Legion World   
my profile | directory login | search | faq | calendar | games | clips | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Legion World » LEGION CLUBHOUSE » The Legion of Super-Heroes » Vandal Savage and the LSH (Page 1)

 - Hyperpath: Email this page to someone!   This topic comprises 2 pages: 1  2   
Author Topic: Vandal Savage and the LSH
thinbalion
Substitute
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for thinbalion   Email thinbalion         Edit/Delete Post     
Just wondering since he is immortal and all that, whether he ever clashed with the Legion, heck it would only make sense?

--------------------
Currently getting caught up on my Legion history by reading the Post-Zero Hour Legion.

From: Arlington, VA | Registered: Dec 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Lightning Lad
Founder
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Lightning Lad   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post     
Would have made just as much sense as Ra's al Ghul.
From: Utah | Registered: Jul 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Blockade Boy
Legionnaire!
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Blockade Boy   Email Blockade Boy         Edit/Delete Post     
NO!

Huh?

NO!

Where'd that come from?

NO!


Okay already, we heard you. sheesh. He only asked a`question.

From: East Toledo | Registered: Jul 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Omni Craig
Advisor
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Omni Craig   Email Omni Craig         Edit/Delete Post     
I actually would have preferred to see Vandal Savage than Ra's al Ghul, if you ask me.

--------------------
Craig C.

- Time travel stories are told in chronillogical order.

From: Santa Ana, CA | Registered: Jul 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Blockade Boy
Legionnaire!
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Blockade Boy   Email Blockade Boy         Edit/Delete Post     
One vote for "neither."

I prefer to think that even though both are immortal, it's most logical that they would have gone on to more important things like sitting quietly in some 30th century park murmering to themselves and not bothering anyone.

From: East Toledo | Registered: Jul 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Tamper Lad
With the Scarlett Faction
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Tamper Lad   Email Tamper Lad         Edit/Delete Post     
I've never gotten immortal villains either. What kind of loser can live 10,000 lifetimes and not accomplish what he wants to.

Must be some kind of mental defective.

From: Canada | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Caliente
Honoring the Primary Color Gang
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Caliente   Email Caliente         Edit/Delete Post     
Well, I'd be mentally defective if I had to live for some inanely long time, too. I mean, c'mon, who wants that? You know you'd go nuts, too...

--------------------
Abin: You know what to do with a Cali sandwich? No but neither do Cobie and CJ!
CJ: Yeah, we do. She's smiling, isn't she?

Context... who needs it?

From: Sunny Cali-- er, Planet Earth? | Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
thinbalion
Substitute
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for thinbalion   Email thinbalion         Edit/Delete Post     
Hmm... I was only wondering if it had ever happened... now as to whether it would be a good idea, yeah that's a whole other question...

Also these so-called imortals, are a good way of connecting the present and the future DCU. The Great Darkness Saga is one example of good execution.

In any event, this only popped in my head thanks to JSA, all thats going on there.

[ March 24, 2007, 01:54 PM: Message edited by: thinbalion ]

--------------------
Currently getting caught up on my Legion history by reading the Post-Zero Hour Legion.

From: Arlington, VA | Registered: Dec 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Quislet, Esq
Great Calamity Kittens!
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Quislet, Esq   Email Quislet, Esq         Edit/Delete Post     
As for happening, I don't think it has.

And I am one opposed to the idea. For one thing, it ruins any present day story featuring that villian because we now "know" that he has to survive to Legion time.

I also don't think you need a "connection" between the present DCU and the Legion, other than historical. And I think having too much of a connection just limits the Legion and the present day DCU.

--------------------
Five billion years from now the Sun will go nova and obliterate the Earth. Don't sweat the small stuff!

From: Boston | Registered: Aug 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
thinbalion
Substitute
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for thinbalion   Email thinbalion         Edit/Delete Post     
True and I agree with cases like Darkseid, but with say Vandal Savage, who is supposed to be immortal (i.e. he doesn't die period), it would be feasible and would not destroy stories that have not been told already.

