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Re: American Idol
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I'm still listening to all the AI3 songs at the yahoo group. Yeah, I'm an addict...

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From MSN News this morning:

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Diana DeGarmo came in second place on "American Idol," but she already has plans to release a single.

DeGarmo's first song is scheduled to come out June 22 through RCA Records, according to the record company's Web site.

The bubbly 16-year-old from Snellville, Ga., was the runner-up last week on the Fox TV singing competition. "Idol" winner Fantasia Barrino topped her by just 1.3 million votes out of more than 65 million votes cast.

Barrino, a 19-year-old from High Point, N.C., is working on her first single, which is due out June 15.

She and DeGarmo both performed the song, titled "I Believe," during last week's finale.

Coming in second isn't so bad, though — last season's runner-up, Clay Aiken, went on to sell more than 2 million copies of his debut disc and enjoys just as much fame as the winner, Ruben Studdard.

Both singers and the other 10 "Idol" finalists will go on tour starting July 14 in Salt Lake City.

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Aha! So all 12 finalists will be on the tour. I was wondering if Leah and Matt would be included.


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Diana's single come out today! From http://www.cnn.com:

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Gets help from Manchester for 'Don't Cry Out Loud'

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 Posted: 10:51 AM EDT (1451 GMT)

ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Now comes a real thrill for the pride of Snellville.

"American Idol" finalist Diana DeGarmo's first single, "Dreams," will be released Tuesday by RCA Records, and the 17-year-old singer says she's excited to hear it played on the radio.

"I know I'm probably going to have a heart attack," DeGarmo told The Associated Press Sunday in a telephone interview from Los Angeles, where she's been rehearsing for the "American Idol" summer concert tour.

She was the runner-up to Fantasia Barrino -- who now goes by Fantasia -- in this season's "American Idol" singing competition. Though Fantasia won the record contract given to the winner of the popular Fox TV show, DeGarmo said she's close to signing a record deal.

"We're signing soon with RCA," DeGarmo said. "We're doing a full album, and if all things go well, hopefully it will be out before the end of the year. I can't wait to have everything finalized and in ink."

The three-song CD single also contains DeGarmo's version of "I Believe," the single released by Fantasia, and "Don't Cry Out Loud."

Fantasia and DeGarmo each performed "I Believe" on "American Idol."

DeGarmo says she knows some will view her relationship with Fantasia as an ongoing competition, just as some still contrast the careers of "American Idol" contestants Ruben Studdard and Clay Aiken.

"Actually, we haven't talked about it," DeGarmo said. "I don't think it will be an issue because we will be so completely different in voice and style and music."

DeGarmo recorded "Don't Cry Out Loud" with studio help from Melissa Manchester, who had a top 10 hit with the song in 1979.

"It's really a great feeling of accomplishment," DeGarmo said. "We've gone so far and done so many things, putting our work and money and tears into it."

DeGarmo will make a brief return to her home state on the Fourth of July when she sings the national anthem before the Atlanta Braves' home game against the Boston Red Sox.

She sang the national anthem at a Braves game at the old Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium while she was in third grade, and more recently at Turner Field, but she says this will be different.

"It's pretty cool going back and not just being the little girl from Snellville, but now you have a name when you come back," DeGarmo said.

Even better, she'll have a single.

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Fantasia's dropped Barrino from her professional name... she's the latest Cher & Madonna!


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I knew that was coming. The name "Fantasia" is just too perfect.

So Di got Melissa Manchester to help her record that single, huh? Cool. I think her performance of that song that night before Clive Davis was my favorite moment in American Idol 3.


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I bought Fantasia's "single." It has "Believe" on it, as well as "Chain of Fools" and "Summertime." I've been listening to it a LOT lately.

I want to try Summertime at karaoke sometime...

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AMERICAN IDOL IS BACK, BABY!!!!!!

Tonight's premiere was WAY fun!

I'm a little concerned that Psycho Lass at the end will return and kill everyone!


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Still watching (25 minutes to go). Seems they passed a number through this year that wouldn't have made it in previous years. Or maybe I just don't get the warbling that passes for today's music.

I'm real interested to see if Constatine makes it through all the way.

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I took an early liking to Constantine, myself.


