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Re: LAST ROUND!!!! ACTION, Reboot or Threeboot? Ends Tuesday, 8/19
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A vote for Action Ferro Lad would be one for a resurrected Andy Nolan, theoretically using whatever resurrection technique was used to bring Karate Kid and one of Triplicate Girl's selves back to life.

Reboot would be for Ferro- the fashion-designing, insecure guy from the 21st century, who was beginning to show signs of the far more Ferro Lad-like daredeviltry before that boot's end.

A Threeboot vote would be for an as yet unseen, unwritten character that would be a blank slate.

I'm picking Reboot, with the hope that the legend of Action Ferro Lad remains-- giving the 'newer' character something to live up to.

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Ferro Lad is SW6 for me, but in its place, Action.

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For all I know, Reboot Ferro coming from the mainstream present of the DC Universe means that Reboot IS the most probable (or shall I say the real...) Legion EVAH. I'll get shot for this, heh. Rest assured, I just don't believe that.

Yes, it's a vote for Reboot. The SW6 was a pretty snazzy precursor too btw.


Next up... James Cullen (counting 5YL), and maybe the White Witch?


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Just to catch up...

MATTER-EATER LAD: 3boot - Still pulled it off without the eating-matter ability "(Stupid!)"

ELEMENT LAD: Action - Can't resist.

LIGHT LASS: Action - and it's not about Vi. Any sibling that's able to stay out of her brother's shadow gets it. 3boot's respectable, but not for the right reasons.

DREAM GIRL: 3Boot - Can't resist.

KARATE KID: Which Val is Asian? Which Val is 'white'? Sorry that I'm not one of those people "who don't see colour"... but the 3Boot twist is probably one of the finer stunts of Waid's. 3Boot.


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Ferro Lad is SW6 for me, but in its place, Action.
I completely agree; SW6 very much defined the character for me. This is a tough decision for me, as Andy has always been one of my favorites. I know, given his few appearances, that the fact he's probably my favorite Legionnaire is bizzare; in my young halcyon days, when I was just indescriminatley buying comics, I thought he had a great visual, and picked up LSH v4 #5 and his appearance in Secret Origin. He's always had one of the best dynamics for me: surrounded by gorgeous teammates, hideously scarred, broken home, nigh-suicidal fighting tactics....

Sorry about that. Anyway, if we're banking on a ressurection, I'd say Action. I did like the Reboot Andy a whole lot, but I'd like to see Adventure Era Andrew out from beneath the doomed Shooter conception. Honestly, how much did he really get a chance to shine as a character?


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About James Cullen-- two of the eras Action, Reboot or Threeboot should contain versions of the characters for a vote. Doesn't that make sense?

5YL and SW6 and Superboy's LSH, etc. aren't included. Snippets from Comic-con make it sound as if Perez will be drawing characters from these legions, but I get the impression it'll be in passing. It does give pause, though. I'd definitely pick 5YL Jo and SW6 Ferro, but I just don't think they're going to be in the 'pool'. If there is one.

Picking 'our' LSH from the same characters that DC and Johns will be picking their LSH is sort of the point of this survey. If that's the route that's ahead- we don't know yet. It could well be all versions merged into one, or all versions intact with anyone eligible to appear at any time.

There's a few more characters between Ferro Lad and White Witch. She didn't become a member till later, though she did appear before the next character in the comics as a guest star. That's why we haven't done a Lone Wolf/Timber Wolf vote yet.

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Andrew: Action, easily. I liked the Reboot back-story concept, but Reboot Ferro would have worked if he outgrew his wimp mentality.

I favor seeing KQ1 in the survey, but disagree with your reasoning. I see this as a bit of fun, nothing more. I doubt we will see the "merged Legions" as some suggested, and will continue to doubt unless/until it becomes a reality. I sense a ploy to keep us guessing/misdirected.


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But there aren't two James Cullens to pick from in the three categories! 5YL isn't included.

Of course it's just for fun. But it will give us a picture of what 20 or so fans imagine a LSH from the Legion of *Three* Worlds would look like if those fans chose it.

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DREAM GIRL – 3boot
Re-corporealized, of course. Reboot Nura is a close second and a good substitute if 3boot doesn’t survive. Action Nura is just too old (imo) to get away with the scientific/kung fu Jayne Mansfield shtick –- time for her to retire.

KARATE KID – 3boot
The only version of Val I ever liked. A nice balance of belligerent and philosophical.

PROJECTRA/SENSOR/SENSOR GIRL – reboot
The DnA snake-girl (as long as he doesn’t turn back into a snake). Sorry, the human versions never interested me.

FERRO LAD - none
I don’t want any living FLs on the 3Team. Best scenario here is reboot Ferro sacrifices himself heroically in LO3W and Action FL remains a statue.

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Val: Eventhough I didn't like the Adventure version of him much in Countdown, that's the version with the most exposure, so I vote for his costume.

Princess: Just to be evil, I vote Sneckie!

Ferro: SW6 or Cartoon would be my choices, but since those are not available... reboot, if only because he was the one that "grew up" over that series.


Exnihil: Novelty, if he had a power, the obvious one to me would of course be "The Power of Grayskull"
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A vote for Action Ferro Lad would be one for a resurrected Andy Nolan, theoretically using whatever resurrection technique was used to bring Karate Kid and one of Triplicate Girl's selves back to life.

Reboot would be for Ferro- the fashion-designing, insecure guy from the 21st century, who was beginning to show signs of the far more Ferro Lad-like daredeviltry before that boot's end.

A Threeboot vote would be for an as yet unseen, unwritten character that would be a blank slate.

I'm picking Reboot, with the hope that the legend of Action Ferro Lad remains-- giving the 'newer' character something to live up to.
With that, I rescind my vote for Action Ferro. I'm not generally for a "resurrected" anything but particularly not something that would take away from that most impressive storyline.

