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What issue number is the series up to? Are the back issues hard to find? Naturally, I'll check this out when I get to the comic shop again, but any more info would be great.

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I know it's up to issue 12, maybe 13... I'll have to check.

And the first issues have already been given the TPB treatment.

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Ok, so this thread didn't ask what we THINK about the new Titans book, just what happened. But for what it's worth, here's my two cents:

Sounds like I'm in the minority here, but TT is the one Johns book I just don't enjoy. I find myself buying it every month and I don't really know why. I guess I keep expecting the quality to match the work on Flash and the recent JSA.

The first few stories were long and drawn out and didn't really have a satisfying conclusion. I really want to see more of Starfire, Cyborg, and the old Raven, but I keep getting the Young Justice kids and Raven seems to have had her personality altered in order to fit with the younger group.

The art is good, not great. The characters look like real people and aren't cartoony (about the only qualification I have about art in comics) so I have no complaints about that.

I'm not sure why I'm not clicking with this series. I'll probably drop it as soon as the Legion is gone.

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You know... few things bug me more than the notion that by de-aging adult characters to teens, that makes them suddenly fit in with teens. They should still have the minds/personalities of adults, even if their bodies are youthened.

De-aging characters to toddlers, however, is of course accompanied by a vast reduction in their mental powers.

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Originally posted by the boy with SuperPowers:
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Originally posted by rtvu2:
I agree with Cobie about John's embracing continuity. That's why I can't wait to see the new Hawk and Dove and have no reservations about him doing GL:Rebirth.

is doing the new "H&D" then ??? and are they gonna appear in "TT" first ???

Matthew.

Well Dove is alive from the pages of the JSA and she left to go find the new Hawk somewhere. So H&D well be in the JSA or the Titans.
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Originally posted by deantitan:
What issue number is the series up to?

TEEN TITANS #16 is on sale Sept. 22nd. It directly leads into the TEEN TITANS/LEGION crossover special due out Sept. 29th.

TEEN TITANS #15 will be out this Thursday. It's part two to the Beast Boy saga, in which we learn his origin.

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I'll betcha Johns will be saving Dove and the new Hawk for when he uses the Titans L.A. cast!

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Well Dove is alive from the pages of the JSA and she left to go find the new Hawk somewhere. So H&D well be in the JSA or the Titans.

This after it was established that the Hank Hall Hawk & the Dawn Granger Dove would be the last of their respective lines, since the Lords of Chaos & Order who empowered them died & bestowed their remaining power on them...

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Thanks for the responses to my questions. I'll be going to the comic shop soon and see what I can dig up...

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Originally posted by Crulith:
I wonder if he'll use any of these folks?

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He's using Beast Boy, so I guess that answers your question. I don't anticipate Gnarrk, Golden Eagle, or Dove since they're all dead. Harlequin was retroactively removed, Mal and Karen are retired, and Roy, Dick, and Wally are on other teams. Hawk and Troia appear to be dead, but we'll see if that sticks. Also, Garth is fairly occupied with a wife and daughter (assuming they're back together). So...we've got that one definite.

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Originally posted by rdstr2:
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Originally posted by the boy with SuperPowers:
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Originally posted by rtvu2:
I agree with Cobie about John's embracing continuity. That's why I can't wait to see the new Hawk and Dove and have no reservations about him doing GL:Rebirth.

is doing the new "H&D" then ??? and are they gonna appear in "TT" first ???

Matthew.

Well Dove is alive from the pages of the JSA and she left to go find the new Hawk somewhere. So H&D well be in the JSA or the Titans.
There's irony in the above, right? Johns _embraces_ continuity but sends Dawn off to find a new Hawk? If the H&D series told us anything it was that Hank and Dawn were the very last H&D because the beings who powered them were dead.

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As Johns does embrace continuity, let's figure he has found a way to bring back a new Hawk. There's other ways to get powers. Maybe the new Hawk will be some joe who assists an injured alien trapped under a fallen tree, or had a scientist father that experimented on him. Or maybe those wacky Lords of Order & Chaos are back!

[ September 06, 2004, 07:14 AM: Message edited by: MLLASH ]

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I'll give Johns the benefit of the doubt until I see what he has planned. After all, I think what they did with Hawkman was excellent, and probably one of the most honest attempts at pleasing all fans that I've ever seen. And recently working Daniel/Dream into JSA to connect him with both Hector and Lyta, as well as Sand and the crime-fighter Sandman legacy was a very nice touch.

I mean, he's had Cave Carson show up in a respectable way! I'm pretty sure he doesn't use characters unless he knows their histories, so he'll have something in mind for Hawk and Dove.

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Didn't Dove say something about Order and Chaos just being energy? You can't destroy energy, it just takes a new or different form. There is the loophole.

The H&D series from the 90's was one of my favorites. What ever happened the the artist on the series?

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Hank, Don and Dawn were chosen by a specific Lord of Chaos & Lord of Order, who were together against the wishes of their fellows. Even if the energy was still around, it wouldn't go to a new host, it would just dissipate, since the sentience that granted it is gone, whereas in JSA #51, Dawn was automatically assuming, despite what she knows, that there'd be a new Hawk.

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