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Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
I don't know how many of you read Wizard but I do. Don't know why, its the comic equivalent of the National Enquirer at times but its fun.

They had a feature in their latest issues which speaks for itself. So without further ado, I present:

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Posted by Frog Kid on :
 
Hilarious!
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
Wait! There's more! [Big Grin]

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Posted by Sanity or Madness? on :
 
Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay is all I can think of with the J'Onn one. Did they inebriate themselves before they thought that one up or something? "Most postive looks of everything he's become"? THAT J'Onn's obviously never become much that could be dubbed "positive."

Aquaman needs two things (or more precisely, one thing to have and one thing NOT to have): a beard, and no orange anywhere on his body. I'm sure that could be worked with to give something that doesn't look like he'd sink like a stone if he wore it. Plus how could you swim in something so loose? People kick off their shoes & loose clothing when they enter the water for a reason, just as swimmers all wear skintight suits these days.

In comparison the Luke Cage one is okay, if ever so slightly boring, not least in that its almost a direct copy of Ultimate Nick Fury
 
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Posted by Frog Kid on :
 
Cool! I really like the updated Boomerang!
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
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Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
Saving the best for last. May I present The Devourer of Worlds:

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Posted by Frog Kid on :
 
[lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]
Thanks a lot! My boss just asked me why I was laughing so much!
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
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Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay is all I can think of with the J'Onn one. Did they inebriate themselves before they thought that one up or something? "Most postive looks of everything he's become"? THAT J'Onn's obviously never become much that could be dubbed "positive."

I agree. Of the bunch, this is the worst. Even worse than Baron Zemo. While J'onn needs updating, this isn't it.

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Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
Aquaman needs two things (or more precisely, one thing to have and one thing NOT to have): a beard, and no orange anywhere on his body. I'm sure that could be worked with to give something that doesn't look like he'd sink like a stone if he wore it. Plus how could you swim in something so loose? People kick off their shoes & loose clothing when they enter the water for a reason, just as swimmers all wear skintight suits these days.

I'd go for the beard, more regal. I like their concept but only for diplomatic purposes. Otherwise I again agree with you. He needs a skin tight suit. One that blends in with his surroundings, greens and blues.

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Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
In comparison the Luke Cage one is okay, if ever so slightly boring, not least in that its almost a direct copy of Ultimate Nick Fury

Which was a rip-off of Sam Jackson as Shaft. Anyone who can't see Jackson in either the Ultimate Fury or this Luke Cage isn't looking hard enough.

[ December 03, 2003, 07:35 AM: Message edited by: Lightning Lad ]
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
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Originally posted by Frog Kid:
Cool! I really like the updated Boomerang!

I agree. Boomerang is the best of the lot. Something that I could see actually being used in the books.
 
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Originally posted by Frog Kid:
[lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]
Thanks a lot! My boss just asked me why I was laughing so much!

Hope I didn't get you in trouble but I'm glad you got a laugh out of it.

I think I'm going to write in requesting this become a regular feature. Maybe a couple of times a year.
 
Posted by Frog Kid on :
 
We should do it ourselves here. Let's make new clothes for the Legionnaires & co. Who wouldn't like to see Dr Mayavale in a decent garb?

[ December 03, 2003, 07:44 AM: Message edited by: Frog Kid ]
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
That's a great idea! With you, Dean and Drake (and anyone else I'm forgetting) we've got a damn good stable of artists here.

Who's up for the task? We could have Lash, Cru, Teeds and two others on our panel and you guys could be the artistic end.
 
Posted by Frog Kid on :
 
A simpler question would be: Who's gay?
 
Posted by Sanity or Madness? on :
 
Of all the redesigns, Angel is the best - basically because they did no designing, just ripped off Neal Adams' costume design for him sans halo.

Boomerang isn't too bad either.

Obviously they've never seen, read or heard anything about Zemo. Plus eugh is all I can say to that. I can't even say its better than the J'Onn one - its just as bad.

And I take it they were having a laugh with Galactus, huh?

[ December 03, 2003, 08:04 AM: Message edited by: Sanity or Madness? ]
 
Posted by the boy with UltraPowers on :
 
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Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
I don't know how many of you read Wizard but I do. Don't know why, its the comic equivalent of the National Enquirer at times but its fun.

i also get "WIZARD" !! everyone really slags it off, don't they !!

i must admit i don't follow what they say or their opinions !! i basically buy to find out what's going on in comics at the moment !!

who's on which book, what action figures are coming out, etc .....

this artical did make me laugh !!

Matthew.
 
Posted by Harbinger on :
 
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Originally posted by Frog Kid:
A simpler question would be: Who's gay?

A easier question would be who isn't surely?

I'd like to volunteer my service to the cause too, I may even doodsle a picture for you all......
 
