Pick your top 25 favorite Legionnaires of all time!

Note on the list of characters:

I tried to list everyone who has been a member in a regular, ongoing version of the Legion (including the preboot/5YL, postboot, threeboot, animated, and retroboot), excluding members who joined under false pretenses*, but including honorary members. I left out people who were only members in possible futures, such as the Adult Legion [sorry, Luthor V fans!], Legends of the Dead Earth, or Legion 1,000,000. Generally I didn't separate out versions of characters by continuity, except when they are significantly altered (basically, Jeckie/Sneckie). Please tell me if I've left somebody obvious out.


*Because someone will probably ask, Nemesis Kid gets included because of his non-traitorous membership in the animated series).

Crap! Somehow I left off Luornu, Drura and Pete!

Er... feel free to vote for Triplicate Girl, Infectious Lass or Porcupine Pete by posting in the thread!

You missed Luorno Durgo aka Duplicate Damsel on the list. I would have voted for her if she were included.

23 votes on poll + Drura and Lu

Great fun indeed and surprisingly hard finding 25 members I actually like. There are loads I do not dislike or have no strong opinion one way or another but like? That was tricky.

I got about a dozen really quickly, and then had to think about which of the ones I'm generally positive towards but aren't faves I should pick.

Oh, and votes from me to Dru and Lu as well.

*glare* Dru and Lu from me, for SURE. I will vote 23 others in the poll proper.

YAY, no votes so far for ___________ and _________, who as everyone knows, are the two worst Legionnaires EVER!

Can I vote 25 times for Dream Girl.

Ultra Boy and Star Boy most popular so far? who knew?

I did not vote for 25 characters. I simply voted for those that I consider faves.

Add one more for Drura.

I voted for 24, and would also like to vote for Luornu!

There's at least three others I'd love to have voted for, but I ran out of votes long before I ran out of favorites!

I voted for 23 and will add a write-in vote for Luornu and someone else I didn't see on the list - Ral Benem (Chlorophyll Kid). He was a member/honorary member right?

I just realized I forgot to vote for Tellus too. He would have knocked Crystal Kid off my list.

Jeepers! I missed Ral too? He's on the membership list I was using right before Pete and Drura, so I apparently just skipped over all three.

WHAT A CALAMITY !!!

This poll is EDE's Titanic!

Bah! I totally remembered Blood Claw, Dream Boy, Earth Man, and Harmonia!

Think of all the votes Earth Man stole from Infectious Lass!

I notice one E. Davis Ester AKA Calamity King was not forgotten like poor Dru and Lu were. I'm not feeling so bad for Pete, no one would have voted for him anyway

"COTA-S2012ST25FVP"


I wonder if EDE will be too embarrassed to return to Legion World tomorrow ?

I voted for 24 plus Duo Damsel

Voted for 24 and Duo Damsel

I voted 22 off the board, plus I'll add Drura and Luornu as well!

Leaving Drura and Lu off the poll was SO EDE's evil plan, to get us all to sympathy vote for them!

23 + Lu and Drura!

Umm, 25 + Drura?

And I didn't see Lamprey or Power Boy or Gravity Kid, did I?
I guess I'd better check.
sigh

Nope, didn't see them, however, I DID see Pete Ross.

I'm pretty sure those three have never officially been Legionnaires (except Power Boy in the Adult Legion, which I didn't count).

Wasn't Lamprey part of the team during the Khund war?
I thought that she and Crystal Kid and Nightwind were killed or something.

But, yes, Gravity Kid was just in the Academy.

I got carried away with my remembering.
lol

It's funny how after only 24 voters, there isn't a single Legionnaire that everyone can agree should be in at least the top 25.

Arrgh! Also just noticed I missed seeing Thunder on the list.

Nightwind was killed while she and Lamprey were instructors at the UP Militia Academy. Crystal Kid would later join said Academy as an instructor after the Earth blew up.

Jo, Cham and Shady are taking it away!

Ha, even Earth Man and Dream Boy have votes, but Atmos remains voteless. Creep.

Three of the people I voted for still only have a single vote. My tastes remain confined strictly to my mouth, I see.

*GLARE* Next you'll tell me Harmonia has votes.

I wonder how many of Tasmia's votes are for Umbra, rather than Shadow Lass?
Mine is for Umbra, anyway.


And Set - did you vote for Sizzle?
I came so close to voting for her.