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My family taped it for me because I was at work last night. The last thing I saw was when the boxer girl walked in, but I didn't get to see her perform. What'd I miss?

Constantine reminds me of a younger me, vocally. I like to rock, but I have to really concentrate to do the quiet parts well. (Of course, I look very different than him.) I hope he does well and I hope his band can wait it out for him.

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I didn't get to see the Wednesday night show.

I suppose this thread title *could* be edited, because there was no Carlos Pacheo mentione this year...

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My family taped it for me because I was at work last night. The last thing I saw was when the boxer girl walked in, but I didn't get to see her perform. What'd I miss?
Dean, you mean you missed "Crazy" Mary Roach? I'm sure they'll repeat her at sometime this year. But in the meantime visit Idol on Fox and read Recaps by the Jaded Journalist to catch up. Here are the first two entries covering Tuesday and Wednesday.

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No More Titles This Season (After This One)

After a long, long, long break in which I spent a lot of time examining my life and where it was heading, and realizing that I love the results, we’re all making our triumphant return to American Idol! Well, not people like Matt Metzger. I mean you, me, the judges, the Blond Bomber and a new batch of contestants. So let’s get right to it!

Ryan opens up the season by welcoming us to Washington, D.C. Hey! I was there! Read all about it here. To start the new season off right, Leandra is going to sing the National Anthem. Um, despite the tremendous pain she seems to be in. Maybe her appendix is about to burst. Although that wouldn’t explain the twitchy arms and the hair explosion on her head.

Hey, remember last year when Fantasia won? Just in case you forgot, here’s what it looked like. And here’s what the other winners look like too. Plus Clay. And here’s why winning Idol is important. Just in case you pathologically avoid newspapers or something..

Moving on, we see a girl in a cow costume, a giant tomato and a guy who proves that you can’t wear just an undershirt if you want to be a good singer. Then Simon calls some chicks fat before telling another girl that it’s possible God doesn’t want her to win. Which is maybe my favorite thing he’s ever said. And it seems like Paula watched a lot of Bill O’Reilly in the offseason because she repeatedly tells Randy and Simon to SHUT! UP!

Ryan competently runs down the list of audition cities, then deftly moves on to this season’s guest judges. No, am I not included on the list. Why? You tell me. Whatever, man! Anyway, Mark McGrath, LL, Gene, Brandy and Kenny Loggins all guested. If that means at least one person is going to sing songs from Caddyshack, it’ll all be worth it.

Ryan, copying my moves once again, lays down on top of a sleeping bag. Man, quit bitin’! Then the judges finally roll in, this time toting Mark McGrath. No, not Vanilla Ice. Mark McGrath. Please listen up. I wonder if the guy from Smashmouth is jealous of this guy.

First up in D.C. is youth pastor extraordinaire Sean McNeill. Actually, for all I know, he’s youth pastor ordinaire, but whatever. I wait for Randy to yell “Plymouth Rock landed on us!” during Sean’s song, but it never comes. Maybe next time. Anyway, the kneeling prayers of 500 teenagers help move Sean along to the next round.

But not even prayers could save Rebecca or Davon. Segue! But basically, Jessie is just an entertainer. Even…though…he…talks…pretty…dryly…and slowly. Jessie completely blows the words to the pabulum of a Josh Groban song, which really has to be the low point of one’s life. Even lower than telling people you love a Josh Groban song, which Simon just did. Then again, he once made an album with pro wrestlers. Jessie gets some help on the lyrics, but it’s pretty much wasted since his singing is so awful. But at least he’s on TV! He’s crying on TV, sure, but he’s still on.

Jessie isn’t the only one who forgets his words. Michael Rapaport’s brother has the same problem. Maybe Anwar Robinson can perk things up. He does teach music, after all. Anwar puts on his best Vanilli outfit and turns it out for the judges. And there goes Mark McG stealing my joke. Um…5 months before I said it. Space-time is an amazing thing, yeah?

Maybe Melissa Considine can keep it rolling. Melissa, who is first class all the way, as you can tell from her copious amounts of tin jewelry. Now, just because she’s wearing all that bling, don’t think she has a lot of money. Class don’t cost a thing, sista! Hmm. Well, Simon seems to have taken most of the good material about Melissa’s scratches and her car wash dress, so, uh…I guess I’ll just sit here and wait this out. Melissa gets rejected and has no option but to head back to, New Jersey.

