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Favorite Volume of the Legion of Super Heroes!
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Pick your favorite series entitled "Legion of Super Heroes"!

Pick Your Favorite Volume of LSH!
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Volume 1 (Brief Reprint Series) (3%, 1 Votes)
Volume 2 (Used to be Superboy Vol. 1) (34%, 13 Votes)
Volume 3 (Baxter Series) (21%, 8 Votes)
Volume 4 (Five Years Later plus Early Reboot) (42%, 16 Votes)
Volume 5 (Threeboot) (0%, 0 Votes)
Volume 6 (Levitz's 3rd Run, Part 1) (0%, 0 Votes)
Volume 7 (Levitz's 3rd Run, Part 2, DCnU)) (0%, 0 Votes)
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Voting on this poll ends: 09/25/13 02:06 PM
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Eryk Davis Ester #784860 08/25/13 03:09 PM
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Thought this would be a fun topic!

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Eryk Davis Ester #784861 08/25/13 03:17 PM
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As much as I love the post Superboy and Baxter runs, the one I always go back to is the 5 Year Later version. So much happening there to sift through...at least until the Legion on the run stuff.


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Eryk Davis Ester #784864 08/25/13 03:45 PM
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To me, it's Baxter all the way! Fatal Five/Sensor Girl Saga, The Universo Project, the LSH/LSV War, Greg La Rocque, Steve Lightle, Tellus, Quislet...hoo boy, what fun!

Or at least the first 45 issues.

It started to go bad with Conspiracy, and then Giffen came back permanently. Yuck.


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Totes Baxter. The Universo Project is hands-down my favorite story arc, although the LSV war, and Brin's visit to Lythyl and the introduction of the new 5 (including Sensor Girl and Tellus and Polar Boy!) made for some interesting characterization shake up and stand out as well.

Although, for 2 glorious issues, Superboy's Legion also made my day, as a sort of 'mini-continuity' all its own.



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I went with Volume 2, a book that owed its very existence to the loyalty and persistence of the fans that refused to let the Legion die in the early 1970s.

Of course the highlight of the volume was the Great Darkness Saga (generally considered the high point of the Legion's entire 55-year history), but there were plenty of other memorable storylines as well, including Cham's suicide mission to Khundia (and its ramifications for so many characters), the confusing but nonetheless interesting Reflecto Saga, the classic Legion 300 and several spotlight issues on individual members.

Yeah, there were some dogs in there as well (Space Circus of Death and Omen come immediately to mind), but overall the volume was the Legion at its peak, both in quality and popularity.


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Eh. I feel like my memory's too hazy to vote on this, especially since I don't have the books in front of me.

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I haven't voted yet, but I'm currently leaning towards Vol. 2. Even thought it starts out with weaker stories, it is probably the only one that really got better as time went by.

Vol. 1 would totally win if the stories it reprinted were actually favorites from the Adventure Era! Of course, it's also got the Tommy Tomorrow backups, which I've never read...

Despite a few solid stories, Vol. 3 is just too depressing overall, with the whole team basically falling apart throughout it. Plus the annoying number of deaths in the series.

Vol. 4 is weighed down by some of the more negative aspects of 5YL, plus some of the crappier reboot era stories (Team 20... yuck!)

The rest... well they aren't really serious candidates, imo!

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Here's an odd thought: after writing the post above it occurred to me that the entirety of volumes six and seven remind me of the Omen story. I wonder why that is?

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It was somewhat close between V3 and V4, but I had to go with V4 because I just loved the hell out of the 5YG! I've never been as on the edge of my seat reading LSH each month as I was in that run. Lots of really good reboot stuff happened in V4 as well. (Psst! There were parts of "Team 20" I liked! ElasticLad )


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Volume 4 was a real oddity in that it was, in many ways, three different books. There was the 5YG run, which pretty much ended when the Earth blew up, the end of an era period, including the much-hated Legion on the Run sequence, and finally the reboot, including the Blight stories that led into Legion Lost.

Each of those three were wildly different from each other, making it difficult to vote for that volume.