Weren't Chuck and Lu part of that group?
I've always thought that the team there was an underground part of the Legion.

I totally voted for Sizzle. And Turtle and Dream Boy, too. I like the mutts!

any time, Candle!

Count me in with the Drura and Luornu votes.

Mine too!

As of 33 voters, only 7 Legionnaires made it to 20 or more votes;
Phantom Girl, Chameleon Boy, Ultra Boy, Shrinking Violet, Dream Girl, Element Lad and Shadow Lass. That'd be an interesting line up!

(With write-ins, Lu got 11 and Drura got 8, so they don't make the 20+ club.)

And poor Conner/Superboy still has less votes than Flederweb!

If I'm counting correctly, there's 24 characters with 14 or more votes, with another 3 at 13. Only one character created post-1980 is in that bunch.

Not surprised to see who the post-1980s character is, and I'm also very pleased that character is really a gem.

Also quite pleased to see another of my faves doing reasonably well at 12 votes, considering the character's newness.

Pleasantly surprised at Violet. She's not usually this popular!

This might probably change later, but I just HAD to post it -

Gates is ahead of not one, but TWO founders by one vote!

And Kinetix is tied with Sun Boy now, and is ahead of several preboot Legionnaires too!

Go and

I believe Zoe is currently part of a three-way tie for twenty-third position!

24 votes plus a write- in for Lu. It would be fun to run a poll of which versions people prefer for some of the longer serving (suffering?) legionnaires who've endured multiple reboots, re-imaginings etc. For example, I think Waid's Atom Girl and butt- kicking Dream Girl were awesome; the Silver Age incarnations not so much.

Yeah, it'd be interesting, but a nightmare trying to count versions of characters. Some of these guys change drastically from one writer to the next, while others seem to make it through complete reboots with minimal changes to the essential character.

That is extremely awesome, not just because Kinetix is my #1 fave. it's also because I've always known her to have a few diehard fans, but not many fans period. She always seemed such a polarizing character.

But lately she's been doing really well, even going on to win last year's Multiverse Legion Idol

I'm pretty sure Future did a poll some time ago asking us to choose between the Preboot, Postboot and Threeboot versions of some Legionnaires. i can't for the life of me find it, though. I've tried searching the terms "poll", "Legionnaire", "favorite", "multiverse" and "Boot" and it didn't turn up.

Sean, you might be interested in watching out for the Multiverse Survivor and Multiverse Idol games. Last year, Future ran Survivor and I did Idol. They both split the Legionnaires amongst versions.

The difference is that in Survivor, posters vote out the ones they dislike. In Idol, voters give points to the ones they like most.

You can check them out here -

Multiverse Legion Survivor
Multiverse Legion Idol

I'm thinking of making Idol an annual event.

Very true. Cosmic Boy, Colossal Boy, etc. tend to feel very similar from boot to boot, but Projectra, wow, she goes through some serious changes!

I would traditionally have thought her third most popular of the reboot characters, behind Gates and XS. I suspect the latter has suffered quite a bit due to her increasingly messy continuity over the past few years.

Maybe third-most popular of the Reboot-originals, but if we include the Reboot Legionnaires with Preboot versions she tends to slip further down the list.

Kinetix also has a lot of people who actively dislike her, which is why she tends to perform poorly in Survivor-style games as opposed to polls or Idol-style ones.

I wonder if there are any other readers like me out there who used to REALLY like Gates (he was probably one of my top 5 all-time favorite Legionnaires during most of the Reboot) but now don't care for him much. I actually didn't even include him in my top 25 list in this poll.

I think his personality, which used to feel so fresh and interesting in a Legionnaire, began to grate on me after awhile. I mean, there's only so long an anti-establishment/anarchic figure can be a part of the establishment before they start to seem like a hypocritical sell-out isn't there? Some writers have had a better handle on him than others but when he's written badly, he's written REALLY badly IMO.

My other two issues with him are 1) he doesn't seem right to me with the Preboot team (I would have rathered they just introduce the Preboot Gates than bring this one over); and 2) I HATE his recent ugly physical transformation in Legion Lost. I know I shouldn't really hold a crappy DCnU writer's poor decision-making against him but the look of a character is important to me, and I couldn't vote for him looking as stupid as he does now.

