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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650250 08/26/05 06:12 AM
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[b]i choose RT'S back-side.

uh what is everybody looking at?
Why is everybody looking? Nothing here to see people!

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Roll Tide, baby!!!
Hook'em Horns![/b]
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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650251 08/26/05 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid:
Reboot, some thoughts, before things really get under way:

- I would actually like to work with you for ways to further make the Security Office available to outside opinions. And I do mean you specifically. Perhaps, and I guess its a big perhaps, this convention can end our long feud?
Now that sounds interesting...

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- But I will not budge on anything already stated. It has a history, and a good one, and I feel it works. The LMB Leader will never have any power, and I mean none whatsoever, over the Security Office.
Oh well, so much for compromise and working together laugh

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Perhaps a third party entity, run by yourself, could have some type of 'audit' status, that allows you full access to all files, which you can then take to the 'former LMB leader' council? Or something like that.
Hmmmm...a former Leaders Council. I kinda like that idea.

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Real Life Disclaimer - And jeepers folks! Taking that away from me would be like taking SHAKES from Semi, Cafe Cramer from FC or Kid Prime's Room from Kid Prime. It just wouldn't be fair. I put a lot of time and effort in there over the last two years smile
Is that what young people are calling what you do in there these days? wink


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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650252 08/26/05 07:27 AM
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Well, we've had some new arrivals, so here's the updated roll call:

Delegates in attendance, thus far:

Kid Prime, representing Cybertron
Thora, representing Taltar
Outdoor Miner, representing Outdoor Miner
Rockhopper Lad, representing Houston
Disaster Boy, representing the future
Fat Cramer, representing Planet Cafe'
Phoebe, Selene, and Luna, all representing Avalon and the Third Race
Varalent, representing the Variable Realm
Cobalt Kid, representing *snicker* all that's good in the world
Bevis aka Lucien Lad, now representing that special connection
RTVU2, representing!
Joeboy, representing the class of 05
Tamper Lad, representing the mad genius caste
Eryk Davis Ester, representing huffiness
Crujectra, representing Psyonia
Quislet Etc., representing the Lullaby League
Abin Quank, representing Abin's Official Legion World Janitorial Service
Semi Transparent Fellow, representing the small business owners of Legion World
Lad Boy, seems to be representing debauchery
Reboot, not representing Cobalt Kid
Caliente, representing the hopeless fangirls
Doctor Mayavale, representing Alexander Hamilton
ActorLad, representing candy pants

Schedule of events for this weekend:

Tonight, wild partying!
There will be an ice cream social tomorrow afternoon for all delegates as well.
On Sunday, there will be a formal dinner welcoming all the delegates, followed by another wild party with karaoke.

And then on Monday, we get down to business! laugh

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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650253 08/26/05 07:29 AM
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And to think i wont be a part of it...somebody fill me in as the details come to hand?

Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650254 08/26/05 07:38 AM
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My constituents have demanded I take a hard line against the intrusion of regulation and the inherent paternalism of your so-called ethics into the evil genius creative process.

There will be no compromise or even negotiations on any points of until our minimum demands our satisfied.

Ethical review boards are to be selected amongst a pool of peers to be determined by the person subject to review

A minimum of one third of all votes in any election system

A veto over any and all future constitutional change in perpetuity

Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650255 08/26/05 07:46 AM
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Originally posted by Tamper Lad:
My constituents have demanded I take a hard line against the intrusion of regulation and the inherent paternalism of your so-called ethics into the evil genius creative process.

There will be no compromise or even negotiations on any points of until our minimum demands our satisfied.

Ethical review boards are to be selected amongst a pool of peers to be determined by the person subject to review

A minimum of one third of all votes in any election system

A veto over any and all future constitutional change in perpetuity
Yeah, and I bet you want fries with that too.


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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650256 08/26/05 08:05 AM
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You dare mock the legitimate aspirations of the Evil Genius Caste, Janitor?

You shall pay for your impudence.

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#650257 08/26/05 08:11 AM
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Ah, Tamper, perhaps, just maybe, the aspirations of the Evil Genius Caste are infringing on the others just a bit.

