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I'm going the TPB route for all non-DCU books now but I think I'll definitely check this one out whenever it goes on sale.

The art is great (obviously), but the story is just so Slooooooow. You could have had the same content in issue #5 in about half the page count and then moved the plot more. As it is, this is just drawn out, and not even character building drawn out as we don't know that much more about the gang than we did in the second issue.

It's got great potential, but is on very thin ice with me.

I haven't read 5 yet (I'm going to the CBS today) but I found 4 to be very informative when I read it last night-- I thought the whole undersoul/oversoul thing was very cool and a nifty, simple explanation for zombies, ghosts, vampires etc. We also learned just what those men in white were! Lots of info and plot-moving-forward and stuff revealed in issue 4.

Well done.

And the art? I don't need to go there do I? Allred remains my favorite and Laura's colors compliment him perfectly as always.

Because if they don't, he goes all Punch & Judy/Rokk and Ayla on her...

JUST. KIDDING.

I also found the explanation of the oversoul/undersoul and how it creates ghosts, poltergeists, etc. to be very groovy too! A really original explanation for the various forms of the undead.

AWWWWWW! How cute was the origin of everyone's favorite were-terrier???

Nice issue with an unexpected (by me) ending! I'm glad we are going to be delving into the cast more!

It looks like Spot's father may be joining the ever expanding cast. He'll be a good ally in his present form.

One thing they've done a good job doing is make me totally fascinated with finding out what the story is with Dixie, the owner of the diner. I'm dying to know!

RE: Issue #7

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Gwen accidently eating her mother's brains is a totally original and gross twist. I love this book!</span></span>

Whoops. My spoiler was a wrong assumption. Oh well, it is still an interesting development.

Actually I think it's Spot's grandpa.

Look, I don't want wall-to-wall action or anything here, but can SOMETHING happen already? We're on issue number nine and the glacier pace continues.

If it's going to be a book about characters and relationships, than flesh out the characters. If it's going to be a Scooby-Doo wacky adventures of the monster gang, then get to it. But I really wish they'd do something because I'm quickly losing my patience.

I'm still enjoying it but I get what you're saying. I read # 8-9 last night...

I'm just enjoying the slow ride because the pictures are so nice to look at.

But I believe when it comes to a head, it's going to be very ugly.

yeah ... it's quite slow .. i think it should've started sprinting after she discovered the whole 'under' soul 'over' soul bit ....

but i did love the break of the were-terriers origin so much.

It's a lovely book but if Alred left I think I would follow ... his art is entrancing!

I did like the hottie vampire hunter on hottie vampire action though (a couple issues ago .. i think i missed 7) <i wrote episodes and then changed it to issues ... It does seem like TV>

Oh I absolutely agree, if Allred left my desire to read this probably would too-- I would likely give the new artist one issue to hook me.

I understand your complaint too, Dave. But like Lash, I’m just enjoying soaking up all that gorgeous Allred artwork, and so long as it’s there, I don’t mind the pace (it actually paces a bit like Madman). Like you guys say though, without Allred, I’d probably give it an issue and then I’d be gone. That’s the big sell for me here.

I caught up on the recent issues and I’m enjoying Gwen’s date. She really is a likeable lead!

The D&D scene was funny and I think anyone who played D&D would get a kick out of it.

I really like Roberson’s puns and in-jokes which he puts in every issue. They have a certain charm to them, and while sometimes that can get annoying, I think he does them well.

All in all, this isn’t my favorite series but I’m enjoying it quite a bit still.

ORIGINAL POST ELSEWHERE BY: Dave Hackett

The Red Legionnaire


posted September 08, 2011 07:49 AM
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iZombie #17 - I spent the first half of this series complaining that it was taking too long for things to happen, and now everything's happening at once and its a bit of a hot mess. This book continues to perplex me, partly because it just keeps changing its gameplan and I can't get on board like I really, really want to.

The plot now revolves around a zombie invasion, the cause of which could be several or none of the characters we've seen so far. Gwen and her "Scooby Gang" run into the Dead Presidents (really amped up reflections of themselves) as well as the Gravediggers. As much as the two factions want to kill each other (and in the Gravediggers case, Gwen), they need to unite to fend off the zombies.

Meanwhile, Horatio has found out Gwen's undead and seems to choose his loyalty to the Gravediggers over her, but he's obviosuly conflicted.