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Re: Kinetix - except for two things, I think she was actually one of the shining stars of the Reboot, and if those two things hadn't happened I'm sure she would have been higher on most people's lists. The 'journey' and character growth she experienced was great to watch. She was probably the most fun Legionnaire to read about and I imagine she probably would have been fun to write too. Which is why it's so unfathomable that they first made her a mute giant zombie after the Anomaly, and then when that story went nowhere, DnA did it AGAIN a few years later. They killed the character long before Geoff Johns did IMO.

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As for the other Reboot Legionnaires, I think they were all a success actually. XS and Magno I love and they were definite Top 25ers on my list and even Monstress, who I HATED throughout the PMS years , was totally redeemed and made a worthy, interesting Legionnaire under DnA.

I voted for 24, and would also like to vote for Luornu!

Gates has a classic case of 'ex-pat syndrome,' where someone from another culture or nation spends all of their time living somewhere else, and moaning endlessly about how much better things are back in the home country, which sort of begs the question, why the hell aren't they in their oh-so-wonderful home country, instead of whining about mine?

In the reboot, with Gates having been forced to go join a 'teenaged death squad' of aliens, his personality made a bit of sense. He didn't *volunteer* to leave his communist/socialist utopia behind and live among the heirarchical humanoids.

And with the destruction of his universe, and therefore his Vyrga, it also could have made sense that he would be the first of the Reboot Legion to jump ship to another universe, in hopes of finding another Vyrga, to which he can finally return. (The question of whether the classic continuity, or the Threeboot, for that matter, *has* a Vyrga has never been answered, though, and this notion, that Gates had a reason to leave his teammates and resettle in this new universe, was never addressed.)

Ultimately, had the Reboot universe continued, I'd expect Gates to have become so 'different' to his peers on Vyrga, due to his experiences as a Legionnaire and away from his people and their society, that he'd be an unwelcome stranger on Vyrga, and unable to ever truly re-assimilate, giving him a valid story reason to continue waxing philosophical about the glory days and his people and their ways, and yet be unable to ever really return, and be 'stuck' part of the Legion. (Sort of like Threeboot Luornu, seen as 'too changed' to ever truly be welcome back on her homeworld.)

But, really, we haven't see that, and if it was ever in the cards, the destruction of the Reboot universe pretty much threw that plan out the window...

That was difficult!

24 votes plus one for Lu for me as well.

Voted! And glad to see one other big Pete Ross fan gave him a vote too!

^ I was *just* about to make a post about how I'm the only Pete Ross fan at Legion World!

He's probably the most underrated supporting character in all of comicdom IMO.

Voted! Less than 24, since I've only been reading IB's Reboot Legion comics and don't know that many yet.

Please add a vote for Triad (Luornu) too!

YES!!!

TOTALLY agree!

Re the discussion on Gates, by the DNA era he seemed to really have considered the Legion his home. Before that, even - his friendship with Brainiac 5 started after the Anomaly.

I was really hoping Gates' development would take him further than that, and he'd come to change his strategy to working within the system, using its own resources, to do some good. Like with what I wrote here , with him starting a series of medical missions across the UP!

Incidentally, was Gates's homeworld a socialist utopia? The way I remembered it, he seemed as much an outcast there as in the Legion. I don't remember much about the issue where the Legion actually visits the planet to fight Mantis Morlo, though.

It was Legionnaires 45, and Gates was an outcast. It was mentioned that Gates was considered by his fellow Vyrgans as a bit of a pain and a troublemaker, and that almost all the other Vyrgans thought alike. Not quite a hive-mind, but they just had the same opinions on most things - hence a lack of innovation and creativity.

It is interesting how we sometimes tend to assign traits to animal-like aliens similar to those that we associate with that earth animal.

Dog-like aliens are loyal and clannish. Cat aliens are flirty and capricious. Bug aliens are inflexible and have a hive mentality. Snake aliens are treacherous bad-guys that hiss when they talk.

It could be fun to go against type, and have an alien that looks like an anthropomorphic dolphin or otter or something, an animal that we humans associate with 'friendly' and 'playful,' and have those aliens just be horrible dicks, or a terrifying looking poison-drooling fang-twitching spider-alien race that are total pacifists and a highly spiritual race, reknowned for their diplomatic skills.

That's one thing that I think Giffen excelled at with his aliens in the 80's.....a bunch of them looked quite monstrous but were the complete opposite; Circadia Senius, that guy whose name I forget from the Science Asteroid, etc...

