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I suppose Bobby showing up in Pam's shower a year after his death on Dallas has to qualify as a pretty shocking moment, however lame the eventual explanation for it next season turned out to be.

Oh yeah, an entire season relegated to a dream is the very essence of shitty jump the shark moments! As I recall, the explanation leaked long before it actually aired, I'd guess purposefully so as to lessen the outrage to its impact in advance.

The amazing thing is how they had to screw over a years worth of development in the lives of all of their other characters just to bring him back!

*poof*

It's funny to me that when The Newhart show did it in their last episode...very last scene...I thought it was freakin hilarious.

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I re-watched the first 2 eps of season 2 last night.

the herd on the highway scene is so up there with any big-screen zombie film!

It was a mistake for Rick to ever leave terrified Sophia... better he kept her with him, since he could have had her hide in a tree ahead of him while he "stoned" the 2 walkers.

The church zombie scene intrigued me... the 2 male zombies moved to attack the gang, but the female zombie looked more terrified than anything and made no move to attack. Very interesting, best not to dwell on it, as surely she would have tried to attack sooner or later.

First scene at the Greenes, we do see that boy and one of the unnamed blonde-haired girls along with Patricia and Maggie.

I thought it was weird that those zombies were just sitting in the pews at the church as if waiting for service to begin. Like they "remembered" their previous lives.

Reminded me of Morgan's wife-zombie returning to their house every night, trying to get in.

I don't think I like the idea of the zombies having some sort of memory of their lives.

This was also hit on in the very first episode, when the little girl walker stops to pick up a doll. It does seem like a very very select few zombies do have that memory of previous life... which makes their situation all the more horrific for me.

I think it is effective as a way to garner a kind of sympathy for the zombies from the viewer, but don't think it is very "realistic" (I know, I know, what part of this IS realistic?)...

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You've sold me with your NotLD example... also I remember them gathering at the mall in DotD was referred to as some remembered force of habit, or something similar...

This also helps explain why that enormous mass of zombies had not wandered off from the High School FEMA shelter in the 2nd episode.

Yeah, the acting out stuff from their previous lives is a pretty standard zombie trope. Isn't their a scene in one movie where a zombie finds a razor and starts shaving its flesh off?

Re-watched the 3rd and 4th episodes last night:

Shane and Otis were in a DIRE SITUATION. Zombies at every turn... there's no doubt. HOWEVER...

Shane indeed make a bad and unnecessary and needlessly cruel judgement call in shooting Otis.

At the time he decided to shoot Otis, they were quite a distance ahead of the zombies, and there's no reason NOT to think they BOTH could have made it to the truck had they continued the pace they were keeping. Shane's shooting Otis in fact very nearly doomed them both!

The well zombie plot... pure filler. No sane person would ever dare drinking that water again after removing that hideous waterlogged zombie.

Herschel and Dale are both fascinating characters... Herschel has a way of delivering his lines that I find both soothing and slightly annoying. And Dale, it is becoming apparent that he likes to run things in secret... quietly doing little things here and there in secret mastermind fashion.

Dale kind of gets on my nerves. Way too nosy and meddlesome. I know the writers want us to sympathize with him as the conscious of the show, but somehow that makes him more annoying. But he is necessary to the show, if only to stir the pot.


As for the zombies acting out stuff they used to do while alive... I dunno. I'll get used to it, I guess. I think I'm comparing the show too much to the comic. It bugged me when the zombies ran and used tools (the brick to smash the window) in Atlanta, too. I need to accept the show has it's own set of rules...

I've enjoyed this season much more by doing just that... Comic? WHAT comic?

The next 2 episodes...

Carol's finest moment was telling Darryl hs is every bit as good as Rick and Shane. I'd love to see them as a couple- but do NOT think it is going to happen, which is going to devestate me (and Carol).

The courtship -or whatever- of Glenn and Maggie is wonderful to watch... I *love* Maggie.

Shane & Andrea? Super! Perhaps my two least-favorite characters can go riding off into the sunset together!