Now, what about Derek Braxton? Is he a good person? He claims he’s the greatest performer in the history of the universe. But the judges somehow reject Derek. Too bad his only chance was Idol. If only he had some connection to get into the music biz. Like Toni Braxton’s agent. Or Toni Braxton’s producer. Or Toni Braxton’s songwriter. Or Toni Braxton’s record label exec. Or Toni Braxton’s limo driver. This poor kid!

Ryan, standing besides a giant obelisk, then talks about how beautiful our country is. Quickly followed up by a guy who wore what he slept in to his audition. You are allowed a change of clothes, you know. And boxers usually go on the inside, chief. Then there’s a girl in plastic pants who’s so bad, her number tries to run away from her. Followed by a group of people who make me hope I never hear the word fruited again. Which I was already borderline on, anyway. This is all wrapped up by somebody who looks like a flounder and sings in a falsetto. Terrific!

To cheer us up, we’re treated to a heartwarming tale about a girl who pawned her wedding ring so she could afford the trip to D.C. And yet if I sold my wedding ring to put everything down on a hard eight, my wife would kill me. Then the girl cries. Good Lord, I hope she makes it. This could be devastating. I’ve never wanted somebody to be good so badly in my entire life. So here we go. Hang on, everybody. Hey, not bad so far. The judges seem to like her. Simon tells Regina to bring her husband, Mark, which seals the deal. Sorta. Simon rejects her, but it’s not enough to overcome the other judges, who pass her through. So, uh, now do we get the ring back? Speaking of which, let it be known that Regina cherishes her karaoke machine more than her wedding ring. I’m just saying.

First up in D.C. is Marlea Stroman, a mom who was inspired by Fantasia last season. And anybody else who’s ever produced a kid, we can only assume. Except for her fiancé, who she just dumped. Whoever’s inspired her, she sure can sing, so the judges pass her through. But Marlea isn’t the only success story. There’s also…that girl! And this guy! And look at that backflip! And the girl in the pink hat yelling at traffic, which is more of a New York thing than a D.C. thing, but whatever! And these people! They’re all so happy. And that makes me happy! Because I’m a good person. Let it be forever known.

My man Aven Moore is well aware of the entertainment equation that Soul-Glo + Purple = Awesome. This is truly, truly wonderful. And he holds a note like that big, bald tenor Bugs Bunny once messed with. Remember? He turned red? Then purple? Then striped? Ah, youthful memories. I think it’s safe to guess that Aven's head doesn’t smoke. That doesn’t make him any better, but there you go anyway.

Then we move on to Constantine, who has his own metal garage band. Paying homage to his dark lord, Constantine goes on American Idol and sings an Aerosmith power ballad in front of Sugar Ray. Hey, that’s how Pantera got their start, so what’s the big deal?

Moving on, here’s a warning for you kids. Anybody who vehemently describes themselves as “wacky”, “crazy” or “fun” is a person to be avoided at all costs. Unless you like lots of shouting and impromptu dancing that prove just how wacky/crazy/fun said person is. So, don’t hang out with Jillian Bennett. On a more placid note, Jillian’s blonde counterpart, Amanda Hubert, dresses up like she’s rushing a southern sorority. “The girls of Delta Nu - Auburn branch are proper, Amanda. We were raised correctly. And we dress accordingly.”

So how does it go? Well, Jillian goes off on a wacky crying jag, and Amanda calls Simon an *******. Not very nice, if you ask me. And I can’t imagine the girls of Delta Nu - Auburn chapter would condone such un-ladylike talk. So, ladies, uh…I guess that’s it for your lives. Nothing left to do now but play out the string.

Back in D.C., things are still s l o g g i n g along.. Maybe Brian Scott Bagley, hip hop dance instructor / ascot wearer, can improve things. I think he can, because Brian is so prepared for his audition that he’s wearing BOTH a belt and suspenders. There is absolutely no chance his pants accidentally fall down, ruining his interview. Sure, it’s a fashion tornado, but at least he’ll be covered up. Which, of course, isn’t enough for Brian to make it into the next round. It does help him panhandle, however. Now let’s move on to Mary Gober, who claims to look like Sharon Stone or Madonna, but actually looks like Ashlee Simpson.. And now let’s very quickly move away from Mary Gober. Glasses on, hair up!

