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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #881795 12/17/15 12:49 PM
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While we wait for thoth lad, I just remembered another thing I wish to discuss with all of you. I expect this Idol will be over soon; maybe even before 2016 depending on how fast the next few rounds go. As usual, there will be month in between games to give people room to breath, but I might start the thread early because it might be even harder than this one to compile all the villains.

I need to know what you would want for the next Idol:

Flash Villains (I might just call it Flashes Rogues Idol because that is how they are best known)

or Spider-Villain Idol (Considered by some critics to have the best villains roster in the industry)


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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #881835 12/17/15 06:43 PM
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Personally, I would prefer a Flash Rogues Idol.

(But that's just because I have no attachment to any Marvel characters.)

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I am more invested in heroes so I find Hero Idols more exciting. But between the two options I prefer Flash villains, because I prefer DC to Marvel

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Emily Sivana #881847 12/18/15 04:19 AM
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I'm with the Flash villains too!

Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #881872 12/18/15 08:31 AM
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I'd prefer Flash villains too, as I've read very, very few Spider books in my time. I'd probably know most of the villains from various other sources though.

With the Cavalier back, I was tempted to go for Nocturna. But I think she's reached roughly where she should be in the scheme of things. SO, I'm going with ...

Two Face. The Scarecrow was a very, very close second.And thanks for the list Emily. That made coming up with one much easier and fun to think about.



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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #881884 12/18/15 01:11 PM
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Catwoman (Golden Age)
Cavalier
Clayface II (Hagen)
Clayface III (Payne)
Deadshot
Harley Quinn
Man-Bat
Lady Shiva
Poison Ivy (Silver Age)
Talia Al Ghul
Two-Face


There is a total of eleven characters, so I have to go through the list, remove all of these, and use a Random Generator to select a 12th character.

Random Says: Bane (Modern Age)

It is a strangely fitting choice for a random generator. After all, he starred in the latest Batman movie.

The Final List (Hopefully)

Bane (Modern Age)
Catwoman (Golden Age)
Cavalier
Clayface II (Hagen)
Clayface III (Payne)
Deadshot
Harley Quinn
Lady Shiva
Man-Bat
Poison Ivy (Silver Age)
Talia Al Ghul
Two-Face

The next round starts now. You have until Monday at 6:00 P.M Central Time to submit your votes. If we end up in the middle of a round at Christmas Eve, I will postpone counting until the 26th or 27th. I know we have an international crowd here, so let me know if Boxing Day is important to you and we will wait until the 27th.

Point scale this round:
Number= Points

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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #881885 12/18/15 01:16 PM
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Flash Villains will be fun, but I am going to need a lot of help. I have most of the Modern Age versions memorized thanks to Morrison and Johns, but I will need extensive help with Silver and Golden Age villains. I will need help Silver Age because I haven't read many comics with Barry. I may need help Golden Age due to lack of information online.

My votes:

Bane (Modern Age) 18
Catwoman (Golden Age) 18
Cavalier 2
Clayface II (Hagen) 12
Clayface III (Payne) 10
Deadshot 18
Harley Quinn 20
Lady Shiva 10
Man-Bat 2
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 18
Talia Al Ghul 14
Two-Face 6

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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #881943 12/19/15 06:02 AM
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Emily, I went with Two Face and not Nocturna (although it was nice seeing her back on the list)


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Emily Sivana #881952 12/19/15 06:49 AM
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I'll edit the posts above me to reflect that.


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Ta.

Bane (Modern Age) 2
Catwoman (Golden Age) 20
Cavalier 2
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) 20
Clayface III (Payne) 2
Deadshot 20
Harley Quinn 2
Lady Shiva 2
Man-Bat 20
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 15
Talia Al Ghul 20
Two Face 20


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Emily Sivana #882010 12/19/15 06:30 PM
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Nocturna was another close choice for me, but I ultimately left her out as she is not as influential as my other shortlist choices.

Bane (Modern Age) 2
Catwoman (Golden Age) 20
Cavalier 10
Clayface II (Hagen) 10
Clayface III (Payne) 10
Deadshot 10
Harley Quinn 10
Lady Shiva 10
Man-Bat 2
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 20
Talia Al Ghul 20
Two-Face 10

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Bane (Modern Age) - 2
Catwoman (Golden Age) - 20
Cavalier - 18
Clayface II (Hagen) - 20
Clayface III (Payne) - 18
Deadshot - 12
Harley Quinn - 4
Lady Shiva - 6
Man-Bat - 16
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) - 16
Talia Al Ghul - 8
Two-Face - 14