Posted by Sudro Brown II on :
 
I actually really liked the Aquaman redux. I've never liked the beard-and-long-hair version of the character. He seems more Unabomber than king. I like the Roman-esque stuff. Imagine it as coral or something instead of metal and it doesn't seem so bad.

Luke Cage was also a step in the right direction, though these guys apparently haven't seen him in Daredevil lately. Luke dropped the yellow shirt ages ago. Still, anything that makes him look like a baaaad motherf (shut yo mouth!) is a good idea.

I love the naval coat on Capt. Boomerang. Makes him seem more professional.

I agree that Zemo and MM were pretty ugh.

Angel's gloves were what really made that outfit for me.

And Galactus by Tom of Finland was just damn, damn funny.
 
Posted by Sonnie Bloke on :
 
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Originally posted by Harbinger:
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Originally posted by Frog Kid:
A simpler question would be: Who's gay?

A easier question would be who isn't surely?

I'd like to volunteer my service to the cause too, I may even doodsle a picture for you all......

Belinda didn't post that, it was me - she hadn't logged out last time she used my 'puter .... sorry B, but next time I'm gonna party in your name!

[devil] [lol]
 
Posted by Star Boy on :
 
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Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
Plus how could you swim in something so loose? People kick off their shoes & loose clothing when they enter the water for a reason, just as swimmers all wear skintight suits these days.

If you look at the costume in the bottom RHS, you'll see the skin-tight swimming version. As the article says: "The costume... (changes) into royal robes, armor, or a superhero uniform as necessary". However, it's basically Tempest's outfit in blues instead of reds...
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
WOW! Rodi's kinda cute, what a beaming smile!
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
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Originally posted by Star Boy:
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Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
Plus how could you swim in something so loose? People kick off their shoes & loose clothing when they enter the water for a reason, just as swimmers all wear skintight suits these days.

If you look at the costume in the bottom RHS, you'll see the skin-tight swimming version. As the article says: "The costume... (changes) into royal robes, armor, or a superhero uniform as necessary". However, it's basically Tempest's outfit in blues instead of reds...
That's actually a suit that was used by Aquaman in one of his past series. I can't recall which one but it did see publication a few years back.
 
Posted by STU on :
 
Re: Captain Boomerang's costume:

"This guy's look is so hideous, I'm amazed his boomerangs actually return to him."

[lol]
 
Posted by Sanity or Madness? on :
 
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Originally posted by Lightning Lad:
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Originally posted by Star Boy:
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Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?:
Plus how could you swim in something so loose? People kick off their shoes & loose clothing when they enter the water for a reason, just as swimmers all wear skintight suits these days.

If you look at the costume in the bottom RHS, you'll see the skin-tight swimming version. As the article says: "The costume... (changes) into royal robes, armor, or a superhero uniform as necessary". However, it's basically Tempest's outfit in blues instead of reds...
That's actually a suit that was used by Aquaman in one of his past series. I can't recall which one but it did see publication a few years back.
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Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
Thanks SoM! I remembered the look but couldn't for the life of me figure out where or when it appeared.
 
Posted by Pov on :
 
There's actually a story behind that Aquaman outfit, and why Tempest's outfit resembles it so much.

The Aquaman costume was designed by editor Neil Pozner for the miniseries that cover is from. Neil and Phil Jimenez were in a relationship up to the time of his death from AIDS. Phil redesigned Garth as Tempest for his mini-series, and based his new look on Pozner's design for Aquaman.

It's much more touching to hear Phil tell it; check out the lettercols in the TEMPEST mini.
 
Posted by snowsparkle on :
 
Personally, I'll have to agree with them about Aquaman's hair, at least. Long hair + saltwater = nasty hair. *sigh* I miss the curls. But then, I love blond curls. *ahem*
 
Posted by the boy with UltraPowers on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pov:
There's actually a story behind that Aquaman outfit, and why Tempest's outfit resembles it so much.

The Aquaman costume was designed by editor Neil Pozner for the miniseries that cover is from. Neil and Phil Jimenez were in a relationship up to the time of his death from AIDS. Phil redesigned Garth as Tempest for his mini-series, and based his new look on Pozner's design for Aquaman.

It's much more touching to hear Phil tell it; check out the lettercols in the TEMPEST mini.

hey !!

thanks for the info, POV !!

you learn something new every day !!

i didn't know Phil and Neil had been together !! i remember seeing little tributes to Neil in Phil's work !! i thought it was something like, Neil had inspired Phil to draw, or he'd get Phil his first job, or something like that ......

Matthew.
 
Posted by Pov on :
 
I had to dig this out; Made me bawl like a baby as I reread and typed it up... [Embarrassed] This is Phil's closing piece to the lettercol of TEMPEST #4:

And finally...