Darryl coming out of his Merle hallucination to the reality of a zombie biting its way up his boot toward flesh is still one of the scariest moments for me on re-watch (and then, here comes another one from the woods!!)

Some truly intense scenes with Shane and Dale when Dale calls him out on Otis... Shane is bobbing and weaving like the snake in Rikki Tikki Tavi and Dale is his mesmerized terrified prey. Good stuff.

These are Herschel's 'peeps': Maggie (who is well-known), Patricia (older blonde from the operation scenes and gathering chickens for the barn-geeks)), Jimmy (young -and VERY cute- boy who offers to help look for Sophia, Unnamed young blonde girl (if they gave her a name, I missed it-- she appears most during the "gun training" scene, along with Jimmy), and then Otis (r.i.p.)

With that small a staff, it is no wonder Herschel -despite his misgivings- was coming around to letting them stay on... that's a BIG-ass farm to run.

Have just caught up with the fantastic latest two episodes of the The Walking Dead... but before I discuss them I just want to make a quick comment about some other discussions in this thread -

I'm not cool with all the spoilers to other shows that people have been dropping. Fortunately for me, I've seen most of those shows (except American Horror Story but either those posts didn't reveal too much or else I managed to scan my eyes past them in time) but anyone who hasn't seen LOST for example (and here I'm thinking mainly of MLLASH but there are probably others) will have had some of the best moments of that show spoiled here in this unrelated thread.

Anyway, complaint over - back to TWD.

*AMAZING* ending! Devastating! Heart-breaking! Powerful! I *DID NOT* see it coming at all! And it made the so-called "slow" search-for-Sophia storyline of the season all worth it with this incredible climax.

Shane is such a dickhead! I still really like the character but they're definitely pushing him into villain territory now. I predict the event that ends the first TPB to occur at the end of this season now.

Dale's actions seemed a little weird in this last episode. What was he hoping to accomplish by hiding the guns? They still need them right? And his sudden suspicion that Shane killed Otis seemed a little unfounded based on what the character knows (compared to what the audience knows). I didn't buy that whole confrontation.

A writer at the AV Club was complaining that not enough main characters get killed off in this show. They believe that the zombies need to make more kills in order for us to believe the threat. I could not disagree more! I almost had to check that Dan Didio isn't moonlighting as a writer there! The kills need to be sparse and shocking IMO so that when they do happen they have an impact. Like this emotional ending for Sophia. It wouldn't have been the same punch to the gut if T-Dog, Daryl and Maggie (for example) had all died in recent episodes.

I'm curious to see where the show goes from here now. Obviously Hershel will want them off his farm after this incident but I can't see any reason why he would want to go with them. (I disagree that the farm would now be any more overrun with zombies than it was before because all the zombies from the barn are now dead.) I'm looking forward to seeing them back on the road again though and God-help-me but I'm actually looking forward to seeing Michonne introduced too. Fingers-crossed I like her more here than I do in the comic.

Can't wait for the rest of the season.

I do plan to watch LOST one of these days but haven't let any LOST discussion 'sink in'; I just skim over it usually. I have no idea who any of the LOST characters are...

re: American Horror Story, there's no hard spoilers in this thread, and definitely DO watch when you can- it's pretty badass for the most part!!

You remind me, I never did re-watch the final episode... I will do that today and report back!

^ I definitely plan on catching up on AHS at some point. My sister is very into it and keeps recommending it to me too.

IS IT FEBRUARY YET?!?!

Full series marathon on the 31st...

From Entertainment Weekly's site... I'm not sure how much of any of this is true- esp. since the writer makes some leaps like referring to TWD as Darabont's "creation"- but it certainly is interesting.

Read what ALMOST was the Season 2 opening episode of TWD:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/01/09/frank-darabont-walking-dead-season-2-plan/

I read about that...it would have been interesting, if not a distraction from the main story.

Revised credits may give a clue to the new direction of the show:

http://www.movieweb.com/tv/TVhRXkhqQE3nlj/season-2-alternate-title-sequence

Now that...that was awesome!!!

The 1 week countdown has begun!