Back from another break and we get Ian Holmes II, who makes us all hope Ian Holmes III will be better next year. And if not, hopefully he’ll also have a macramé hat. Yah, yah, yah. Yah. Yah. Yah, yah, yah, yes. Ian Holmes II can take that massive endorsement back to Ian Holmes I with pride.

After Ryan pays tribute to Lincoln (they have more in common than you think), DCcrest shows us the considerable talents of Michelle Fisher, who catches mosquitos for a living. That sounds…tedious. Maybe Michelle sings better with her protective mosquito netting on, but the judges reject her. If they all suspiciously come down with West Nile next week, we’ll know why.

Then Ryan interrupts Pray for the Soul of Betty band practice, which will easily make the top 10 in VH1’s Top 50 Least Metal Moments ever. Let’s hope nobody puts his head through an amp. Although in his defense, his skinny t-shirt is most definitely metal. It could use a flaming skull and a half naked Viking chick on it, sure, but you take what you can get. Hamboussi, what do you think about Ryan Seacrest stealing Constantine from your band? Hamboussi, perhaps remembering a story his uncle Scott Ian told him about Anthrax breaking up, just wants to support his friend.

Now what about Jason Joel Smith? I’ll tell you one thing about him, he definitely represents. Representin’ HVAC tech, y’all! Keepin’ you warm in the winter and cool in the summer, boy! And you know dis! Jason, who claims to have weeks of experience on his side, gets ready to turn it out. But first, he lets us know that he used to be a drunk until he found religion. Anyway, Jason needed to give a lot more than 5.9% to make it to the next round. If only Jason learned he could sing a month ago instead of two weeks, I think he could’ve made it. But, you know, blasé la la la. HVAC!

Franchon boxes. And she’s a chick. Who boxes. This girl would dismantle me inside of two minutes. But you know what? I’m okay with that. I’m just glad I’m not in her sight line when she gets rejected. Okay. Mary Roach. Are we really ready for this? She seems slightly awkward. But remember, kids, weirdness is originality. And when you say something like that in a calm, even voice, it’s absolutely terrifying.

After bouncing her, the judges encourage Mary to go to beauty school. I guess they think it’s a good idea for Mary to get near people’s heads with razors. Sensible. Now let’s send Mary out with a bout of angry singing! Argghhhh! Aggressive romance! Totally in your face and heart! Man, that chick is a tall order of crazy.

So that’s D.C. The seat of power for the strongest nation in the history of the world. Come back tomorrow when Idol goes to St. Louis and I stay right smack in the middle of Mediocresville. Hey, look! There’s Mayor Badjoke! And there’s City Comptroller Don Outofmaterial! Greetings from Mediocresville!
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Last night, we were in the nation’s capital. Tonight, we’re in the nation’s…biggest city on the Mississippi. No, wait, that’s New Orleans. Tonight, we’re in the nation’s…well, we’re in St. Louis! Hey, I was there, too! Read all about it right…here. And the auditioners are as excited as ever, showing off their glittered t-shirt and bare backs to convey enthusiasm.

Let’s start things off with the Maynard triplets. Ryan wonders what Simon will think of them. Judging from their painfully bubbly and rehearsed greeting of “What’s up, dog?”, accompanied by an actual prop dog, I’m guessing that Simon will think they’re borderline moronic and only sorta good looking depending on what kind of condition you’re in. Thanks for playing! Outside of the audition chamber, one of the triplets insists that they’re not fat, then guesses that her sister weighs ten more pounds than she actually does. So, it seems that twins and triplets and other identicals don’t all weigh the same. Good to finally have that wrapped up. One of the sisters says they could all exercise if they felt like it. You know, like most Americans.

Next up is Katrina Rece, who speaks on the phone with mental patients and has tasted human flesh. Personality quirks that she considers ice breakers. Now if Katrina coughs during her song and a fingernail falls out, they should definitely put her through. By the way, “In my anthropology class in college…” is NOT a viable excuse for eating human flesh. Was it from a cadaver that the medical college had left over? Does this have something to do with that hospital from The Re-Animator? And will Katrina’s first single be titled “Eating You Alive?” There are just too many questions here!

