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It use to be that before you could use a character defined as "Superman Family" or "Batman Family, etc, you had to run it past the editor in charge of that group to get permission and it had to be integrated into the main story (or at least not be at odds with it!)
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Someone please explain to me how we have a relaunch (and a pretty good one, IMHO) of Teen Titans including a TV series etc. in which two of the main characters (Kon & Tim) continue to appear as if nothing has happened. In the meantime, Kon is off in the 31st Century in the Legion and Tim has "retired" as Robin in his own title and been replaced by someone else (a female!)
Huh? How do you expalin that? Are they going to eliminate Kon & Tim from TT? This makes no sense to me. HELP!!!!!
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From: Paragon City on patrol | Registered: Jul 2003
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Apparently girl-Robin will take Tim's place.
As for Kon, the whole reasoning they're giving for keeping him around in Legion is that they can't return him to his exact moment of departure yet (which I suspect is still in the DCU's future). They'll probably mindwipe him or something too like they did with Clark, so we won't even notice when we reach the point he was taken from in the present day.
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But don't you find that a bit contrived? Hardly seems like a good idea to mess with their new Teen title this way.
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From: Paragon City on patrol | Registered: Jul 2003
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Impluse hadn't been "cute sweet ditzy" for a while now (with the possible exception of the "set a new record for the number of characters I can mischaracterise"isms of Crapuation Day and the first few TT issues. He was first regressed, then changed out of all recognition.). Certainly not since OWAW (go on - read YJ 55 and tell me the Impulse there was "cute sweet ditzy"). And if you said "Kid Flash" in public you'd be arrested.
And let's just say we couldn't disagree more and leave it there. And Hulk-Kon looks ridiculous.
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There are lots of things I really hate about this series... but for some reason I can't help but enjoy every issue (well, except for that JLA one) and since they all end on such a cliffhanger I'm always left looking forward to the next one!
Most of my problems revolve around how Johns has been writing Starfire and the Young Justice characters but I'm really happy with the plots we've been given so far. And I LOVE the art, including Superboy's new look.
And any thoughts I had of dropping this book went completely out the window when I found out who he's bringing back in year 2...
BUMBLEBEE!!!
Mal and Karen are my 2 favourite Titans ever so any book that has them in is definitely on my pull-list!
From: Australia | Registered: Dec 2003
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After taking an issue or two to warm up, I have to say that I really like Teen Titans right now. It's the best Titans book in ages, and I think John's has done a tremendous job taking care of the YJ characters after they were yanked away from PAD.
Graduation Day was so horrible, that it almost left me not willing to like this series, but there is just too much to like. Raven and Jericho, great characterization of Deathstroke and Rose moving along as a character. Robin well written, as well as Cyborg and Gar (although I wish he'd be called 'Changeling' again--I mean, c'mon...), and Cassie has been very well done too.
I really like Bart as Kid Flash too, I have to agree with Lash, Impulse was just getting to be too boring for me, the 'coolness' effect wore off to where I didn't even care what happened to him anymore. As Kid Flash, with his new emphasis on reading and gaining knowledge, I have a renewed interest in the character.
I only hope John's continues to warm up to the characters and gives Kory some more time, but I have a feeling that is gonna happen anyway. The art is great too.
In other words, I reccomend this title to everyone who hasn't given it a try yet, or was too disgusted with Graduation Day to pick up the early issues.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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TT has become one of the issues I MOST look forward to receiving. I hated Kon prior to this, had no interest in Tim as Robin, didn't like Cassie since she couldn't replace Donna in my book, and thought that Bart was about as stupid and annoying as any comic book character I had ever come across.
Don't know why I picked it up when it was launched. Maybe because of the hype, maybe nostalgia for my other favorite youth group from long ago (The Fab Five) but I've really enjoyed the stories from the start. Surpisingly I've even found something to like about each of these characters that I loathed before.
That's why I'm annoyed that they're messing with Kon & Tim. It will likely impact TT and its chemistry.
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From: Paragon City on patrol | Registered: Jul 2003
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I'm buying the Teen Titans book, and really like it! Johns has a definite love of the characters, and has progressed the YJ kids well. I like the new and improved Bart/Kid Flash!
