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Green Arrow/Black Canary
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OMG, there's going to be a series! I didn't know this... please tell me the artist will be Amnda Connor, like it was on the GA/BC Wedding Special.
Speaking of said special, I **RILLLLY** enjoyed it, it was quite hilarious and had a KILLER shock ending, leadng into the ongoing.
As Silver Age fan who grew up in the 70s, it may surprise you to find I didn't mind Black Canary and Green Arrow NOT being a couple. In particular, I felt it helped Dinah make the leap to stardom she always seemed not quit able to make.
So the special was awesome, and I'm totally looking forward to the ongoing. Anyone else?
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Y'know, it's really not that hard to check m'boyo: http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=8114 Originally posted by MLLASH: I'm totally looking forward to the ongoing. Anyone else? No.
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I am. I liked the special, too, but I wasn't so crazy about the art. I think a more serious style might have worked better with that script. That said, the cover is one of my favourite pictures ever.
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Conner has said she's not quite a monthly artist. But she does some great work, and she'd be a fit for this book. Maybe get someone else to draw 3 issues a year, or rotate like they did with the GL series.
Just spouting off.
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I'm looking forward to it, but with reservations. I'm not really into that the married the two of them. I liked that they had flings with other people over the years.
I liked the special, but like I said, some of it was a little too cheesy for me. The strip club scene a little, but actually, the fight more than anything. But Amanda's art was just plain awesome. Dinah looked super-hot (I'm sure the men looked good too) and Amanda does such a cool job with facial expressions.
I'm only worried about Winnick writing a married Dinah and Ollie. I want more 'busting up drug dealers' than I do 'no, you take out the trash!'.
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If Winick is writing it, I won't read it. Why did they have Tony Bedard do only the Black Canary mini-series? I think he understands these characters a lot better than Winick.
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There's an interview with Winick up. I was wondering why Ollie's not on the cover for issue one. Looks like you won't have to put up with "taking out the trash" moments for awhile, Cobie.
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I might pick it up, since
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">it's Connor and not Ollie. I've never been much of an Ollie fan.</span></span>
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Very much agreed on that Cru.
I really liked the special, mostly for the art (Connor draws very sexy men and women and manages to show emotion really well even in her slighlty more cartoony style. I especially loved PG with the hottie under her arm during the hen night). Admittedly then ending was a little silly since <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Dinah is one of the top martial artists of the DCU *and* has here Canary Cry so there were any number of ways she could have incapactitated Ollie without killing him even if she had been drinking or something</span></span> but I can live with it. Hopefully it'll get fully explained right off the bat though (which seems to be the case from that interview).
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I haven't read the story yet. Why did
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Dinah have to kill Ollie?</span></span>
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Editorial Fiat, is my guess. I think we'll find that:
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Ollie is not dead.</span></span>
Truth be told, I'm not really interested in them sharing a title. I'd rather read about one or the other in their own book with the other as a supporting character. And with Winnick involved, my interest drops that much more.
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Well originally it was meant to be Dinah not Ollie, according to the interview. Whether that's true or not I don't know but either way I suspect you're right in that it was an editorial thing. I also suspect you're right about Ollie and his situation.
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Truth be told, I'm not really interested in them sharing a title. I'd rather read about one or the other in their own book with the other as a supporting character. And with Winnick involved, my interest drops that much more. ditto, and i:m a big fan of both
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Well I was a Connor Hawke fan. I'm glad they didn't kill him off. Sure Ollie is an icon but does he sell comics? When he gets a star writer or artist he does. Get star creative teams on legacy characters and they will sell well also.
I'm glad Connor is going to get the limelight again.
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I liked both GA characters. I'm glad to see Connor getting some more air time. And Dinah's recent reinvigoration (credit where credit is due- Thanks Gail Simone!) has earned her a title. With fans of both characters, this should guarantee a success.
Just spouting off.
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Can't believe they wanted to off Black Canary? I like her more than any Green Arrow!