Ooh, the one with all the tentacles, that had a little robot wet/dry-vac following him around slorping up his trail of slime? That was awesome.

So, there's like five more days left to vote!

We're just a few votes shy of fifty, so get to selecting some Legionnaires, ye undecided voters!

We are currently at fifty voters, with about 17 hours left to vote, by my calculatons!

RESULTS

Tinya Wazzo 36/72%

Jo Nah 36/72%

Salu Digby 35/70%

Reep Daggle 34/68%

Imra Ardeen 32/64%

Nura Nal 32/64%

Querl Dox 31/62%

Jan Arrah 31/62%

Tasmia Mallor 31/62%

Lyle Norg 27/54%

Thom Kallor 27/54%

Projectra 27/54%

Ayla Ranzz 26/52%

Ti'Julk Mr'Asz 25/50%

Rokk Krinn 24/48%

Brin Londo 24/48%

Garth Ranzz 23/64%

Chuck Taine 23/46%

Tenzil Kem 23/46%

Val Armor 23/26%

Dawnstar 23/46%

Gim Allon 22/44%

Lar Gand 22/44%

Drake Burroughs 21/42%

Blok 21/42%

Dirk Morgna 20/40%

Mysa Nal 20/40%

Condo Arlik 19/38%

Zoe Saugin 19/38%

Kara Zor-El 18/36%

Brek Bannin 17/34%

Jenni Ognats 17/34%

Shikari 16/32%

Luornu Durgo 15/30%***

Laurel Gand 15/30%

Ganglios 13/26%

Kent Shakespeare 13/26%

Jacque Foccart 12/24%

Quislet 12/24%

Jazmin Cullen 12/24%

Lydda Jath 12/24%

Andrew Nolan 11/22%

Rond Vidar 10/20%

Kal-El 8/16%

Sussa Paka 8/16%

Drura Sepht 8/16%***

Lana Lang 7/14%

Brita An'nan 7/14%

Xao Jin 7/14%

Candi Pyponte Le-Parc 7/14%

Grava 7/14%

Berta Sykes Harris 6/12%

Dag Wentim 6/12%

Danielle Foccart 6/12%

Ulu Vakk 5/10%

Celeste McCauley 5/10%

Bobb Kohan 4/8%

April Dumaka 4/8%

Veilmist 4/8%

I.Z.O.R. 4/8%

Giselle Smith 4/8%

Hadru Jamik 4/8%

Marya Pai 4/8%

Staq Mavlin 3/6%

Rhent Ustin 3/6%

Dyrk Magz 3/6%

Jeka Wynzorr 3/6%

Sandy Anderson 3/6%

Theena 3/6%

Rol Purtha 3/6%

Yera Allon 3/6%

Pete Ross 2/4%

Gnill Opral 2/4%

E. Davis Ester 2/4%

Devlin O'Ryan 2/4%

James Cullen 2/4%

Teela Spuunvll 2/4%

Glorth II 2/4%

Pol Krinn 1/2%

Stig Ah 1/2%

Myke Chyrpuz 1/2%

Flederweb 1/2%

Bart Allen 1/2%

CeCe Beck 1/2%

Bogdan Tarka 1/2%

Hart Druiter 1/2%

Kirt Nidrigh 1/2%

Harmonia Li 1/2%

Ral Benem 1/2%***

Jimmy Olsen 0/0%

Myg 0/0%

Marak Russen 0/0%

Myke-4 Astor 0/0%

Firefist 0/0%

Blood Claw 0/0%

Kon-El 0/0%

Kell-El 0/0%

Pete Dursin 0/0%***


Note *** indicates character was left off the original poll, and only received write-in votes, which I suspect seriously disadvantaged said characters. I'm also pretty sure Nam'Lor's hyper-aura is to blame.

<BAMF!!!>

Nam'Lor to blame for great many things.

Gates is at a nice 14th place, while Kinetix just misses the Top 25.

I blame Nam'lor for not letting Kinetix make the Top 25 too!

Interesting that Gates beat out Timber Wolf as the most popular Legion Lost Legionnaire. He's sure not marketed as the most popular member of the team in their current title. I'm also surprised how poorly Cosmic Boy and Lightning Lad did over all with them being 2 of the 3 founders.

Ayla beats Garth, whereas usually it's the other way around. And I'm pleasantly surprised at how high Violet is on this poll.