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Adventure Comics #517 - SPOILERS
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Preview is available at Newsarama .

Looks like Paul is still jumping around the timeline a bit. Which works for me as a fan, but it might be a bit too confusing for new readers.

Maybe he should pick a point in the Legion's past and tell stories from there?

This series also would do better with rotating former and upcoming Legion artists.

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I wish he would move forward a bit and include some more members.


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Once again, it's the three founders. <Sigh>


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It's nice to see the them get adult supervision. One of the things that bugs me about Silver Age comics is the fact that these kids have no adults around, when parents are becoming increasingly protective these days (which I think was what the Threeboot was all about).


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This looks like a fun story, but can we please have a moratorium on stories involving the three founders?


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Uhhh ... I didn't get a real sense of the story from just those 5 pages so I will wait until I've read the full issue before I pass judgement.

Those 5 pages were good though. It seems like a nice, likeable story so far ... from the standpoint of us "new readers" getting to know these characters.

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Can DC please hire a better cartoonist? Kevin has some years of experience before drawing anything as top as Legion... Art is stiff, awkward, Saturn Girl looks like a bimbo taken from some Image Comics in the 90s... Just terrible.

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I'm still not a fan of Kevin Sharpe's art, but I will admit I do see some improvement.
The story looks like fun & despite what others say, I don't mind seeing the founders being featured.

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I think the artwork's pretty decent, BUT Saturn Girl is SO NOT a boob window kinda girl and Cosmic Boy's gloves bug me. Also, what's with the flying belts? DIdn't Paul say he was retroactively doing away with them in favor of flight rings?

I too am bored with the founders. Show me Triplicate Girl, Gim, and Lyle instead, please.


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I like how the Flight Belts kind of magically go away when they land. Poof!

Saturn Girl's workout togs have a little Saturn symbol on the chest? That's kind of bizarre. Even if I had a monogram on my preppy shirt, I wouldn't put one on my jockstrap...

I didn't notice the new artist, and probably would have thought it was the same guy if everyone wasn't talking up how much better the art was, but I think I liked the cleaner lines from previous issues. The faces in the approaching shots were a little cartoony, like something I'd see in an Archie comic.

He did draw a nice solid-looking Saturn Girl. The girls looked *very* skinny from what I remember of the previous art (esp at the baseball game, etc.). I guess for every artistic choice I like, there's be another one I don't. Fickle, is me.

The concept that the Legion started out being all deputized and received training to follow SP procedures and stuff *totally* works for me. That is the kind of stuff that these flashbacks can excel at, making sense of stuff that got glossed over back in the day, and has become increasingly jarring (the SP allows a dozen superpowered teenagers to run around blasting off city-vaporizing energy discharges without so much as a *permit?*).

It's not the sort of pesky little detail that I think warrants an actual story, so much as a background character like an SP Liaison attached full-time to the team and an occasional line-drop about someone having to re-qualify for some sort of emergency procedure, or a new member needing to certify with the Liaison before being cleared for active duty, but it's still something relevant.


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what's with the flying belts? DIdn't Paul say he was retroactively doing away with them in favor of flight rings?.
Well Brande wore one in L3W when he was murdered, so they are are still established.

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I too am bored with the founders. Show me Triplicate Girl, Gim, and Lyle instead, please.


Agree that Lyle needs to shine more, but will always enjoy Garth and Imra in action together--Cos not so much.

Woohoo! Zaryan the Conqueror! Hopefully Paul will definitively establish him as hailing from Brok and not Khundia...


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That SP Sarge could be Gigi Cusimano.

The three founders again - but I liked the little insight into some of what's driving Saturn Girl, trying to keep up with the boys.

Also the idea that Brande bought their acceptance/status is reasonable; there could be some degree of resistance from the SPs, akin to the threeboot's view that the Legionnaires are just kids meddling in police business. They have to prove themselves.


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i dont get the kids thing...wasn't the fact that at age 14 was considered the age of majority at the time and they weren't children as in minors...thought i saw that established in secrets of the legion of super-heroes 1


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I don't understand that. Childhood has been extended since the end of WWI with the creation of teenagers. Why would Earth return to the definition of childhood ending at puberty?


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While I've always liked Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad (separately or together), the three founders together have never been that terribly exciting to me.

I liked Saturn Girl's workout clothes though. They look much better than the rags she's wearing in the Legion book.

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This series also would do better with rotating former and upcoming Legion artists.
Great idea ... I'd love to see some older, lesser seen artists back ...


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Can DC please hire a better cartoonist? Kevin has some years of experience before drawing anything as top as Legion... Art is stiff, awkward, Saturn Girl looks like a bimbo taken from some Image Comics in the 90s... Just terrible.
i totally agree with you! and on top of what you say, i add that as far as i believe kevin sharpe's art also suffers a very bad storytelling. this book is drawn so badly it's a shame.

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Without ruining it for those that haven't read it yet, the ending pretty much contradicts Superman: Secret Origins #2 and I am glad for the changes made there. Not nearly as thrilled with the rest of the story... oh well.

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Interesting that there aren't more comments on this issue yet. This is going to be controversial, I imagine. My initial reaction is pretty negative. I'll withhold further comment while waiting for other's responses.


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Paul knows how to shake things up.

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I just saw some of the clips over at s_d.

Ouch. My eyes. My brain.

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Paul knows how to shake things up.
There's a difference between causing short-term publicity and being bad for the book long-term. Major retcons like these are bad for the book long-term, even if they do first get some cheap publicity by having everyone talk about how Shvaugn Erin is a guy with a sex change or how Imra mind-wiped Cosmic Boy after sleeping with him. (And the mind-wipe is worse than the sex.)

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I won't get the comic until tomorrow, so I'm not terribly clear when the event occured.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> If it happened post-marriage, then holy crap, does that bug me. If it happened well before that, then it's, IMO, kinda meaningless.

I don't recall purity balls being a big deal on either Titan or Winath, so the thought that stuff happened before rings went on and vows were made doesn't faze me. </span></span>


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<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">The mind-wipe is majorly creeping me out. The events leading up to it, not so much.</span></span>


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