Still, USM is way better than any other current Spider-title.
Tell you the truth (and I'm shocked), I love Peter with Kitty in the Ultimate U. It just seems so cool. And its my favorite MU heroine with my favorite MU hero.
Longtime LWers will have heard me lament about my love of Gwen Stacy (the 616 MU version) despite my actually being born almost a decade after her death. She's my favorite love interest of Peter's to read. But I do like Mary Jane ever since that Defalco/Frenz origin issue way back in the #260's.
I like Ultimate MJ and feel she will eventually be with Peter and want that to happen. But he needs experiences with other girls/women at this point, and Kitty is perfect.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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I like Cobie's train of thought here. Mary Jane is an extremely likeable and sympathetic character in USM. I'd love to see those two hook up long term... but not right now.
I really liked the relationship with Gwen too, until she died. That was the one thing about the series I haven't liked.
Since I only collect the trades (and don't go for spoilers either), I just recently stumbled across the Black Cat rejection. I still smile over that one.
I don't know much about the Kitty thing (if I've read it, I've already forgotten about it, but I have a feeling she's happening in recent books and the trades haven't caught up yet), but it sounds intriguing.
I just think that ending up with Mary Jane right now would stagnate the book's drama. Quite frankly I'd like to see MJ move on at this point.
Maybe they could write a Gwen-clone into the story? On second thought... I'd like to see the writer do some work and just come up something/someone new and make me care about her and hooking up with Peter.
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quote:Originally posted by minesurfer: Maybe they could write a Gwen-clone into the story? On second thought... I'd like to see the writer do some work and just come up something/someone new and make me care about her and hooking up with Peter.
Wasn't a Gwen-clone already thought of, years back?
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I don't remember the mention of any clones in the Ultimate Spider-man series.
I just said the Gwenn/clone thing as a tongue in cheek reference to the old Spider-man Clone Saga that was not so well received by the public. As far as Gwen being a clone in the original Marvel Universe... I have no knowledge of that. But the only Spider-man book I follow is Ultimate.
Maybe Cobie can answer that one with more authority than I can...
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You're right Minesurfer in that there are no Gwen clones in the Ultimate MU.
As for the original universe:
- Original Gwen Clone circa Spidey #144-151, which I reviewed here.
- Return and revealed to be product of High Evolutionary/Carrion plague thing which is too complicated to be explained right now (jeepers--that's a whole lot of 'splainin for a simple throwaway question!) - circa Spectaculur Spidey late 1980's.
- Clone Saga in Mid 90's reveals she was really a clone and still alive. Still around to this day in fact IIRC. If that's true, we probably won't see her for some time (even if she did die, I distincly remember there was an opening for her return--no writer outside of Conway, it seems, could ever actually kill her).
I actually like the Gwen clone . That reminds me--I need to get back to posting my reviews in that thread! After all, I consider myself the greatest Spider-Man fan in all of history, even more than Stan Lee himself! I post those reviews completely from memory, so the 1980's, which are not as memorable towards the end (really early-mid 1990's) will all that much harder, since I refuse to use any research other than my memory .
As for Ultimate Spider-Man right now on the stands, it is definately the best choice of all Spider-books that anyone could pick up. No one is missing much right now if they're just getting USM.
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They shoulda killed MJ (or turned her into Venom) and had Gwen as Peter's girl this time around.
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They definately should have kept Gwen around longer.
An MJ as Venom story-arc in USM actually kinda seems like a fun idea...
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Anyone read Ultimate Spider-Man #91? Take a look at the cover.
It would seem that Kitty Pryde wore a new costume when she’s with Spider-Man to protect Spidey’s Peter Parker identity when he’s with Kitty Pryde, so they can really date outside of their costumes like normal people.
Will we see more of this Ultimate Spider-Girl?
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I hope so! I'm loving the Kitty/Peter relationship right now and think this was cool. It'll all probably come to a head and get rough by #100 (considering the drama-centric feel of the series) but I'm enjoying it right now!
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good thing that Kitty Pryde and Peter Parker have not met their 616 counterparts....Kitty Pryde 616 would be flabbergasted to discover that the Ultimates Colossus is like into guys...Imagination runs wild if they all actually met each other - Colossus, Kitty Pryde, Peter Parker both of 616 and Ultimates.
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