After a break, Seacrest throws out the first pitch at a Cardinals game, which is a heck of time for somebody to have to throw a baseball for the first time in their life. Even Rick Ankiel laughed at that one. But wait. Haven’t we seen Seacrest’s Little League pictures on past shows? Maybe he did cute little color commentary for the team from the bench or something. And so now until the Cards win another World Series, St. Louis fans will lament the Curse of the Glambino.

Now the question is, who looks worse? Seacrest or Maurice Moreau? Or Daniel Sample? Another question is, why do people still insist on wearing puka shells? Why didn’t we take care of this in the ‘80s? Can Osborne Smith, son of the Wizard of Oz, improve things? Well, he can’t possibly make things worse. He’s actually pretty good, as Paula’s writhing shoulders indicate. Osborne makes it to the next round and dedicates his golden ticket to everybody in St. Louis who’s been held back. Which I guess means…all the people who got cut? Is he rubbing it in?

Let’s focus on Jeremy, who comes with his own singing teacher, Angel. I think more pressure might be on Angel because if she gets cut, she’ll probably lose all of her clients. But that’s not a problem for today since at least two of the judges like her.. Following Angel is young Jessica Pontius, who emits a high pitch screech which is enjoyed by none.

Back from a break and now Smilin’ Joseph Schoen is a part of our lives. Joe has been a reporter for a small town station. Joe has trained people to sing on cruise ships. Joe has remarkably white teeth that border on radioactive. None of this resume filler save Joe’s performance for Simon, who pans it, likening to that of – you guessed it! – a cruise ship singer. Joseph insists that he’s not a cruise ship singer. “I trained cruise ship singers! And I’m so much more! Like a reporter for a small station in Texas!” After a little bickering, Joseph flat out asks Simon what he’s looking for. “Not you.” “Well. That was…succinct.” And now Joseph will be forced to be used every ounce of his charm to cheer up the sizable contingent he brought with him. Hopefully somebody in that group brought a sign that reads, “It’s okay, Joseph! We still like you!” On another note, what exactly does training cruise ship singers entail, anyway? “Okay, here’s the stage in this room. And the microphone is right there. Oh, and the ship leaves the dock at 8am. Um, I guess that’s about it then.”

Maybe if Joseph was more like Justin Smith, who came straight from his job at the car wash to audition. I assume he’ll be singing a Rose Royce song then. Justin vows that he will “secede”, which I guess means he wants to separate himself from the show. Shouldn’t take long.

After that, let’s all take a deep breath and refocus ourselves, shall we? We need to prepare for Aa’shia (seriously) Jackson, who goes by the street name Li’l Tomboy. Aa’shia bursts into the room in full rap mode. Wait, was one of those lyrics “Leave the slaves in a bacon place?” That is supa dupa fly! But Aa’shia, who didn’t sing “Aisha”, makes it on to the next round. Dreams do come true! Maybe not the dreams of Aa’shia’s mom though, who thinks her daughter will sell more records than anyone of all time.

That can’t happen, because I think Maurice Thomas will hold that title for the next 1,000 years. Because Maurice (who should bill himself as the black Tobias Funke) is awe-some. The pleated pants. The ill-fitting suit. The natty mustache. The super high voice. It’s all workin’, baby! But…Maurice gets rejected, which he can’t believe.

So what about Jeremy? His vocal coach is good enough. His blazer is good enough, so he won’t need that standard Idol makeover if he makes the finals. Unfortunately, his voice is not good enough. And after being cut, his life is not good enough. Angel, trying to put a brave face on things, breaks down in tears. Jeremy seems pretty okay with the whole thing, but Jeremy is inconsolable. Is this how English teachers get when they find former students working in a factory? “I’m a failure as a teacher!”

And then there was Adam and Dirk, two social misfits who bonded over their shared awkwardness. Killing time by discussing the deleted scenes on the Return of the King DVD and by figuring out which girls are less likely to give them basic human affection, Adam and Dirk quickly became friends for the ages. Then they both quickly bombed out of American Idol. But not before showing America one of the most awkward hugs in the history of the world.

