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Re: Legion Lost #1 (Preview and Spoilers)
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Preview looks great but wouldn't Dawnstar be the Legionnaire least likely to ralph in the bushes because of time travel sickness... I mean her power revolves around super speed maneuvering in outer space after all... unless she has caught the pathogen... and I'm fine with that
Here's fun idea: what if it turns out she puked because of morning sickness? That'd be dramatic enough, but then there'd be the additional drama of who the father is!


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Has anyone been over to the DC boards recently?

Apparently, "Legion of Super-Heroes" and "Legion Lost" are sub-categories of "Young Justice".

I have about as much interest in Young Justice as in Old Justice .


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Originally posted by Tom Tanner Issue #One:
Has anyone been over to the DC boards recently?

Apparently, "Legion of Super-Heroes" and "Legion Lost" are sub-categories of "Young Justice".

I have about as much interest in Young Justice as in Old Justice .
I think you're reading too much into it. The organized the boards by categories. It don't mean "Young Justice" in terms of the team, but is the category for most of the titles with young heroes. Blue Beetle, Teen Titans, Hawk & Dove and Static Shock are there. (Superboy is with the Superman-related comics and Nightwing is with Batman-related ones.) It seems like a pretty logical way of organizing things to me.

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The Legionnaires are at least in their early to mid 20's by now; the early members may even be a bit older. But with Hawk and Dove there too, I agree it's a fair categorization.

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[b] Preview looks great but wouldn't Dawnstar be the Legionnaire least likely to ralph in the bushes because of time travel sickness... I mean her power revolves around super speed maneuvering in outer space after all... unless she has caught the pathogen... and I'm fine with that
Here's fun idea: what if it turns out she puked because of morning sickness? That'd be dramatic enough, but then there'd be the additional drama of who the father is![/b]
Great idea! Although I'd nominate a non-legionnaire as the father....


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Would love to see how Wildfire reacts, and how Dawnstar deals with HIS reaction.

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Actually, I favour Jhodan from Kol. At some point, she went back and resumed their relationship. And I'd like to assume that she didn't know (or wasn't certain) she was pregnant, because why would she volunteer for a dangerous mission?


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Originally posted by Tom Tanner Issue #One:
[b] Has anyone been over to the DC boards recently?

Apparently, "Legion of Super-Heroes" and "Legion Lost" are sub-categories of "Young Justice".

I have about as much interest in Young Justice as in Old Justice .
I think you're reading too much into it. The organized the boards by categories. It don't mean "Young Justice" in terms of the team, but is the category for most of the titles with young heroes. Blue Beetle, Teen Titans, Hawk & Dove and Static Shock are there. (Superboy is with the Superman-related comics and Nightwing is with Batman-related ones.) It seems like a pretty logical way of organizing things to me.[/b]
Well, if your interpretation is correct, then what can be 'read into it' is that the Legion has once again been removed from the 'Superman Family'. Good news for some of us, bad for others.

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Disappointing first issue. Spoilers ho!

Gates is one of my favourite characters, and not only does he get short shrift and hardly any dialogue, he gets obliterated by the end of the issue (and not even an explosion that leaves no body, with T-Wolf and Dawnstar confirming their "organics" were spread all over the place. Delightful.)

It thought the action was choppy and the dialogue a little awkward. If I hadn't read the earlier text on-line, there would be little characterisation for the villain at all. I'm all for leaving some reveals until later in the story, but I think too much was left up in the air or as a mystery when it really didn't need to be.

I *did* like how Tyroc and Wildfire were handled, especially their interactions with each other, and it wasn't as bad as some of the other books this week. I just expected more.

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[b] Do you have someone in mind?
Actually, I favour Jhodan from Kol. At some point, she went back and resumed their relationship. And I'd like to assume that she didn't know (or wasn't certain) she was pregnant, because why would she volunteer for a dangerous mission?[/b]
Yes, the first time a gal doesn't realize what's happening.
Jhodan would be the one I'd prefer, too.
But then, why has she been with Drake?

That better not be right about Gates.


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To add to the drama, maybe Dawnstar could have done that after she took her "Grand Tour of the Galaxy", and also after Wildfire took on the more humanoid look to try to be with her.

Jhodan sounds like a great choice to be the father!

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Got it... read it... liked it. Reminded me of DNA era of storytelling. Dialogue was handled well I thought. Not happy with the overuse of T Wolf's tracking by scent abilities as it makes Dawnstar's tracking ability somewhat redundant and she needs all the power distinction she can get. Although I did like how it allowed for the panel where they look at each other and quietly acknowledge the same thing re: Gates and Yera's fate. Which is open-ended enough that they could still be alive... hope so.


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I don't know if this was the writer's idea or if an edict was passed down, but who ever was responsible for the idea should be fired. Seriously. If you can not think of anything better to do with 2 of the lead characters in the FIRST issue of a series other than killing them off (or even faking their deaths), then you do not belong in the industry. The person is just a hack trying for 'shock value' over actual content. DC can take this series and stick it! I will not be buying anymore issues, nor will I buy the primary Legion series, the mini-series or the cross-over special. I am through with this unimaginative, boring, c**p that they want me to think of as THE Legion.

