Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Visionaries of Tomorrow Costume Design sketches...up dated..TF added

Thanks again guys!

I'll try to tackle a couple of the latest points brought up-

The midriff count is officially three bare, two partially covered and three completely covered. I think that's a pretty good mix - after all, it is a very popular 31st century fashion
(remember Saturn Girl's midriff is covered in the final version)

I do very much like the idea of variations - and will try to get away with a few, but I think the licensing side of the biz prefer characters to be fairly stable so toys/figures etc don't become outdated too quickly...but thinking about it, I guess if we had limited variations that went back and forth, then the original wouldn't be outdated would it? As long as the character continued to return to it...

Variations???

Then why does everybody get so upset when Rob Liefeld can't draw the same costume from panel to panel???

Speaking of licensing...

Man, oh man...I hope this is a big fat hit so we can get DC Direct Figures of this "new" Legion.

Sun Boy, Dream Girl, Shadow Lass and Star Boy in WAVE 1!

Yeah, I know...cart before the horse and all that. But I can dream can't I?

Taking my time to look at these again I am still blown away by how good these so called doodles are.

I liked the version of Cosmic Boy with the shoulder wings. I thought it was a nice link to the past.

I am pleased Imra got a covered midrift as I think this is more in character. Plus the cape works really well, it flows almost organically from the costume.

I think I prefer Gim from the sketches. This is much more giantish and marks him out from the others.

Shadow Lass looks really good, remind me, do those high boots make it into the finished version?

Mind you, if you guys like these sketch's wait till you see Chameleon and the rest.

thanks for posting these pictures, Barry !!!

it's so to see them again !!! as everyone else has said, your imput here on "LEGION WORLD" is truly amazing, and it's making us all so excited for this new era of the .... Legion of Super Heroes !!!

can't wait to see the rest of the pages

Matthew.

that's great to hear !!! the girls should look different from time, to time !!!

i also wanna see the LEGIONNAIRES in their own clothes, when they are relaxing and not off on a mission .....

Matthew.

i hope we do get to see some variations !!! this would really show, that the LEGIONNAIRES are young adults that like to wear and look different from time, to time !!!

i know, that i would hate to have to wear the same outfit day in, day out !!!

let's see the LEGIONNAIRES having fun with their fashions !!!

from what we've seen so far in the preview, the youth of the 31st century, seem to "follow" the LEGION like a top selling pop/rock band !!!

so wouldn't they have branded type t-shirts etc ???

and like most FOOTBALL teams in the UK [ don't know what the US, ones do ??? ] but here, they change their strips every season or so !!!

just a few ideas

Matthew.

I wish my finished drawings were HALF as good as your doodles Barry! Excellent stuff - can't wait to see the rest!

As for the costumes - you've sold me on Imra's cape! I really like it now! Re: Gim (can you confirm that that is his name by the way Barry?) - I think I've gotta agree with the majority on here and say that I preferred this take on him too. Maybe you can blend the two looks somewhere down the line?

Ayla's is still my favourite by the way - great re-design!

P.S. I know we haven't seen it yet but after seeing his strapped hands I thought it would be great if Karate Kid, rather than wearing boots, had strapped feet as well (i.e. exposing the toes). That would be a cool look IMO and really emphasise the point that his hands and feet are his power! Just a thought.

I really wish Mark had gone with that version of Gim. He's everything a friendly giant should be: he's intimidating but lovable at the same time. Sensational!

I had a few misgivings about the picture of Shady in the TT/L special mostly because I didn't think she was sexy enough but she looks just right in that picture.

And count me in as a convert to the Imra cape.

Does this mean we won't get to see civilian clothes sporting each Legionnaire's personal symbol? That was one thing I liked about the Levitz/Giffen era.

Wow.

Love the idea of "film noir" lighting on Tasmia - she has "femme fatale" written all over her.

Your Cosmic Boy and Light Lass are spot on. You were right to go with the two-piece look for Ayla. Imra looks good too - I like the idea of changing the hairstyle around from time to time. The cape still seems odd to me, but I'm sure I'll adjust.

Gim I'm not sold on yet, but I'm not unsold on him either, if that makes sense.

Thank you for taking the time to post these and provide commentary. It is much appreciated.

