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LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES #14

Written by PAUL LEVITZ
Art by SCOTT KOLINS
Cover by STEVE LIGHTLE
On sale NOVEMBER 21 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T

• Element Lad tries to take Chemical Kid under his wing as they go after the mercenaries that injured Cosmic Boy, but both Legionnaires soon find themselves in over their heads.

• Meanwhile, Brainiac 5 tries to discover what caused their teammate, Comet Queen, to betray the Legion to the Dominators.

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LEGION LOST #14

Written by TOM DeFALCO
Art by PETE WOODS
Cover by TYLER KIRKHAM and BATT
On sale NOVEMBER 14 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T

• Guest-starring Superboy and the Ravagers!

• When Earth is threatened by a genocidal horde, the Lost Legionnaires must form an uneasy alliance with their enemy: Harvest!
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Jeepers, Jan! I know it's annoying being called onto a Legion mission immediately after the drag show, but you could at least make a better attempt to remove your eye shadow than that!
 
Posted by the Hermit on :
 
Thank you DC for helping me make a decision. I am dropping Legion Lost for sure.
 
Posted by ultrajo on :
 
Wow. Legion Lost is becoming one big huge stinking piece of crud.
 
Posted by Omni on :
 
can they please just end Legion lost now.
they've tarnished the name of a once great series!
 
Posted by Leather Wolf on :
 
Why are they doing another crossover just when Legion Lost was finally getting it's own storyline back? Either make it an independent Legion title or send our beloved heroes home! I don't want the Legion so intertwined with other 21st century heroes/series that I have no intention of ever reading. Legion Lost could stand on it's own merit if DeFalco and DC tried writing decent material.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
Too soon to start shipping Element Lad and Chemical Kid? There seems to be a whole lot of mentoring going on, and curious minds want to know why Jan is so interested in 'educating young men.'
 
Posted by The Man From Cargg on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leather Wolf:
Why are they doing another crossover just when Legion Lost was finally getting it's own storyline back? Either make it an independent Legion title or send our beloved heroes home! I don't want the Legion so intertwined with other 21st century heroes/series that I have no intention of ever reading. Legion Lost could stand on it's own merit if DeFalco and DC tried writing decent material.

I couldn't agree MORE. I thought we would start to get some spotlight issues focusing on all the secrets the Lost members seem to be keeping from each other.
 
Posted by Mr. Kayak on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Omni:
can they please just end Legion lost now.

I think they will soon. DC's blog announced both DeFalco and Woods are heading elsewhere, and given the gossip I read online (mostly on bleeding cool) I guess january 2013 will see another round of pruning among the lower selling books.

BTW, I also wish DC put a new writer on LoSH. Not only I think the book is bad, but it looks like it's also selling worse than ever.
 
Posted by Omni on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Kayak:
quote:
Originally posted by Omni:
can they please just end Legion lost now.

I think they will soon. DC's blog announced both DeFalco and Woods are heading elsewhere, and given the gossip I read online (mostly on bleeding cool) I guess january 2013 will see another round of pruning among the lower selling books.

BTW, I also wish DC put a new writer on LoSH. Not only I think the book is bad, but it looks like it's also selling worse than ever.

well thats good news!

and i agree about the Losh book. i honestly haven't liked any of it since levits came back. i'm not in love with the stories or the characterizations.

and there's just too many questions and mess ups. like the fate five being rectcond.
 
Posted by Leather Wolf on :
 
I don 't really want to see Legion Lost cancelled. They could stay lost longer and take a long time getting home. I just want them off 21st century earth and rid of their crossovers with other DC titles. Give them good writing and great adventures and this diverse cast could make a great sci-Fi ensemble book traveling a few years through space and time before finally getting safely home. Just keep them true to their Legion roots and the series could really take off, but have them stuck on 21st earth with a thousand other super heroes living near by is just bad writing.
 
Posted by ultrajo on :
 
Yes. They've been transformed into the mundane and ordinary. Also, don't get me started on the lackluster adversaries.
 
Posted by Fat Cramer on :
 
This would be a great opportunity to have the Lost team visit various times between the 21st and 31st century as they try to stumble home in a broken time machine. Pretty much wide open territory for writers.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fat Cramer:
This would be a great opportunity to have the Lost team visit various times between the 21st and 31st century as they try to stumble home in a broken time machine. Pretty much wide open territory for writers.

Heck yeah! There's tons of potential for adventures between the 'current day' and the 'Legion future!'

Great idea, FC!
 
Posted by Leather Wolf on :
 
One crossover such a storyline would enable would be them running into the old Atari Force team in the 23rd century. Having the Legion Lost crew mingle with Martin Champion, Tempest, Dart, Blackjack, Taz, Babe and Morphea would be an interesting storyline and allow for the comeback of a great Sci-Fi series.
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
Put me on board for a story about the LL crew bouncing through the next 1000 years on their way home....so much more potential than this Generic Superhero Team #35 thing they've got goin' on at the moment...
 
Posted by Ken Arromdee on :
 
Atari Force is, of course, a licensed property.
 
Posted by Leather Wolf on :
 
Atari Force was also a DC series that could be revived or visited if DC really wanted to go there. It might make an interesting marketing move if the idea were ever tried. If the Legion can team up with Star Trek, it can team up with Atari Force.
 
Posted by MYG on :
 
The main appeal of the Legion for me (at least in part) over the past 30 plus years has been their "stand alone" quality! I don't mind the "lost" aspect and not actually being in the 31st century, but enough with the cross overs with 21st century books I too have no intention of collecting!!! The Legion Lost characters could very well have been "lost" in a 31st century alternate universe and still have the "lost" quality story line(s)...probably even better! Time to bring them "home" before Lost gets cancelled. They don't belong in the 21st century!
 