That said, I don't actually agree with him ever playing a role in Legion stories. He's not the kind of villain that would have good interplay with them. That's not to be said it couldn't be done, just that I'd have to be conviced of its quality.

--------------------
Currently getting caught up on my Legion history by reading the Post-Zero Hour Legion.

From: Arlington, VA | Registered: Dec 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Quislet, Esq
Great Calamity Kittens!
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Quislet, Esq   Email Quislet, Esq         Edit/Delete Post     
quote:
Originally posted by thinbalion:
True and I agree with cases like Darkseid, but with say Vandal Savage, who is supposed to be immortal (i.e. he doesn't die period), it would be feasible and would not destroy stories that have not been told already.

Well yes, it would. We would know that none of his schemes play out if he is there in the Legion's time just like he always is. (yeah I know that the good guys always win, but the suspense would be ruined)

That's my main reason why Star Wars episodes 1-3 were not so good. We all knew what would happen. We all knew from the start of episode one that Anakin becomes Darth Vader and we are just waiting for it rather than get into the story.

--------------------
Five billion years from now the Sun will go nova and obliterate the Earth. Don't sweat the small stuff!

From: Boston | Registered: Aug 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Nightcrawler
Founder
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Nightcrawler   Author's Homepage   Email Nightcrawler         Edit/Delete Post     
I disagree about Vandal Savage. He's shown "dying" all of the time. I don't think having him show up again in a 30th century story is any worse than having him show up later in Green Lantern or the JSA.

It doesn't cheapen or ruin a story about him now. It just reinforces the claim that he's immortal. Which to me makes the stories in the 20th and 21st centuries all the more interesting.

From: San Diego, CA | Registered: Jul 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Bicycle Repair Man
Deputy
Offline

Icon 3 posted      Profile for Bicycle Repair Man   Email Bicycle Repair Man         Edit/Delete Post     
quote:
Originally posted by Caliente:
Well, I'd be mentally defective if I had to live for some inanely long time, too. I mean, c'mon, who wants that? You know you'd go nuts, too...

Someone tried using this approach to writing Vandal Savage in the Wally West Flash series in the late 1980s; I think the writer was Mike Baron.

--------------------
"Gee, Brainy, what do you want to do tonight?"
"The same thing we do every night, Bouncing Boy: try to take over the United Planets!!"
They're B.B. and The Brain ...

From: Monty Python's Flying Circus | Registered: Aug 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Kent Shakespeare
Spectacled Legion
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Kent Shakespeare           Edit/Delete Post     
That sounds right, BRM.

I vew Vandal Savage as the ultimate loser - in 50,000 years or whatever, he's accomplished Nada.

I once brainstormed up an idea that he was the Time Trapper, having continued his losing streak straight through the end of time.

From: Vancouver, BC, Canada | Registered: Dec 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Blue Battler
Honorary
Offline

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Blue Battler   Email Blue Battler         Edit/Delete Post     
"Nothing" is kind of an overstatement, IMO.

Supposedly, he helped sink Atlantis, and ruled either directly or behind the scenes some of history's mightiest nations.

Check out his Wiki Bio

Given that the guy started out as just your typical dumb caveman type, he's gone pretty far in life.
[Big Grin]

And I have to say the whole "It ruins the suspense if we know a character isn't going to die" idea has never worked for me just because I've read comics long enough to know that ANYONE can come back from the dead if it suits the whims of an editor or writer.

Heck, I'd be tickled pink to see a 1000 year old Superman show up in a knock down dragout fight the Legion's having with Darkseid, for instance. [Big Grin]

Registered: Aug 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
  This topic comprises 2 pages: 1  2   

   Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic | Subscribe To Topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | Legion World

Legion of Super-Heroes & all related proper names & images are ™ & © material of DC Comics, Inc. & are used herein without its permission.
This site is intended solely to celebrate & publicize these characters & their creators.
No commercial benefit, nor any use beyond the “fair use” review & commentary provisions of United States copyright law, is either intended or implied.
Posts made on this message board must not be reproduced without the author's consent.

Powered by ubbcentral.com
UBB.classic™ 6.7.2

ShanghallaThe Legion World Star