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*****SPOILERS for #1******* -- Nice to see that they settled the whole "is he dead or not" thing in the first issue. It was no surprise that it was an imposter on the wedding night, but I was surprised that it was Everyman. (anybody know if this effects "Infinity Inc" at all?) Also suprising to see that it was the Amazons who were responsible. -- Good to see Batman exhibit some detective work, but of course it still reinforces his modern near-omniniscient persona. -- As a big Green Lantern fan, it was good to see that he was treated as Ollie's best friend here and that there was an explanation why his ring could've been fooled. I also liked the acknowledgement that Hal had brought Ollie back from the dead the last time. -- Missed opportunity though with Dr.Mid-Nite since he and Dinah had dated. I would've liked to have seen a personal moment between the two. -- The main reason I bought this was for the GL appearance (I flipped through the book at the store to find out what happened to Ollie). I might pick up #2 to see where it goes, but I'm on the fence. I like the clean art style, but it seems ... just a bit off from first rate.
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I'm greatly relieved to know that Ollie is alive.
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So am I. Which leads me to the question(s): When did the change occur, and who the **** is Everyman???
Why are there so many characters in the DC Multiverse I never heard about although reading since my childhood days???
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Everyman was one of Luthor's Everyman candidates from '52'. I'm guessing the switch was made sometime during the wedding brawl.
Good to see Ollie alive, better to see Connor getting some spotlight.
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I really enjoyed this issue. I was never on the fence, since Conner is my favorite Green Arrow (always has been) and I ****ing love Dinah! So much. So much.That said, I wasn't holding my breath for Winick to deliver. Sometimes I love his stuff (Exiles, parts of Outsiders, parts of Green Arrow), sometimes I hate his stuff (other parts of Outsiders and Green Arrow, Batman). But, man. I loved it. I loved the characters across the DCU that appeared to help/offer support. I loved Batman (I just love him and Dinah-- she's so... good for him). I loved that Pieter was there to help even though he and Dinah used to kinda.. whatever. I loved Mia and Roy. And even Hal, reacting as a best friend would. And, personally, I absolutely adored the art. I thought it was clean and the expressions were great. It kind of reminded me of the art on New Frontier, actually, though I'm not 100% sure why. I felt like it made for dynamic storytelling, and I actually looked back at the cover to see who it was halfway through because I was so impressed. (Naturally, I didn't recognize the name but still.) The ending though, heh. That just made me smile. I dunno why, but it did. How badly am I hoping Shiva is one of Athena's converts like Harley and Holly? Or Cheshire? You don't even wanna know.. OH! And thank God someone finally killed that #*@%!(#$^@*#($*#%^ Everyman. God. I hated him. He was just so... and then he kept popping up everywhere. Jeysus, where are the other DCU evil shapeshifters?! There must be some! The MU has, like, half a dozen! Take some of theirs! Jeez. So glad to be rid of him.
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Originally posted by CJ Taylor: Everyman was one of Luthor's Everyman candidates from '52'. I'm guessing the switch was made sometime during the wedding brawl.
I don't think so. The brawl interrupted the wedding but the guy in the cage mentions his "wife" so it's more likely the wedding took place off-panel and the switch happened after that, but before the wedding night. Originally posted by Caliente: OH! And thank God someone finally killed that #*@%!(#$^@*#($*#%^ Everyman. God. I hated him. He was just so... and then he kept popping up everywhere. Jeysus, where are the other DCU evil shapeshifters?! There must be some! The MU has, like, half a dozen! Take some of theirs! Jeez. So glad to be rid of him. Where else had Every(where)man been popping up? Marvel's currently overrun with evil shape-shifters, what with the Skrulls invading. Maybe DC should have the Durlans invade to explain away all the other recent DC deaths.
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Where else had Every(where)man been popping up? I know he impersonated Blue Beetle in Manhunter. Two appearances might not sound like a lot, but it hasn't been that long since 52 ended.
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Originally posted by Chaim Mattis Keller: Where else had Every(where)man been popping up? I know he impersonated Blue Beetle in Manhunter. Two appearances might not sound like a lot, but it hasn't been that long since 52 ended.He also popped up in Wonder Woman v3/Amazons Attack impersonating Sargent Steel as part of a partnership with Circe. And then with him as GA it just felt like overexposure to me. I do hope that it'll tie in well with the Amazons, though. Since he was on their side (or Circe's, anyway) in the war and all.
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Wow, I just read it and I liked it! Kind of suprised who is behind it all. I didn't think anything of it at first.
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