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I don't know if this was the writer's idea or if an edict was passed down, but who ever was responsible for the idea should be fired. Seriously. If you can not think of anything better to do with 2 of the lead characters in the FIRST issue of a series other than killing them off (or even faking their deaths), then you do not belong in the industry. The person is just a hack trying for 'shock value' over actual content. DC can take this series and stick it! I will not be buying anymore issues, nor will I buy the primary Legion series, the mini-series or the cross-over special. I am through with this unimaginative, boring, c**p that they want me to think of as THE Legion.
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Was not expecting too much from this issue as the premise did not really appeal to me and it largely featured Legionnaires that I do not like or do not care for one way or another (except for Brin) but on the whole was pleasantly surprised.

I thought the story set up their situation quite well and the art was excellent (Yera, for one, has never looked so good and Gates reminded me of a Skeksis (sp?) from the Dark Crystal). It was not perfect certainly with the villain a bit of a cypher still (I have not read the text pages yet) and the 'death' quite unnecessary and unlikely to stick but the good far outweighed the bad and I will certainly be around for the next issue (then again it is the Legion so it could have been 22 pages of Tyroc on the toilet and I still would have been around for the next issue)

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I liked it, but wow, it was really grim. Stranded, two dead Legionaires, etc. I can't wait until next issue!

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I liked it well enough, but I was hoping for a bit more. Most of what happened of significance (Time Bubble destroyed, the team getting stranded, two members "dying") I could see coming before the book was even released. I thought the art was fun, which is a little funky in retrospect as the book did get pretty serious and will continue to be so it looks like. It wasn't bad, I suppose I'm just impatient for more answers. It's a bit too convenient how the flight rings are totally inoperable and I'm sure we'll learn why that is in upcoming issues.

As for the deaths, <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">it looked like Chameleon Girl got cut in half by Gates' teleport disc ... or am I seeing things? Ouch. They've definitely been shown to have 'sharp' edges like when he severed Ra's hand. Still, when that happens to a Durlan I'm not necessarily scared. Even if Brin and Dawny really did smell and sense her remains everywhere, a larger part of her could probably reform or pull itself together eventually. Likewise, I'm hoping Gates and his malfunctioning powers simply teleported him and Yera somewhere far away and they'll be back soon enough.

Call me jaded, but until I see the bodies I'm not really buying the deaths. Especially in a comic book.</span></span>

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The first issue had both its good moments and its bad ones, I thought. Overall though, I thought it was a prett good opener and even if I wasn't a mega-Legion fan, I'd be back for #2.

The obvious bad first: if these are really 'deaths' and they stick that will be a travesty. But like others have said, I'm not buying it. Still too open-ended for my tastes. I did think, however, Dawny & Brin confirming it was a gruesome yet sad moment that worked.

Less obvious was that some of the pacing and dialogue were choppy but it might be that Niceiza and Woods are getting used to one another. I think both creators are tremendously talented based on what I've seen from them before, so hopefully they start clicking soon--I think we'll be in for a treat.

Beyond that bad, however, there was quite a lot of good! Fabian took the time to make sure Tyroc, Dawny, Brin, Tellus and Wildfire each had their own distinct voice. More important than that, they all were shown as competent, and caring in their own way. (Yera and Gates also to a lesser extent).

What I really liked was the science-aspect of it all, and Fabian's way of explaining how the 31st century tools and tricks were all malfuntioning causing all kinds of problems. The flight rings, transuits, time bubble--each time one of them had a problem, there was a consequence, such as Dawny's powers causing her to be overwhelmed by Earth's pollution because the transuit wasn't filtering it out. That was some sharp thinking on Fabian's part.

This wasn't a perfect issue but it was more positive than negative for me. I'd say I enjoyed it more than Justice League #1, though not by too much.

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I liked it. I'm not a fan of Legion time travel stories; or at least the constant trips to the 20th...21st century. (Remember the 90's T-wolf series) This was a ominous fast paced story of stranded Legionaries. And while that may not be the most original plot, it's the details that make this a fun read. The reasons for Dawnstar's illness and unique interpretation of her powers..Tyroc uses some creativity himself.. I liked him being able to "quiet" someone...nice touch. And yes Yera has never looked better...I hope we see more of her.

The new uniform designs work for the most part. I can't stand Wildfire's new look but perhaps this is a new containment suit made from Imortus (or whatever his name was from the recent LSV arc) and is indestructible?? I have no idea why Tyroc needs goggles but it's a cool visual.

My only gripe is its set in the 21st century..I mean couldn't they just have been stranded on some world with ice crystals that shorted out the rings or something?

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I'm on the fence regarding the first issue - not feeling much in the way of either positive or negative vibes. Frenzied is the word that comes to mind to describe the issue. That seems to be the effect that Nicieza is going for. The team is lost. They don't yet have their bearings. Neither does the reader. Is this going to develop into an interesting story? We'll have to wait until the dust settles to tell.

I'm just as torn on the art. Some panels were very nice. Others were pretty horrendous. It didn't seem to flow well, and to be honest, Woods has done much better work.

On the plus side - I really liked the cover logo. Pretty sharp.


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Seriously. If you can not think of anything better to do with 2 of the lead characters in the FIRST issue of a series other than killing them off (or even faking their deaths), then you do not belong in the industry. The person is just a hack trying for 'shock value' over actual content.
There are several of the Number Ones, such as Batwing, Legion Lost, Mister Terrific, and Static Shock, that are ending with horrific things happening to the main character(s). It's gut-punch writing that may or may not draw readers back for more.


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That sums it up.

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say.....I am not familiar with Fabian's writing style and his work at Marvel....have he ever brought anyone back alive after killing the character? Just wondering about his death tracks...unlike Keith Giffen's tracks on killing Karate Kid off each time he had the chance.

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