Posted by EmeraldEmperor on :
 
Leave Yera and Timber Wolf in the 21st Century....send the rest of the team back to rejoin the Legion. Cancel this title and replace it with a Legion Acedemy series!
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Set:
Too soon to start shipping Element Lad and Chemical Kid? There seems to be a whole lot of mentoring going on, and curious minds want to know why Jan is so interested in 'educating young men.'

And we all know people are gonna start speculating on just why Chemica Kid was rejecting Dragonwing's advances way way waaaaaay back at the start of the series!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I don't mind if Chemical Kid is revealed to be gay, I just don't want Jan, in a mentor/teacher capacity to be using that position to have a sexual relationship with him.

Anything else is a betrayal of trust that can be incredibly damaging, gay or straight, imo.
[shrug]

I'd love to see the LOST run into the Wanderers/Legionnaires. Gates should decide to stay with them.
I don't want to leave Brin in the past, and I'd certainly like the group to pick up Drura and bring her with them on their journey to the future.
 
Posted by jdpinball on :
 
perhaps it has something to do with both of them having similar powers..hmmmm? [Smile] I'd actually like to see more of the seniors working with the freshman class. And it seem if Brainy is so intelligent he would design a system to create best case battle scenarios and be able to pick the best team for the needed job.
 
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
 
Chem Kid is a mess and most needful of what Jan can teach at a human level. Powers are secondary but also a convenient reason to write them together.
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
It would be nice if Jan also tried to impart some of the Legion's code and values to Chem. Maybe try to give him an appreciation of the Legion's greatest accomplishments, and the legacies of the fallen (especially Chemical King)!
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
You know... a friendship between Chem Kid and Jacques might be interesting.
 
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
 
He seems a long way from developing friendships to me, let alone any romantic relationships to anyone not disfunctional also.

Most people, my experience, either change slowly or due to personal disaster. I'm not sure just what would qualify as personal disaster to that character?

If I were to pick "one" Legionnaire to "adopt" him, I think it would be two, Ayla and Vi. They present a family to him, are strong willed, won't let him crap on the carpet, will teach him respect for others and have experience with self-centered lost puppies.

Since there is two of them instead of one, it would look more like family than mentoring. Their interest, they might see him as someone they can shape and raise up, maternal instincts I suppose. It might lead to some interesting dynamics when/if they have kids of their own.
 
Posted by Chemical King on :
 
Well Legio Lost definitely does not know where to go. This really is a sham of a series, which is sad cause it's featuring a whole bunch of really cool Legionnaires. But it is as it has always been: Travelling to the 20th (or now 21st) century to boost Legion sales just is not working...

As for the regular book, I'm not sure about all the new members. Certainly Levitz is trying hard to give the book some new drive with them, and sometimes, he succeeds. The problem is that this just does not leave enough space for all the other Legionnaires. Some of them have not been shown at all during the recent Dominator storyline, whereas he introduced even more new academy members to save the day ... that was a little bit over the top in my book.

Though the regular LSH book is way better than LL, it also needs to focus more on the core team. Once the lost team returns from the 21st century (which it probably will in January when their book is finally taken out of its misery), there will have to be a major shakeup of the Legion - otherwise we will be stuck with over 30 members [Eek!]
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
^^^I agree that introducing the two newbies was a bit pointless. It actually kind of makes me wonder if Levitz is just super super inflexible, had originally planned this story when he had access to Dawnstar and Tellus, and couldn't conceive of a way to write it without their powers.

Arguably, the newbies were both needed to drive the plot at various points. Mwindaji found Dreamy and Brainy in the first place (and Brainy's forcefield belt). Otaki was the one who explained that they could stop the other Dominator beasties from being a threat by stopping them from blooming. Outside of those points though, they made very little to no impact...and I don't see how those specific feats couldn't have been duplicated by any number of pre-existing characters. Hell, it might even have been a decent opportunity for Glorith to do something other than be a terrified kid fretting about how she doesn't really have any desire whatsoever to be there...
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blockade Boy:
If I were to pick "one" Legionnaire to "adopt" him, I think it would be two, Ayla and Vi. They present a family to him, are strong willed, won't let him crap on the carpet, will teach him respect for others and have experience with self-centered lost puppies.

I like this idea. I think that, although Chemical Kid does seem to have grown up a bit, it's eays to forget how snotty, immature, arrogant and totally not-ready-for-the-Legion this kid was in the Legion Academy arc back before Variable Lad bit it. Vi and Ayla are just the ones to give him a whupping if he ever does get out of line.
 
Posted by Blockade Boy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac:
quote:
Originally posted by Blockade Boy:
If I were to pick "one" Legionnaire to "adopt" him, I think it would be two, Ayla and Vi. They present a family to him, are strong willed, won't let him crap on the carpet, will teach him respect for others and have experience with self-centered lost puppies.

I like this idea. I think that, although Chemical Kid does seem to have grown up a bit, it's eays to forget how snotty, immature, arrogant and totally not-ready-for-the-Legion this kid was in the Legion Academy arc back before Variable Lad bit it. Vi and Ayla are just the ones to give him a whupping if he ever does get out of line.
They can practice on him until they have their own. By 31st century, there's got to be a way to stir-fry the DNA and crank out some lightning bugs.

[ September 09, 2012, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: Blockade Boy ]
 


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