Re: Bat-Villain Idol
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Bane (Modern Age)...2
Catwoman (Golden Age)...2
Cavalier...20
Clayface II (Hagen)...10
Clayface III (Payne)...10
Deadshot...2
Harley Quinn...2
Lady Shiva...2
Man-Bat...20
Poison Ivy (Silver Age)...2
Talia Al Ghul...2
Two-Face...10

Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #882053 12/20/15 05:17 AM
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Bane (Modern Age) 2
Catwoman (Golden Age) 18
Cavalier 10
Clayface II (Hagen) 12
Clayface III (Payne) 6
Deadshot 20
Harley Quinn 16
Lady Shiva 20
Man-Bat 6
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 12
Talia Al Ghul 18
Two-Face 14

Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #882239 12/21/15 04:57 PM
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I am going to extend voting for 24 hours a it is not usual for Dave not to vote. I'll post the results tomorrow. Next round will probably last until December 26. If you know you will be unavailable until a certain date, please state so in this thread or send me a PM. I will try to accommodate you.


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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #882250 12/22/15 01:09 AM
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Looks like Poison Ivy did the best of the Wildcards so far.


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Emily Sivana #882251 12/22/15 01:45 AM
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Sorry, busy weekend.

Bane (Modern Age) 2
Catwoman (Golden Age) 2
Cavalier 2
Clayface II (Hagen) 2
Clayface III (Payne) 20
Deadshot 20
Harley Quinn 2
Lady Shiva 2
Man-Bat 20
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 2
Talia Al Ghul 2
Two-Face 2

Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #882319 12/22/15 01:12 PM
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The results

Deadshot 102 100%
Catwoman (Golden Age) 100 98%
Clayface II (Hagen) 86 86%
Man-Bat 86 86%
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 85 83%

Talia Al Ghul 84 82%
Clayface III (Payne) 76 76%
Two-Face (Golden Age) 76 76%


Eliminated this round:

Cavalier 64 64%
Harley Quinn 56 56% <-- I tried, Harley, I truly tried.

Lady Shiva 52 52%
Bane 30 30% <-- To me he exemplified the zeitgeist of the time the last Batman movie came out, so I am saddened to see him leave again. I admire relevance in writing.


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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #882323 12/22/15 01:15 PM
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We are keeping the 2 scale for the next round, as it seems to be working the best out of the scales I have used thus far.

Clayface II (Hagen)
Clayface III(Payne)
Catwoman (Golden Age)
Deadshot
Man-Bat
Poison Ivy (Silver Age)
Talia Al Ghul
Two-Face (Golden Age)

This round will end on December 26th 2015 at midnight. If you are going to be unable to post by that time, please contact me as soon as possible.


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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #882324 12/22/15 01:17 PM
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I am aware I put Catwoman after the Clayfaces, I'll fix the order when I post the next round.

Clayface II (Hagen) 2
Clayface III(Payne) 2
Catwoman (Golden Age) 20
Deadshot 18
Man-Bat 2
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 2
Talia Al Ghul 18
Two-Face (Golden Age) 12

If anyone has any knowledge about the Flash Villains, please feel free to send me a PM as I will be privately working on that list soon.

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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #882325 12/22/15 01:17 PM
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I thought the Cavalier was going to stick around a little longer.

You really did try for Harley. If it's any consolation, I'll look out for her in an older book where she's not emulating Deadpool.

Did Lady Shiva pop up in a Titans comic? That's the only place I may know her from.

Bane I mostly know from the Kelley Jones covers. I had stopped reading it by that point. He just looked like a steroid abusing thug, really. There were already Bat-villains fulfilling that role.


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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #882347 12/22/15 01:39 PM
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When I think of Bane, I immediately think of the last Batman movie in 2012, where he was more of a symbol for anarchy (in the sense of no government/hierarchy, not chaos like the Joker) than a thug. If they haven't gone that direction in the Batman comics, they really should.


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Re: Bat-Villain Idol
Emily Sivana #882400 12/23/15 01:50 AM
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I've only the covers to go with really. I don't think I read any of them. Wasn't it Bane who had some sort of drug that he injected to make himself part of the Russian Olympic Team super strong? I also link it with yet another occasion in which every bat villain is on the loose, which is more than a little lazy.



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Clayface II (Hagen) 2
Clayface III(Payne) 20
Catwoman (Golden Age) 2
Deadshot 20
Man-Bat 20
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 2
Talia Al Ghul 2
Two-Face (Golden Age) 2

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Clayface II (Hagen) 12
Clayface III(Payne) 2
Catwoman (Golden Age) 20
Deadshot 18
Man-Bat 4
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 10
Talia Al Ghul 16
Two-Face (Golden Age) 14

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