Thanks for sharing Barry

I'm also warming to Imra's cape after seeing these sketches. I like the dark black areas on the red part of her costume and hope it's depicted that way in the book.

Shady also looks great but I still miss the previous hairstyle.

I think the final version you came up with for Rokk works the best out of the variations you show in the sketches.

I like how you're thinking of making Gim's features distinct, but didn't you say Jo's going to be a bit more brutish as well? It'll be interesting to compare the two.

Crashing comets! What a delight to wake up to - that Shadow Lass sketch has to be one of my all-time favourites for that character. The chunkier Colossal Boy was very striking and distinctive as well.

I love capes! And we seem to be getting different types of capes now, which is fun - long, short, lighter/more floating and heavier/stiffer material. Capes can serve a lot of different purposes - warmth, protection, fashion, symbolic (like academic robes), utilitarian (superhero capes often have pouches - with velcro I guess!)

A variety of costumes would be a lot of fun. You'd think the licensing guys would be slobbering over this - they could sell multiple costumes for the action figures. But maybe that's too much of a Barbie doll/little girl thing?

Colossal thanks, Barry!

Hi Guys - thanks again!

I answer to one question, you will see the Legionnaires in 'civvies' as the series gets going!

I've sent another batch of sketches to Nightcrawler - so with a bit of luck there'll be new ones to see later today!

...and here they are already!

The group shot featuring some costumes that were updated - some that stayed - is an exercise I do just to get an idea how all the characters look together, to be sure they look different enough as individuals but still look as if they 'belong' together.

The design sheet with the male characters on features mostly unused designs - other than Lightning Lad and Ultra Boy I think. Star Boy is close to the finished one, but I decided the boots weren't quite right. The Invisible Kid design is NOTHING like the final one!

The Shrinking Violet sheet shows just how much is 'up for grabs' at the early design stage - even her features haven't been settled on in these sketches.

Hope you enjoy them!

Whoa! I *much* prefer the robust Colossal Boy from your original sketches! WOW! What a great look!

Thanks for sharing these!

Figures. Garth gets longer hair again and I lose mine.

Love all the sketches Barry. And I agree with Lash. I prefer the bulkier Colossal Boy.

Amazing.

I must admit I was NOT thrilled to have Barry on art for the new Legion, and especially not after my first glimpses of the costumes.

I'm 100% reveresed after seeing these sketches.

These costumes are great - in several cases better than the final version, for my money. I really like several versions of Vi's look.

Barry's Legion costumes beautifully marry sleek futuristic style with enough layers and details to seem real.

The only costumes I'm still unhappy with are B5 and Element Lad. Maybe Cham. I'm otherwise pretty thrilled - and still hoping to see more of Barry's original costumes in the book.

I'm impressed by what a difference inking makes - I think there's a lively spark in Barry's sketches that, for me, gets a little squelched by the inking process.

Notice the stars on CB's gloves!

I think Barry's done a fantastic job of trying to pick the most iconic images of the Legionnaire's past look and incorporate them in his new designs. You can see the Cockrum influence in the Violet sketches.

I liked the Vi sketch with the Cockrum like designs on the arms. The others are nice too -- interesting to see that one sketch has Vi with guns(??). Everything really was up in the air...

Wow, seeing these sketches is really cool! And seeing the notes and thoughts that went into the designs is winning me over even on the costumes I didn't originally like.

A slightly sinister, wirey Brainy? Hmm, I can go for that...

I don't have any real preferences about costumes, but I do enjoy seeing all the variations you've come up with Barry. I'm easy to please.

Weighing in on Colossal Boy/Micro Lad - I love the big giant look. He's definitely not from a human species. Finally Colossal Boy is going to shine.

What I'm digging the most about all of these is how DIFFERENT they all look from each other. That's one of the first things that drew me to the Legion---this large group of heroes, each with a sometimes complex costume. I went through reams of paper when I was a kid drawing The Legion--and sometimes had to keep a comic nearby for reference. The uniform look of the last 10 years or so had its merits, too; I just like this "individuality" so much more.

yeah

can't wait to see that !!!

and thanks for posting more of your design pages, Barry !!!

there's still a couple more to go, if i remember correctly !!??

Matthew.