Not interested in the reboot version at all and a threeboot is just opportunity for some lamehead to screw it up again or to stretch it out with a bunch of false teasers, a writing technique that just seems cheap and lazy to me.

I vote for no Ferro whatsoever.

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I vote for no Ferro whatsoever.
Seconded. Some characters deaths *mean something* and should stay, for dramatic reasons.

That doesn't mean that there can't be Ferro Lads in the other 51 universes, just that this one Ferro Lad's sacrifice vs. the Sun Eater was a formative event in Legion history, IMO, and I think it's more meaningful if he rests in peace.

I never 'felt' Invisible Lyle's death or the deaths of the various Lu-dupes, so those ressurections wouldn't feel as cheap to me.

Val, I'm on the fence. His death was huge, and bringing him back cheapens it. But, for some asinine reason, they brought him back in Action just to kill him again, cheapening both a far better storyline from before, and their own choice to ressurect him in the first place!


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I can't _STAND_ reboot Ferro. He is like fingernails on the chalkboard to me. If I could, I'd vote negative for the reboot version.

Therefore my vote goes to Action.


Interested in the Post-Zero Hour Reboot Legion? Check out:

The Reboot Legion Timeline

Fan Fiction: The Legion of Super-Heroes v4.1 (continuing the reboot from issue 126!) on LW or here (external)

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But there aren't two James Cullens to pick from in the three categories! 5YL isn't included.
That's an arbitrary determination.

In many cases, we have seen people vote "Action" based on Levitz, 5YL or other considerations. The "Action" choice clearly represents a form of Preboot LSH, whether or not such a character appeared in Action or not.

I guess it boils down to: are we looking ot be sticklers, or have fun? be exclusionary or inclusionary? I suggest the latter; open the gates wide.


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I know I am in the minority here regarding my answer but I actually like the Threeboot Waid characters best. I think the stories were not necessarily the best after issue 11 but love the character design.

Threeboot Nura - was AWESOME in the beginning until they decided to make her incorporeal - BIG mistake

Threeboot Saturn Girl - love her and how she keeps pushing the envelope

Threeboot Jan - HOT HOT HOT

Threeboot Lightning Lad - HOT HOT HOT

Threeboot Phantom Girl - LOVE the costume!

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FERRO LAD: Tough choice here because Andrew's death in the classic Adventure era was so powerful it almost seems not-right to undo it. But that would leave me with the reboot version who I must say is probably one of the reboot members I know least about.

What to do...what to do?

Guess I'll have to go with Action because that's Andrew to me.


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Ferro Lad - cartoon! oh no? okay, Reboot then it is.

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COSMIC BOY: Action- 7, Reboot- 14, 3boot- 2

SATURN GIRL: Action- 16, Reboot- 7, 3boot-3

LIGHTNING LAD: Action- 9, Reboot- 3, 3boot- 9

PHANTOM GIRL: Action- 7, Reboot- 3, 3boot- 13

TRIPLICATE GIRL: Action- 3, Reboot- 16, 3boot- 4

COLOSSAL BOY: Action- 13, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 6

CHAMELEON BOY: Action- 13, Reboot- 4, 3boot- 4

INVISIBLE KID: Action- 3, Reboot- 16, 3boot- 3

BRAINIAC 5: Action-8, Reboot-17, 3boot-0

ULTRA BOY: Action-18, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 3

STAR BOY: Action- 11, Reboot- 4, 3boot- 5

SHRINKING VIOLET: Action-11, Reboot- 7, 3boot-1

SUN BOY: Action-15, Reboot-1, 3boot-3

BOUNCING BOY: Action- 9, Reboot-11, 3boot- 0

MON-EL: Action- 12, Reboot- 5, 3boot- 0

MATTER-EATER LAD: Action- 10, Reboot- 0, 3boot- 9

ELEMENT LAD: Action- 13, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 1

LIGHT LASS: Action- 4, Reboot- 4, 3boot- 8

DREAM GIRL: Action- 6, Reboot- 4, 3boot- 7

KARATE KID: Action- 7, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 5

SENSOR GIRL: Action- 12, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 1

FERRO LAD: Action- 6, Reboot- 4, 3boot-0, None-3

From the first post: "I use that threeboot desgination reluctantly, but I bow to the majority. 'Classic' here means as appearing in the ACTION updated LSH.

Which version of LSH characters would you want to read about most in future stories of the team? Let's also stipulate that the character would be as seen in the most recent appearance of the version chosen."

A separate poll featuring all the various versions including those that don't fall into the Legion of Three Worlds choices (choices made by DC, not by me) would be a great idea! Somebody can run with that...

SHADOW LASS/UMBRA: Action, Reboot, or Threeboot?

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I'm picking Umbra, the reboot Tasmia.

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I really like both Reboot and 3boot....a true incarnation of what planetary champion should be. Action's Shady was so meek....never stood out as a planetary champion to me. I like the Reboot the best.

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Action Shady never struck me as doing anything much but hanging around Mon-El. Reboot Shady I disliked greatly, but that's good; not everyone in the Legion needs to be sunshine and rainbows, and the acerbic Umbra was terse, but still well-meaning.

Reboot.


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Reboot Shady


Exnihil: Novelty, if he had a power, the obvious one to me would of course be "The Power of Grayskull"
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SHADOW LASS: Action


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SHADOW LASS/UMBRA: As someone said above, classic Tas started out well but soon became lost in an orbit around Mon. Both reboot and 3boot Tas are strong, independent & powerful characters though reboot Tas seemed a bit too independent. It always seemed to me that she really didn't belong on a team, being more of a loner so I'll go with 3boot Tasmia.


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