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Keye Luke, who voiced Charlie Chan in the Chan Clan cartoon, was the only actor of Chinese ancestry to play the character.

Jackie Chan had a cartoon of his own once. He had a plucky niece (I think) called Jade.

Jade, of course, is also the name of one of the most awesome DC heroines introduced in the 80s.

Jade's brother, Obsidian, was treated badly for years. Finally, he was romantically matched to Damon Matthews in Manhunter, which brings the character to happiness for the first time. Dumb ol' New 52, of course, ended that.

Heretical as it may seem to some people, I didn't like the way two other Infinitors, Lyta and Hector, were treated by Neil Gaiman in Sandman.

There can be only one...Sandman!* Poor old Hec didn't stand much of a chance there. If only he had taken on the mantle of the Red Torpedo. Then he and Lyta would have been safe.

*and that's Wesley.

Amen to that. Love Wesley and Dian.

Go Wes! I always liked his fedora and mask look myself.

And yes, poor Lyta and Hector didn't have an easy time in Neil Gaiman's Sandman either...

Agreed. Wesley's fedora, gas mask, and coat were positively iconic!

Certainly a lot better than his boring purple-and-gold spandex look.

I miss him and the rest of the JSA. I can't understand why DC would want to throw away almost 80 years of continuity.

I was perplexed as well. It's not like the current continuity was a mess.

Simply put, many new readers are either too lazy to look up older history or just don't care about it anyway so DC decided to alienate older fans to chase after that new demographic.

Can we blame the trend of shortened attention spans and instant gratification?

Funny thing is when I was a kid, you had to rely on reprints and what few print resources there were to learn about continuity, but we still managed. Now, you can call up the history of the DC Multiverse in ridiculous detail with a few keystrokes and clicks.

It's the changing times. People now are getting lazier and more entitled.

Admittedly, some parts of the old continuity had reached the point where disbelief could no longer be suspended. Particularly , the JSAers all having been born in the 1910s and having children apparently not born till about 1980, the Infinitors having joined the "sliding timeline" of their contemporaries.

That WAS odd, though I think they explained it decently well with the "trapped in Limbo fighting Ragnarok" thing. And there was another explanation, which I forgot. But Extant commented on them being too young for their age in Zero Hour.

It would have been a lot easier to suspend disbelief about them if they hadn't had kids.

I never really had a problem with the JSA continuity problems. I just accepted the sliding time scale reasoning and just rolled with.

The slowed aging of the JSA was explained primarily from absorbing chronal energies during a battle with Ian Karkull in 1941 (per an All-Star Squadron annual).

Now Hawkgirl was born no later than 1920, because she was at least 20 (if not older) in 1940. An early Infinity issue stated that Hector Hall, Carter and Shiera's son, was born in 1963. Having a baby at 43 was considered kind of risky in 1963, but was not unheard of, and certainly that Shiera's aging was slowed didn't hurt.

Fast forward to the JSA series a few years back. Discounting Hector's death and resurrection, he was still considered to have been a contemporary of the other Infinitors, who were all no more than 30. That would put Hector's birth around 1980, when his mother was about 60.

In those instances, I just naturally assumed that Hawkgirl had either been born later or had slowed her aging even more than she already had, Like Braal Janitor, I just accepted it.

I'm sure one of the reasons that they had poor ol' Hec die and come back so many times and had Hawkgirl stuck in the body of her grandniece Kendra was so no one would try to figure out how she could have had a baby at that age!

Maybe that's why they gave Wildcat nine lives and had him lose eight of. So none of us would wonder why he is still such a good fighter at that age.

Jay Garrick (Speed Force), Alan Scott (Starheart) and Carter Hall (reincarnation) all had additional explanations for ther youth in that series. One thing I did not like were references to Wildcat being original JSAer, when he served as one very briefly in the '40s, several years after its founding.

This thread actually has more to do with comic books than any other thread here ever!!