So that’s another successful jaunt through an American town! Seacrest! Out! Oh. Hmm. I really thought we were finished with that last year. He did get rid of some things last year, but not that, I guess. Hey, he’s the one on TV, not me, so what do I know?

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Scott, thanks for posting those recaps. Pretty funny writing! I totally got the idea.

I guess things will be different this year when they get into the next round, like they're going to separate the men and women. I'm going to watch when I can, and miss it when I have to. Maybe my family will tape the show when I'm not home. No biggie. I've thought about hosting AI nights at my house, but decided not to go to the fuss. It'll be fun to post about it here, though!

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I thought Simon was ridiculous with his "you're fat" comments to people who weren't even "fat", but more "healthy", like those Triplets.

Could someone remind him of the 400-plus pound winner of AI Season 2? And I didn't see anyone calling Angel-- the music teacher who made it through-- fat. So it's okay for SOME people to be fat but not for others?


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Simon has always been insensitive and pretty darn intolerant of people's body shapes. Especially considering his co-hosts. Paula Abdul is a former bulemic and Randy Jackson was so large he had the gastric bypass surgery.

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Which reminds me. Did the heavy set girl he didn't like win the British Idol? I never heard the outcome of that one.

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Michelle? Yep, she did. Release done single and then disappeared into oblivion again. Shame, because she had a good voice. No personality though...

I think the thing with Simon and eight is that if someone is just a little overweight he sees it as being a marketing problem, whereas if they're very big then it's not. He actually explained it a lot more in the last Pop Idol here in the UK and unfortunately he has a point. If someone is very big then people, more often than not, praise them for being happy with their size, whereas if someone is just a little overweight all they get is criticism for their weight. It's very unfair (and is much more true of women than men) but on a purely financial, marketing level he has a point and you have to bear in mind that that's the side of things that Simon is approaching them from. He's not always looking for the best singer, he's looking for the best overall package. That includes personality and looks as well as the voice, and it's a harsh business. That doesn't excuse some of the comments he makes (or the way he makes comments) but it does explain *why* he thinks that way. Actually in Pop Idol here he actually fought for the two very large girls to get through to the final ten so it's not his main criteria for picking people.

All that being said, we had an AI4 marathon on Friday night with four episodes (I think) shown back to back. The good singers were... well, underwhelming but that's not what the audition shows are about since you know you'll get to see the really good ones later on anyway. The auditons are about the *bad* ones.

And by golly gosh there were some bad ones. You know, I thought from previous series of Pop Idol and American Idol series that the standard in the US was much better than here (granted there are more people to choose from, but...) only from these audition shows it's also clear that while there might be more good singers in the US there are also a lot more really, really bad ones too. Plus even more complete loons. Highlights were the *real* loon (Mary?) with the voices in her head. OK, so she was really, genuinely scary (and seriously mentally ill if she wasn't taking the piss) but her singing style was just... bizarre. I mean, the bizarrest singing voice ever. But undoubtedly one of the highlights of telly so far this year. And then there was the guy who nearly made Paula spit her drink across the room. He he he. That made us laugh.

Actually, is it just our imagination or are the judges being much more obvious this year? By that I mean are they much more openly laughing at people? Even Paula seemed pretty bad this time around and didn't defend people nearly as much. The whole conversation about the girl geting voice over work as a cartoon rat was obviously the three of them just going off on one and ignoring the poor girl completely (OK, she was bad, but...). Didn't they got told off last series for laughing too much at people? Or was that just one of those stories that you hear that aren't actually true?


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I saw that too. The judges being more blatant in their insults. And I guess this week it gets worse. They (at least Paula and Randy) are actually going to get up and walk out according to the previews.

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Well, since this is the fourth year they've been doing this, bad auditioners should expect to get such treatment. It's not like it's new.

I'm amazed that some of these people think they should get on this show. Do they really think they're as good as Kelly or Ruben or Fantasia? Or even the second and third place, heck, top 10 contestants? My wife always says she thinks they're just trying to get on tv for being bad.

Bevis, I actually agree with you about the singers' size. Ruben and Frenchie are large people with great talent, so taking them as they are works. Kimberly, from last year, actually started slimming down and got the make-over, and it really helped her. She's very talented, and her cool new look made her more appealing.