Meanwhile, Scott's Grandpa (the Chimp) and his friends make their way to the coffee house where the owner seems to have some experience with (and hate for) zombies.

Meanwhile, Galatia lose the "Vessel" and is confronted by the Brain in a jar, Kovsky, who's got Claire captive and wants a body.

Meanwhile, Ellie finds the Vessel, who's awake and tries to help him out.

Meanwhile, the Vampire girls are up to... something.

Meanwhile, Gwen stumbles across Amon and suddenly remembers she knew him before she died and he's involved in her death.


Got all that?


I like idea that this coming "Convergence" event is mirrored in the plots themselves all amping up and seeming to tie together, but Roberson's gone form 0 to 120 here and puts a lot of balls in the air (writing this review has actually been really helpful in sorting it all out). I'm hoping for a big payoff, but this series has been spotty with those thus far. When it is good, though its generally very good.

One thing that's indisputable: Allred's art is gorgeous.

A quick review of IZOMBIE #17

Much like Lash and DH, I have been wondering about the recent plots that have been taking their time to get going, But #16 and #17 have been chock full of excitement.

I wasn't into the second stories with the Presidents when they seemed more exciting than Gwen's adventures. But now that they're all together ... It's fantastic.

So Issue #17

Zombies everywhere. Gwen's hottie moster hunter Horatio knows she's a vampire. The Dead Presidents, a government sanctioned group of monsters, are at odds with the (i assume government sanctioned) moster hunters. Gwen and her scooby gang are caught in the middle of all this.

Things I loved:

Shotgun toting Dixie the waitress.
Kennedy the looks like she lost an arm or two intelligent zombie.
Nazi brain in a jar.
Ellie the ghosts personal naked boy zombie!!
Amon is also very cute but, it seems he and Gwen have some very dramatic prior relationship.


Allred's art ... the details in the background are just fantastic. Well thought over and embellished.

For example:
the monster hunter guy in the turban.
Random firefighter guy chopping up zombies.

The most amazing thing about the art, by far for me, and Allred usually throws it down each month... is the map ... as Gwen and Spot are fleeing across the city ... there are pop outs of them in various places against the backdrop of a map of town. It's cinematic and retro cartoony at the same time. Loved it.

Yeah I read # 17 last night... it kicks ASS.

I ZOMBIE is firing on all cylinders right now!!

Also loved Dixie with shotgun!

LOVE how Allred makes everyone so cute!!

Dead Presidents RULE!!

And I hope Ellie and her Boy Zombie hit it right off! J'adorablesauce!

This book seems tailor made for you!

brains in jars and boy zombies !!

Isn't the "boy Zombie" the "Vessel" that Galetia's been working on? I suspect he'll be more of a Frankenstein type than a zombie.

ahhh that makes great sense .... ty

I have to admit I thought of FEMbrain in that scene!!

The artwork of Mike Allred continues to make I, Zombie a pleasure to read month in and month out. The plot is way out there and I can hardly remember who and where all these characters are at times, but seeing Allred draw all these funky monsters and characters is still enough to keep me buying.

In #17 the crowded plotline continues to get more crowded as just about every type of monster under the sun is represented, with two whole groups going at it (the Dead Presidents versus the monster hunter dudes). But as the issue pulls away from that and focuses on Gwen (where the writing usually shines), we get a nice revelation at issue’s end that upped my curiosity about the main character and the Mummy known as Amon.

But of course its that artwork that I can’t get enough of. Even seeing a character among the monster-hunters with absolutely no lines dressed like Captain Ahab, with a magnificent Indian beard and a sword, was just pleasing on the eye. I mean, the guy has zero lines spoken and I still thought “awesome.”

As we’ve said in this thread—without Allred, the series doesn’t work. But he is here, and so it does work…and I’m enjoying the heck out of it.

iZombie #19 - Wait, what just happened here? After a stellar issue #17, I was a little annoyed about the break for an inventory issue/guest fill-in with #18, but the story was decent and I figured it would give Allred the chance to ramp up for a kick-ass conclusion, and we get.... this?

We're a week later suddenly. The zombie problems been cleared up, the town's in lock-down and everyone else goes back into a holding pattern (with a little progression for Scott, which I liked). After all the plots were finally coming to a head in #17, this issue just deflated everything. Roberson's pacing continues to baffle and frustrate me.

I like this concept and I want to like this series more, but the execution continues to let me down.