Although I thought the 5YG stuff was very well crafted, it was ultimately harmful to the franchise itself, as it replaced the idea of a universe where good was the norm and the bad guys were aberrations that the Legion was there to counteract with a universe that was actually quite depressing (and the legion itself quite ineffective). As I feel that operating in a positive future is an integral part of what the Legion is all about, I have to put the 5YG stuff in the minus column.

I actually consider the first couple years of the reboot to be among the best Legion books ever, but I preferred the Manga influenced Jeff Moy art in Legionnaires to Lee Moder's exaggerated stylings in the main book, and some of the other artists that worked on the book after Moder left were just awful, IMO. Plus, although there were a couple decent 20th century stories in the issues leading up to #100, I am, and have always been, against having Legionnaires interact with present-day characters. My main reason for this is that Legionnaires have always been allowed to grow as characters, while DC's present-day characters are, for marketing reasons, static entities who are forced to undergo periodic retcons to remain relevant. The two just don't mix well.

And then there was the post-5YG era in which the Legion was floundering around waiting for the reboot to happen. The less said about that period the better.


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The fact that they didn't relaunch the book with the reboot has to be among the most absurd things in the history of franchise. That's one of the things I was curious about when I started the poll, whether it would get the combined votes from 5YL and Reboot era fans, or to what extent would fans dislike for those eras influence their vote. Meanwhile, Levitz has his work split over no less than four volumes now!

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I may be the only one who votes for Volume 1. Those were the first few Legion stories I read, and so this series remains a sentimental favorite. How can you go wrong with "The Lad Who Wrecked the Legion" (# 1), "The War Between Krypton and Earth" (# 2), and "The Weirdo Legionnaire" (# 4) as your introduction to the Legion? (I missed "Computo the Conqueror" (# 3) when it came out.)

Plus, the reprint series contained text features summarizing the Legionnaires and some of their other adventures. These features are probably what made me truly fall in love with the Legion--hinting at characters I had yet to meet and stories I had not read. It was like discovering my family had a history before I came along.


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Yay! I'm glad someone did vote for it!

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I was surprised you didn't at least split V4 between the 5YL and Reboot stuff.


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Curious to see if ANYone votes for 5, 6 or 7.... hmmm


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Originally Posted by Dev - Em
I was surprised you didn't at least split V4 between the 5YL and Reboot stuff.


Well, Dev, DC didn't, so neither did Edie! nod


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I understand that, but I think everyone would have accepted that there were two distinct things happening there. Kind of V4 and V4.5

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Originally Posted by Dev - Em
I understand that, but I think everyone would have accepted that there were two distinct things happening there. Kind of V4 and V4.5

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Sure, there were! But don't hate--it is what it is! tongue

And technically V2 doesn't cover the "Superboy starring..." and "Superboy and..." years! shrug


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And, oh yeah, there are some feebs on the LSH FB page that want to split the Threeboot issues before and after the "Supergirl and..." retitling into separate volumes! shake


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There's actually people who care about the Threeboot that much? confused


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What's even funnier is that Mark Waid still defends the Threeboot, saying it didn't succeed because DC went all-retro just as it was launching.

Uh...no, Mark, it was a bad idea from the get-go. Simple as that.

Disclaimer: I'm generally a Mark Waid fan, but I'm still bitter that he effed up so badly...and that he ended the reboot continuity.


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I voted for Vol 2 mainly for Paul's 1st & 2nd runs. If there was an option to vote for a 2nd choice I would have picked the 5YG.

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Originally Posted by Paladin
And, oh yeah, there are some feebs on the LSH FB page that want to split the Threeboot issues before and after the "Supergirl and..." retitling into separate volumes! shake


The Waid and Shooter 'halves' do have a pretty strong tonal shift, as different in their own way as DnA and Giffen.

And I'd pick either half of the Threeboot over that five years later run any day of the week. smile

I liked a lot about the Reboot, but 5YG was, IMO, just terrible, so those two eras being stuck in a single choice means that I won't be picking it.




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