The Penguin Colonies of Planet Houston respectfully ask for you to scale back your request.

Thank you.


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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650258 08/26/05 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Tamper Lad:
You dare mock the legitimate aspirations of the Evil Genius Caste, Janitor?

You shall pay for your impudence.
Sentient, Please allow me to introduce myself. I am the Space Ranger, assistant Chief of Security here on Legion World and I have strong views about the appropriateness of threat making.

However when you are dealing with Abin...


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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650259 08/26/05 08:23 AM
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Bah!!! Threat making is an integral part of the negotiating process. Tell your boss that I am prepared to support provisions abolishing the Office of Security, if my constituents legitimate aspirations are not realized.

Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650260 08/26/05 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by Tamper Lad:
Bah!!! Threat making is an integral part of the negotiating process. Tell your boss that I am prepared to support provisions abolishing the Office of Security, if my constituents legitimate aspirations are not realized.
Sentient, I feel compelled to warn you that Cobalt will have no problem supporting provisions which result in the abolishment of Tamper Lad, should you pursue that course of action.


Truth and Justice shall Prevail!
(That was NOT a Threat, it was a PROMISE!)


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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650261 08/26/05 08:40 AM
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Don't mess with the Space Ranger.

Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650262 08/26/05 09:09 AM
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Alright! With Space Ranger here now, we can count on some clear, hard decision making.

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#650263 08/26/05 09:13 AM
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Cobalt, sorry didn't see you standing there.

<Snaps to Attention>

Sir, I will report in formally as soon as the Empress and I finish our Undercovers Assignment.


Truth and Justice shall Prevail!
(Heigh-Ho, Heigh-Ho It's Off To Work We Go!)


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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650264 08/26/05 09:16 AM
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- But I will not budge on anything already stated. It has a history, and a good one, and I feel it works. The LMB Leader will never have any power, and I mean none whatsoever, over the Security Office.
Oh well, so much for compromise and working together laugh

Yup. And I want to note that I have absolutely no aspirations or desires to take over the Security Office. I'm busy enough with my own business without Cobalt's too. But I want a SO I can [b]trust
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Perhaps a third party entity, run by yourself, could have some type of 'audit' status, that allows you full access to all files, which you can then take to the 'former LMB leader' council? Or something like that.
[qb]Hmmmm...a former Leaders Council. I kinda like that idea. [/b]
Remember though - I'm not a former leader any more tongue


My views are my own and do not reflect those of everyone else... and I wouldn't have it any other way.

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Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650265 08/26/05 09:38 AM
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Perhaps a third party entity, run by yourself, could have some type of 'audit' status, that allows you full access to all files, which you can then take to the 'former LMB leader' council? Or something like that.
Hmmmm...a former Leaders Council. I kinda like that idea.
We oppose any such notion, it smacks of "hereditary right" and is inherently discriminatory against new members.

Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650266 08/26/05 09:45 AM
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Mrrrooooow!!!! Meep!!! Meeeeeoooooowwww!!!***


***Greetings! I, Queen Connie, am here to represent the felines of Legion World. We, of course, recognize that humans don't understand the truth of their existence. Which is that felines are in charge of everything of importance. We allow you to play these games and make believe you have things to decide because it amuses us to see all the silliness you can come up with.

Carry on! Entertain us!

Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650267 08/26/05 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Tamper Lad:
My constituents have demanded I take a hard line against the intrusion of regulation and the inherent paternalism of your so-called ethics into the evil genius creative process.

There will be no compromise or even negotiations on any points of until our minimum demands our satisfied.

Ethical review boards are to be selected amongst a pool of peers to be determined by the person subject to review

A minimum of one third of all votes in any election system

A veto over any and all future constitutional change in perpetuity
Mroooooooeeeeeeeeewwwww!!!!! ****

***See! Here's a perfect example of that silliness which I just mentioned.

Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650268 08/26/05 09:51 AM
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Reboot and Vee - Let me make myself as clear as possible: I'm willing to compromise and I want to work with all of you. Especially Reboot. Please, please, feel free to give me your opinions on what can be added that can make the SO easier to trust.

