs are for collections. I can't fathom how certain creators and certain runs continue to be ignored while some utter bilge gets the luxury treatment.
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Politics in action, perhaps.
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A copy of Action Comics #1 is worth a ridiculous amount of money.
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I read about someone striking gold by finding a copy of Action Comics #1 in his grandparents' attic.
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Is it officially the most valuable comic book in history? If so, I can see why because Supes is the first superhero.
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Yeah, Action #1 is the most valuable.
I remember back in the 80s that Adventure #247 was considered the most valuable Silver Age comic, but it's relative value has declined massively since then.
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Action #1 also had a coupon/competition that was meant to be cut out and sent in making it even less likely for "mint" copies to survive. I saw a youtube once that listed the names of the winners of the competition and therefore people that owned a copy of Action #1 and cut it up. Add that to the war-time paper drive and comics being seen as disposable as newspapers and it's not surprising that so few copies exist. Add that to Superman's first appearance and you have a recipe for top dollar demand.
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Goodness. Gonna keep an eye out for it for sure! (As if I wasn't already)
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Me, I prefer to buy deep-discount issues that are unlikely to be reprinted (i.e. a lot of Marvel stuff from the first half of the 90s, an era which I still think is unfairly vilified.) And since the average print run was so crazy-high, they're nice and cheap and easy to find.
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I care most about whether I enjoy reading a certain comic book. Not so much for value or for collecting. I don't really have the space anyway,
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Space: the final frontier
Big Dog! Big Dog! Bow Wow Wow!
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Every once in awhile I'll see someone complaining about, e.g., digital comics by saying something like "comics were meant to be collectible from the very beginning". It amuses because clearly they weren't. They were intended as incredibly disposable, which is why those that survived became collectible.
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Some people can't see the forest for the trees.
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