Has anyone out there noticed the similarity between Tempest's new costume and the one Aquaman wore in his first miniseries, almost 11 years ago? You should. Designed by Neal Pozner and drawn by Craig Hamilton, that blue and white costume of Aquaman's was another direct inspiration affecting this miniseries-- more than a decade after it first saw publication.

Some of you may have seen Neal's name a lot in the pages of DC Comics the past couple of years, creeping up in dedications like mine. Neal had an incredibly long history with DC Comics, starting as a youngster reading THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES with Paul Levitz
(YAY!--Pov [Big Grin] ) and ending as Senior Editor, Creative Services, until he passed away in 1994.

To me, Neal was many things, and often the first: He gave me my first pencilling job at DC Comics; I was his first new freelancer hire when he returned to DC Comics in 1991 after a sabbatical in advertising; he was the first man I ever asked out on a date; he was my first boyfriend; he was the first person I'd ever watched live with and die from complications from AIDS. His life and death moved a number of people-- I'm not sure if he could fathom or believe how many-- and every positive contribution I make to comics is inspired by and for him, whereever he is.

A quick story: Neal wasn't a particularly good swimmer. One of my many regrets is that I never had the chance to teach Neal how to be a better swimmer; I never had the chance to hold him as he practiced floating, secure in the knowledge that someone who truly loved him would support him if he started to sink, someone he could trust would catch him if anything should go wrong. While I think he knew I'd do anything in my very limited power to take care of him and to make his life as safe and as happy as possible(I was his carepartner until the day he died [and well beyond!]), it still makes me sad to think of all the opportunities we're not going to have together. It pretty much sucks that I can't tell him "I love you" to his face anymore, or hear him laugh, or teach him how to swim, or read old Legion of Super-Heroes stories with him.

The point of all this is, well-- I guess I'm asking you folks out there to take the time (especially now, around the holidays) to tell the people who matter to you "I love you", in whatever way you feel comfortable; to let them know that you can be trusted, and that you care about them and that you value them. In the end, it'll be worth it, because they'll feel better, you'll feel better, and it's good for your karma, anyway. It sounds cliched, I know, but we really don't know how long we have on this little planet of ours, and life's way to short to live with hate and regrets.

Phil Jimenez
--Feeling Pretty Damned Lucky



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And for the record, I [love] you, Legion World! [Smile]

[ December 05, 2003, 07:03 PM: Message edited by: Pov ]
 
Posted by STU on :
 
Thanks for posting that, Bri. [Smile]

I've met a lot of terrific people on the boards since the first day I joined the DCMBs back in spring of 2001. Just about every one of the people I've posted with has enriched my life in some way -- and continue to do so every day here on Legion World.

I've also had the incredible good luck to get to know a couple of folks better than just as electronic blips passing each other in the fathomless expanse of cyberspace.

And it's not that often that I say this, but here goes: I care about you, I value you, and you are an important part of my life. Friendship and comraderie can be easy, but trusting someone you've only known as a virtual word balloon on a message board -- that's a different story. So above all else, I'm profoundly grateful that you've placed your trust in me. Thank you.

That's all. [Smile]
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
Thanks for sharing that Bri. I don't think I had ever heard that particular letter before. I knew of their relationship but not of Phil's declarations in the column.

And to you and Thomas both, I'm very glad to have gotten to know you, the little that I have, and am glad to consider you both friends. Maybe one day the Luck Lords will rule in our favor and we can all meet.

Take care of yourselves. [love]
 
Posted by the boy with UltraPowers on :
 
thank's for posting the actual letter, POV !!!

it was in deed, touching ..... and as STU has said, it is great to know you all, and i don't think i'd enjoy each day, without my visits to "LEGION WORLD" and interacting with all of you !!!

as SCOTT said, one day the "Luck Lords" may shine on us, and we will all meet up ......

here's hoping !!!

[love] [love] [love] to you all !!! from the boy with UltraPowers !!!

Matthew.
 
Posted by Danny Blaine on :
 
I would lke to volunteer for duty as well...
 
Posted by Kid Prime on :
 
Thanks, Stu. [Smile]
 
Posted by profh0011 on :
 
Luke Cage has always been a favorite of mine, especially from the days before he chanmged his name to POWER MAN. That said, even I thought his "costume" was silly, and even did a parody of it back during high school. (I love John Romita's art-- but his costume designs really leave a LOT to be desired.)

I hated the MAX design by Richard Corben. But I LIKE this new one. By the way-- that's NOT Sam Jackson-- that's Avery Brooks!!! (DS9)
 
Posted by Leviathan6033 on :
 
I enjoyed this article a lot. Some of the redesigns were silly but a lot of them were cool!

p.s.the boy with ultrapowers is CUTE!!
 


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