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Which is funny because early in the threeboot, Imra basically shuts Jo down mentally for trying to attack Garth, which is exactly what she DOESN'T do in Legion Lost.

:nonono:

I've fantasized about doing just that my revenge now though, is that my life is perfectly happy and I am arguably in a better place than they are

I've felt for a long time that there are parallels with school bullies in Keith Giffen's attitude towards superheroes and superhero fans.

I wonder if he got bullied by someone who resembled Karate Kid.

No, he got bullied by Karate Kid's creator: Jim Shooter.

That's some revenge there!

"Revenge is a dish best served cold."

- Quote attributed to Eugene Sue

ooof - Is that actually true? I know Shooter is a dick to the people he works with from all accounts. I didn't know if those two ever worked together.

It really explains his bloodlust for Val.

Yes, Giffen worked on Defenders, Micronauts, Jack of Hearts, and other odds and sods for Marvel while Shooter was there, initially as associate editor and later as EiC.

Man, so much back office drama, even in comics.

Given what we know of all the weirdess about Zero Hour and what came after, it would be interesting for someone to write a chronicle of all that happened from then until now. But I'm sure most of the people involved wouldn't talk about it - I think they'd avoid throwing folks under the bus who are still alive or in the industry today, if they even remember any of the details at all.

I'd love to see a behind-the-scenes tell-all about DC during the Jennette Kahn Era. Sean Howe wrote a pretty good one about Marvel, with lots of choice bits about Jim Shooter.

Gossip can be fun!

I'm surprised - I guess some folks don't give a f* about Shooter's reach, but some do. I know that after Perez' death, an essay about the infamous JL/Avengers crossover written by KC Carlson was finally released, and I think the timing of when it was released was no coincidence. I think the same is true for some who have been involved in the Legion over the last 25 years, and folks, even those who are not actively involved in the craft, are sensitive to people's opinions who still are.

25 years is a long time!

I just read the KC Carlson article that GL mentioned (it's at the Comics Beat website.) And...I don't know, it seems unfairly biased against Shooter. I'm not saying that Shooter should not shoulder a large part of the blame, but so should Giordano. I have suspected in recent years that his teddy-bear demeanor hid a passive-aggressive streak that caused a lot of problems. That's part of the reason I'd be interested in a tell-all book about that era.

Indeed. But those feelings and attitudes are still there. I once asked for a commission from an artist that had a certain character addressing a certain creator and was politely declined due to (essentially) interpersonal/industry politics. I think a lot of folks still aren't willing to talk, so whomever is up to this task needs to be able to get accurate dirt and not care about the daggers that will be thrown at them.

memories last forever!

Unless you are forgetful

or get amnesia

In an old Huey, Dewey, and Louie Junior Woodchucks story, the boys actually cheer when the villain becomes an amnesiac, and they leave him in that state. Very compassionate, those ducklings.

No wonder my generation turned out so messed up, reading stories like that.

Louie was a scam artist type in the Reboot, while Huey was super uptight, and Dewey wanted fame

I picked up a special edition of Silent Running a few months ago, where the robots are Huey, Louie, and Dewey. As it's a bit of a sad film, I've yet to watch it.

I love the song Silent Running by Mike and the Mechanics. Paul Carrack's lead vocals are outstanding.

https://youtu.be/Ddi2TBnzdPo

I work with a guy named Mike

Mike Grell drew the Legion issue with the death of the Preboot Lyle Norg.