I personally look a lot better when I shed a few pounds. I've known larger people who've lost weight, and it seems like they lost some of their character, too. It's weird.

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Yeah, I know what you mean Dean. It's almost a case of being either or, either you're slim (or at least not overweight) or you're really big for it to work, at least in terms of being in the public eye. Being that little bit overweight can be a millstone round someone's neck. Not true of 'real' life, but certainly in the music biz.

I also wonder about some of these people's ideas about their own voices. They seem absolutely convinced that they're great despite all the evidence to the contrary. OK there are some who are just OK, not really bad but not really good either, who you can imagine are a little more confident than maybe they should be. And there are some, like the boxer girl, who have the potential to be really good but need a lot of singing lessons to be really good (and therefore don't really have enough time to get to the level they need to be over the length of the series). And then there are those ones that say that everyone they know thinks they're great but who clearly wouldn't know a well pitched note if it bit them on the arse. It also begs the question, why are other people telling them they're good when they're so clearly not? Are all their friends and families delusional as well? Or are they just humouring them? I so don't get it. Over protective parents might have something to answer for, seeing no possible faults in their children, but that can't account for everyone who is awful but thinks they're great. They all seem so incredibly shocked when they crash and burn. Often times even when the judges aren't particularly rude, just very blunt with them. Surely they must be able to hear themselves? I mean, I know I can sing if I'm pitched exactly right (I have to be given the note before I can even start) but even then I know I'm not great. I can hold a tune but I have problems with pitching. I know it's something I'm not great at (I love singing, just not in public) but you can't be good at everything. These people who think they're the next best thing but can't sing a note really need a reality check. And as such if they do get torn down by the judges I don't have much sympathy for them. They put themselves forward, they went on national TV and made fools of themselves well before the judges started on them.

And then on the flip side you have people like Angel or the blonde country singer girl (or the likes of Fantasia and Diana to a degree) who *can* sing but are quite self-effacing about it and don't brag or crow about their ability. They know they're good, they have the confidence to be able to sing in front of the judges but they don't cover up any imperfections with bravado. It's all very odd.


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Yeeps! Only 16 fron New Orleans made the cut? So much for my prediction that this year's winner will come from there!

I think my favorite was the Christian guy who sang "In The Still of the Night".

One thing I was glad to see was Randy and Paula walk out when Gene Simmons' vote was allowed to override theirs on that second set of twins. That sucked ASS, and I'm glad they walked! I personally don't feel the guest-judge's vote should carry the weight to keep someone out over Paula and Randy's "Yes". Obviously, they agree!

But apparently those twins (or one of them at least) shows up tomorrow night in Las Vegas or something...?


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I missed Tuesday's show! Thanks for a couple highlights, Lash.

Bevis,
Being nervous has a lot to do with some of those auditions. Sometimes a very good singer will just mess up because they're nervous. The antedote to that is training, of course, and practice. Practice in front of people.

My wife and I are both good singers, she was well trained and I go to karaoke a lot, so we both have a decent amount of experience. She gets nervous in front of people, but her training, along with her natural nice sound, can get her through a song. I love to be onstage, in front of people, and I have a decent voice, but I'm not totally confident in my skills. I get nervous about that. Singing as a career isn't either of our dream, though. Neither of us currently take voice lessons or have recitals or rehearsals. We just do it for fun at parties or at the bar. Yes, that would imply that a little *liquid* courage is often involved!

I think that is what happens to a lot of the people who audition for AI. They're normally good, but get nervous and lose it in front of Simon and gang (and the cameras). Some of them have NO excuse, though. They're just jokers.

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And only 22 from Las Vegas made the cut to Hollywood! These numbers are really getting low, man!

Early favorite: the big girl who sang the Alicia Keys song. Not even Simon dared call her fat, although Kenny Loggins did state there were image issues. We'll see what the Hollywood stylistscan do with her, though.

And I was SOOOOOO glad one of those twins rejected last night auditioned again! YEAH, BABY! Eat it Gene Simmons, you blood-spittin' wanker! Hoo-HAH! He's going to HOLLYWOOD, in spite of you!

And that Vasquez guy was a TOTAL HOTTIE! Rico Suave, baby! Dee-lish!


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