That said, I hate that Jericho is now insane and the whole "Kon has DNA from both Superman and Lex Luthor". Wha?????? I thought it was already established that former Cadmus Project Director (Westfield?) had contributed his DNA when they could match Superman's... "Somebody's got some 'splainin' to do!"
I absolutely hated Graduation Day! Talk about senseless!! And I associate Outsiders with the bad taste in my mouth I got from Grad Day. There is no other reason for Nightwing and Arsenal to be in Outsiders instead of TT except they are more "dark and brooding" since Donna died. I'm following/buying Outsiders but I miss the old version (BATO). I liked them all, but I have no reason to care about any of the new characters in Outsiders: Grace, Thunder (when the hell did Jeff have a kid?), the psuedo-Metamorpho (what a stupid idea that was!), and Indigo. So what? I've followed Jade worse places (I actually bought the first issue of the Bloodpack mini because she was in it...but it also had a Legion tie in: a magazine cover on a coffee table had the Legion logo).
IMHO, Teen Titans is great stuff! Changeling and Cyborg are written perfectly, and I hope to see their roles grow as they mentor the newer kids. And the art is freakin' fantastic!
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From: Santa Ana, CA | Registered: Jul 2003
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I like Young Just... err, I mean... Teen Titans well enough, but I do feel that some of Geoff's ideas for the characters, while interesting enough, don't necessarily follow logically from where they've been.
"Kid Flash", for instance, did not continue on from where Bart ended up at the end of his series. He had grown up alot during the period where he thought Carol was dead, and then he traveled into the future, and the time when Max "died". Yet at the beginning of this series, you wouldn't have known that he had ever had that growth.
And then there's Kon. While throwing in the Luthor angle makes his new origin interesting, I think that Donna Troy showed that tweaking people's origins for no good reason isn't always wise. Besides, it's a little too "Young and the Restless" for me, although I do kinda smirk when I think of Kon as being the love child of Superman and Lex Luthor
I don't care for what's been happening with Jericho. We've just had one too many good guys gone bad lately for my tastes. If they were going to go to all of the trouble of bringing Joey back in some form, I would have preferred that he had regained his heroism somehow.
Changeling has disappointed me a little in that he seems to have regressed, not only in character but in age as well. I was a little surprised at this, since it was Geoff that helped Gar grow up in his mini-series. Now he's being written as he was in the early days of the New Teen Titans. It's not a HUGE deal to me, but I'm a little disappointed about that.
And although it's not fair to pre-judge a character I haven't seen yet, I have no interest in this new Robin-ette. I have liked Tim's run as Robin, and am very disappointed that he's retiring. And I like Spoiler well enough, but I like her as Spoiler... not as the "Girl Wonder".
Oh well... I still like the series better than some of the titles I collect, and it's much better than Outsiders, which I plan to drop at any time now, so I guess it's not all bad
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From: Penthouse atop Levitz Hall, LMBP Plaza, Embassy Row, Legion World | Registered: Jul 2003
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I agree about Robin-ette. What the hell is DC thinking?
The third Robin is arguably the best Bat-move that DC made during the entire 90's. Jason Todd was not well liked, and was killed for it. But this new Robin was cool- he was smart and a great detective, and had to work to become Robin. He didn't have Dick's acrobat training, and recognized that he could never match Dick as Robin, so concentrated on his own strengths. Tim Drake is the character that made Robin cool and fun again, which is why he got his own title. And he is a likable kid, and was throughout all of Chuck Dixon's run, even though the later issues weren't that good.
Robin-ette? Not only is that annoying for Robin readers, it's annoying for Titans readers. And Batman readers. And others. Ick!
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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The new Robin is definitely going to be Stephanie/The Spoiler?
I like her.
And I have a feeling it won't be too terribly long before Tim's back in action.
Cru, I don't remember Impulse's personal growth from his own series reflected much in YJ, so Johns gets a buy there. I will agree about the seeming regression of Garfield. Maybe being back with his old crew is bringing out his old personality.
And I ***KNEW*** it wouldn't be long before Johns brought in Bumblebee, Mal and probably ALL of TITANS WEST. YES YES YES YES YES!!!! Now find some way to revive Lilith!
That's why I couldn't really *love* Wolfman's run... he hated too many characters I loved (ike Duela Dent).
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