But given the past Dark Stu Saga and other things, I firmly believe the current LMB leader should have NO power over the SO whatsoever--it's an independent entity. But I'm open to discussions about other commitees, etc.

Here's an idea to consider:

I will Chair a 'Security Committee' which meets four times a year to discuss various issues, the main one being if the SO has crossed the line in any way. Also on this committee is Space Ranger and Matlock, the two other highest ranking members. In addition to them would be at least three LMBers, one or two being former LMB leaders or deputy leaders. I will also state that I firmly want Reboot on this committee, because his opinions are vastly different than mine, and the two of us have made no bones about that publicly--as much as we find each other disagreeable, I believe there has to be a certain amount of mutual respect in being able to stay in the game without hindering all this time. Vee, someone like you, whose been around for the duration of LW (almost) and has been a past leader would be great on this committee. Further, someone who has not been leader, like Luna, Vu or whoever, would be good, as they bring fresh eyes to the table.

What are your thoughts on that? I hope you can see by this statement, my utter willingness to compromise.

I do not want to even consider budging on losing my role as Chief of Security for life though, I'll be honest and up front about that. Is this your concern Reboot? If we add in a clause making that title answerable to the committee, won't that negate any negative feelings about that issue?

The time for controversy, I agree, is long past. Now is the time for a discussion to help 'build'.

Re: LMB Constitutional Convention
#650269 08/26/05 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by Space Ranger:
Cobalt, sorry didn't see you standing there.

<Snaps to Attention>

Sir, I will report in formally as soon as the Empress and I finish our Undercovers Assignment.


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Thank you Ranger. I'm glad you're here--in the past, you've proven to be impeccable as a strait shooter who doesn't beat around the bush in fear of offending someone. Not to mention, you have very distinct views of right and wrong, and I feel this will entice some good debate.

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#650270 08/26/05 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid:
Reboot and Vee - Let me make myself as clear as possible: I'm willing to compromise and I want to work with all of you. Especially Reboot. Please, please, feel free to give me your opinions on what can be added that can make the SO easier to trust.

But given the past Dark Stu Saga and other things, I firmly believe the current LMB leader should have [b]NO
power over the SO whatsoever--it's an independent entity. But I'm open to discussions about other commitees, etc.

Here's an idea to consider:

I will Chair a 'Security Committee' which meets four times a year to discuss various issues, the main one being if the SO has crossed the line in any way. Also on this committee is Space Ranger and Matlock, the two other highest ranking members. In addition to them would be at least three LMBers, one or two being former LMB leaders or deputy leaders. I will also state that I firmly want Reboot on this committee, because his opinions are vastly different than mine, and the two of us have made no bones about that publicly--as much as we find each other disagreeable, I believe there has to be a certain amount of mutual respect in being able to stay in the game without hindering all this time. Vee, someone like you, whose been around for the duration of LW (almost) and has been a past leader would be great on this committee. Further, someone who has not been leader, like Luna, Vu or whoever, would be good, as they bring fresh eyes to the table.

What are your thoughts on that? I hope you can see by this statement, my utter willingness to compromise.

I do not want to even consider budging on losing my role as Chief of Security for life though, I'll be honest and up front about that. Is this your concern Reboot? If we add in a clause making that title answerable to the committee, won't that negate any negative feelings about that issue?

The time for controversy, I agree, is long past. Now is the time for a discussion to help 'build'.[/b]
Meeeeeeeoooooowwww!!!!! ****


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Does anyone have a bowl of fresh, cool cream? That would be just lovely to sip as I enjoy the show.

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(It's reassuring that the felines here will make sure we human don't screw things up too badly...)

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Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ****

He's such a nice boy

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#650273 08/26/05 10:18 AM
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Candy pants?

*is adorably befuddled*
*coos* That's my boy!!

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Caliente played Perry Mason? Gosh... they're doing AMAZING things with theatrical makeup these days!
*snerk* Agreed! I know I'm amazed... wink

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Awww, a kitty!!

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