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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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DC's Endless Event shambles into town. DC's endgame, where every issue is part of an event. Never mind the quality. As long as it sounds not too desperate in the pitch meetings (with captive peer audiences). Just as long as we can continue the simple ruse of pretending that having a single idea pillar to wrap every story around is the best way to publish every title. Just raise your voice when making the pitch, so you don't get in the way of the removal guys shifting the furniture across the country, or the repo guys taking equipment back after the downsizing.
Calamitous leadership over decades? Certainly not! But that is probably the plot for the next event, just nanoseconds after the end of 5G Future State.
Find out the fates of your favourite Legionnaires! The ones you've liked best from the group shots in the couple of rooms where they've spent their first 9 issues! Find out the fate of Gold Lantern before you find out his origin (which you won't believe when it's finally told, honest)!
Join Ultra Cowl; Bouncing Mano; Ecto-iac 5; Saturn Fist; Emerald Sword (Silver Sword's kid); Shadowquinn; Kid Kid; Galaxy Girl and Bee Grrl! in the ruins of a salvaged storyline, intended for another project!
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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LOL, thothy.
"We arbitrarily killed off some big-name Legionnaires, and we hope your attachment to them from previous versions will somehow carry over to this one! For shock value, we've killed them in rather horrible ways, which you won't believe - so we'll have one panel to show you!"
"Don't worry, we've kept Triplicate Girl and Bouncing Boy around so you can see how such light-hearted concepts have become grim and gritty! Saturn Girl and Brainiac 5 are there too, because! And guns, we must have guns, because despite this being set 1000 years in the future we just can't let go of the 90s!"
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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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"We arbitrarily killed off some big-name Legionnaires, and we hope your attachment to them from previous versions will somehow carry over to this one! I dropped a line from the above which would have read "The ones you've liked best from the group shots in the couple of rooms where they've spent their first 9 issues! Not your favourites from previous volumes, because DC have gone out of their way to tell us that this is the Legion's first appearance in this universe." But with 9 issues of not much happening (and some little snippets) it's really the old readers memories of older versions that they're having to depend upon. I don't see many people going "Gosh! I don't see Entropy Lad in the future of the future! I'm so attached to that character." That could apply to most of the cast. Memories of previous versions alsolooks likely to give the emotional punch to the ones that don't survive Bendis' GDS reprise. I did wonder if this Event is going to get in the way of that Bendis story. Event publishing doesn't care for what's going on in the actual book. Just what it needs is the opening GDS-2 chapter interrupted by 2 months of fluff to burn off the 5G inventory. "... And guns, we must have guns, because despite this being set 1000 years in the future we just can't let go of the 90s!" In the future, and the future's future, the UP's enemy is the national rifle association. Brande flip flops all the time, because she's alternately fighting/pandering to lobby groups.
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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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Via Instagram, Bendis provided an alternate logo for the first issue - Hey! NEW #legionofsuperheroes mini from myself and the insanely inventive and talented @rileyrossmo (Martian manhunter) and @ivanplascenciam #dcfuturestate @thedcnation @dccomics #comics details coming but I think you?re going to be really surprised what this is . The most future of future state! Not final logo, by the way
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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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I'm not the writer or editor, but the Legion is pretty unique and can approach these types of events from a different angle rather than follow along with the same pattern as the modern day books.
If it were me, I'd have the Legion tie-in issues involve the current Legion discovering some time anomaly or whatever plot device works in this situation (not knowing the exact details yet makes it difficult to come up with a good plot point)...tied to Jon Kent as Superman. Brainiac 5 or Ultra Boy or Computo or whomever, decides to send a team to investigate and they time-travel to this Future State future to have an adventure with an older Jonathan Kent. This would be reminiscent of the Silver Age stories where the teenage Legion would visit and help out the adult Superman.
This would be the perfect opportunity to showcase a few of the underused Legionnaires such as Matter-Eater Lad, Shrinking Violet, Sun Boy, Star Boy, X-Ray Girl, Entropy Kid, or Radius Lad and provide some much needed character development on the existing Legion team rather than waste precious pages on a throwaway Legion that no one will care about after this mini/event is over.
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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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That would have been a great idea. allows the reader (and the characters) to still worry a bit about "oh no, is this future preventable?!?!" while still keeping it from being THE future of this team. "We arbitrarily killed off some big-name Legionnaires, and we hope your attachment to them from previous versions will somehow carry over to this one! Memories of previous versions alsolooks likely to give the emotional punch to the ones that don't survive Bendis' GDS reprise. I did wonder if this Event is going to get in the way of that Bendis story. Event publishing doesn't care for what's going on in the actual book. Just what it needs is the opening GDS-2 chapter interrupted by 2 months of fluff to burn off the 5G inventory. Also plot twist, the future is decimated by the Pain Plague, in another one of Bendis' attempts to refer to previous incarnations without really referring to them, so we can have more of an emotional gut-punch when things happen!
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Legion 5000? So this is going to take place in the 51st Century? Definitely not "our" Legion then or any Legion we have seen. The closest in some respects is possibly Wildfire's Legion from the "Tales of the Lost Earth" story in LoSH V4 Annual #7. The team (teams) he led were nothing like what is depicted here but the concept of a "Legion" team in the far future based on the myths from the "ancient" 31st Century. In that case I don't mind too much, especially since it probably won't have much impact on the current storyline (whatever that is). In addition it may not involve any of our current characters.
But hang on, the solicit suggests that it does involve the current Legionnaires. Oh who knows. For that matter in some ways who cares? If it's bad we can just write it off as a bad crossover that never really happened anyway and forget about it. If it's good then we can rave about how this is so much better than the current story. Uh oh my cynicism meter is beeping. Better stop while I am ahead (or behind?).
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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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"Legends of the Dead Earth" gave us Membrain, which in turn gave us FEMBrain, so maybe this story will also bear unexpected fruit!
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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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"Legends of the Dead Earth" gave us Membrain, which in turn gave us FEMBrain, so maybe this story will also bear unexpected fruit! Speaking of unexpected fruit, we've got some 'Suddenly... Ethnicity!' examples in this new BendisBoot with the Lightning Twins, Rokk, etc. but I wonder if there's going to be any 'Suddenly... Sexuality?' It would have been a hoot, for instance, if Jon made goo-goo eyes at Imra only for her to laugh and say, 'Sorry champ, I'm dating Luornu.'
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Imra and Ayla would have been a nice twist!
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Imra and Ayla would have been a nice twist! Ooh, good point. Perhaps even with a fun geeky shout out. "Oh, people kept assuming that Garth and I were a couple, because we were such good friends, and then he was out for a while (long story!), and his twin sister Ayla thought it would be cheeky to cover for him and pretend to be him, and I, of course, noticed immediately, but helped her keep up the masquerade, and, playing off the rumor that 'Garth' and I were dating, I gave Ayla-disguised-as-Garth a kiss on the cheek. Then things got real, and Garth is back, but I'm still dating Ayla!" Fun fact. Blok still thinks Imra is dating Garth, because he can't tell male and female organic sentients apart, and thinks Ayla and Garth are the same person, or possibly some sort of Carggite shapechanger?
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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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Considering Blok's outburst at President Brande, that would have been funny if he suddenly blows up and goes "why didn't anybody tell me?!"
Also: Blok not talking much in earlier scenes vs. his outburst. Planned? To show how deep the betrayal was? It might have been - but it was lost on me earlier and only thought of it now, considering how crowded most scenes are.
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"Legends of the Dead Earth" gave us Membrain, which in turn gave us FEMBrain, so maybe this story will also bear unexpected fruit! Speaking of unexpected fruit, we've got some 'Suddenly... Ethnicity!' examples in this new BendisBoot with the Lightning Twins, Rokk, etc. but I wonder if there's going to be any 'Suddenly... Sexuality?' It would have been a hoot, for instance, if Jon made goo-goo eyes at Imra only for her to laugh and say, 'Sorry champ, I'm dating Luornu.' And then there's the major hint of gender non-conformity for the Bendisboot Dream Girl, one of the few things about this run that has genuinely piqued my interest, but I won't be surprised if it's never addressed again by the time Bendis is gone.
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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"Legends of the Dead Earth" gave us Membrain, which in turn gave us FEMBrain, so maybe this story will also bear unexpected fruit! Speaking of unexpected fruit, we've got some 'Suddenly... Ethnicity!' examples in this new BendisBoot with the Lightning Twins, Rokk, etc. but I wonder if there's going to be any 'Suddenly... Sexuality?' It would have been a hoot, for instance, if Jon made goo-goo eyes at Imra only for her to laugh and say, 'Sorry champ, I'm dating Luornu.' And then there's the major hint of gender non-conformity for the Bendisboot Dream Girl, one of the few things about this run that has genuinely piqued my interest, but I won't be surprised if it's never addressed again by the time Bendis is gone. Maybe Bendis was inspired by the transgender version of Dream Girl who has appeared on Supergirl.
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I really liked the suggestion that someone on here came up with of a Dreamer who appeared only in dreams, but would appear male or female based on the preferences of the person she is appearing to.
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Dream Girl is a character that from her beginnings exudes sensuality and efficiency in her work as a legionnaire, this horrible version of Bendis, who does not matter if she is a man, a woman or a trans person and we do not know if her physical consistency is light, sand or shit? How can she make love if she or it apparently have no sexual organs ... because she are naked or are she ethereal? Whichever way Nura look ... it's one of the worst ideas of Bendis'. One more beautiful character who has ruined with his supposed brilliance as a comic book writer.
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Re: Future State: Legion of Super-Heroes, by Brian Michael Bendis and Riley Rossmo
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Gah, Dream Girl made of sand. Now I have Anakin Skywalker's whiny voice in my head. "I hate sand. It gets everywhere." Yeah buddy, try having a girlfriend made out of sand. That's gonna chafe...
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Gah, Dream Girl made of sand. Now I have Anakin Skywalker's whiny voice in my head. "I hate sand. It gets everywhere." Yeah buddy, try having a girlfriend made out of sand. That's gonna chafe... Once she learns to control her form better, she'll be like Dust from the early 2000s X-Men. Not a bad thing.
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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This may be the first version of Dream Girl that is attracted to The Mess!
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This may be the first version of Dream Girl that is attracted to The Mess! How offal.
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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Offal? That gives me an appetite, and you... Tenzil and The Mess would be great together.
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Offal? That gives me an appetite, and you... Tenzil and The Mess would be great together. LOL
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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The Mess and Calorie Queen would be good too. He attracts junk that she can eat and gain super strength from.
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Gah, Dream Girl made of sand. Now I have Anakin Skywalker's whiny voice in my head. "I hate sand. It gets everywhere." Yeah buddy, try having a girlfriend made out of sand. That's gonna chafe... Pigpen's fantasy. Dream Girl might've been quizzical at the "girl" moniker since she's magic or like 30 years old or something .
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The Mess and Calorie Queen would be good too. He attracts junk that she can eat and gain super strength from. Yeah, but I think Taryn's more of a gourmet than Tenzil.
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