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And this is my rough draft Shadow Lass... I have always loved the laurel Kent poncho and felt that it was a shame that no one was using a version of it...

It would actually make sense to me if there were a heavy African (perhaps even Moorish) influence on Tyroc's costume.

Okay, so it turns out this costume designing thing really is hard, but here's my first two attempts at an Africanized Tyroc:

Matt - that Shadow Lass costume is *excellent*! Though I don't mind nearly-naked Tasmia I would love it if she started wearing that outfit instead!

EDE - Your designs for Tyroc are great too. I like your idea of making Tyroc's outfit more African-inspired. It would be a very fresh, different look for a DCU hero. The only other character I can think of who's worn something at all like that was Mal Duncan when he joined the Doom Patrol and became Vox. There was kind of a Bedouin kinda look going on there. Of your two, I prefer the second one 'cause its colours seem more Tyroc and I like the headdress but I think it could be streamlined a little to make fighting/flying more practical.

I too like the Shadow Lass' poncho style costume. It totally suits her. Good work Matt! Hopefully someone in DC PTB sees this and is inspired to create it (or close to it) for Shady in the near future. Anything beats her current Victoria's Secret battle armour.

Tyroc needs a better costume than the one in Legion #2, that's for certain. I'm just not sure that an African-esque design is the right way to go with his.

Oh, we're polar opposites here. I like Cinar's work on Saturn Girl's hair. She looks like she's just got a sensible no-nonsense thing going on. With Frank's style, with the gaunt cheekbones and hollow eyes, it looked like Imra was fresh out of chemotherapy... Even when Frank drew her smiling, she looked worn out and fragile, to me.

Cinar's Imra seems more like 'woman on the go.'

i just want action figures (dc direct are you listening) with legionnaires in each of their different costumes.

I like Cinar's version of Imra, myself.

And I don't think that Legionnaires have to wear combat armour, that we recognize as such nowadays, to be protected.

Way-back-when, there was industructable material.
(Used in their flag, no less!)

Too much armour would make their movements sluggish and their balance off.
But, some emphasis on costume practicality and what things are made of might help since their foes are out for blood.

I don't want any of them in long robes, but I think making them on the opposite end as sexual objects is just as wrong.
More so.

I can see how you make that comparison. To me, he used Imra's drastically differentiated features (in the flashback in 863 she has a much softer facial composure) to display the turmoil and stress of the Legion's predicament. But with Frank, it also was a tad more forward thinking as it played upon Farrow's hairstyle which was very radical for the time.


They seem rather similar to me, I think what I appreciate most about this hairstyle is the fact that is so different from the typical Super Hero. It's functional while still dynamic enough to be interesting. Also, I just went and looked up Cinar's take on Imra... it definitely wasn't as bad as I had thought it was. It actually is kind of cute.

Mia is totally hot in the picture. If Imra looked more like her and less like Skeletor, I would have been all for it!

Charlize Theron used to rock that sort of hairdo as well, IIRC. Wow, just was googling around to see if I could find a pic of it, and was swept away with what an amazing Imra she would be...

Charlize Theron is so stunning she could pull off any hairstyle, and yes, she would make the perfect Imra!

I think with Frank, the main problem would be her eyes. They seem to large for her face at times, which ends up making Imra look somewhat emaciated (okay very emaciated) but I still enjoy it for some reason?

Here's an original costume created by Curt Swan, I think, and drawn by our Sketch Lad.
I added a little keyhole in the middle of the star.

To me, this is appropriate and a little sexy but not a costume for sexy's sake.
She's covered but still very appealing.
Beauty Blaze is one of the most beautiful characters, like Quicksand, who is seldom used.
sigh
Sketch draws all females wonderfully, though.

She looks a lot better here than she did in Legion of 3 Worlds.

I knew that look was familiar.

Love that! When I was reading Legion of 3 Worlds I thought she seemed pretty interesting but I know very little about her. I definitely wouldn't mind for her to reappear wearing that costume.

She looks a lot different in Lo3W. Not in her powered up form, but when she looks human she actually looks like Shimmer used to from Teen Titans.

Here she is in her first appearance in the Adult Legion story that's such a classic:

Well that makes me look stupid...I instinctively assumed their was a poster named Swan. That is definitely different than the version we saw in Legion of 3 Worlds.

Ignore my ignorance!

My bad!
I'll edit my post so that people know that I'm talking about CurtSwan.

Oh, it's fine! It's more my stupidity than anything else.

Someone who needs a costume update might be Dream Girl.

It was awesome seeing her in Legion #2 and I'm glad she's back, but it was a bit of a let down seeing her in her old costume. It almost seemed boring compared to the updated costumes of this "new" Legion. I realize its a classic but almost everyone else has been given an updated costume so why not her?

I was kinda hoping that she'd show up wearing the threeboot Nura's threads (which to me is the finest costume for this character that I've seen so far!).
Perhaps threeboot Nura might have visited retroboot Nura in a dream or something (you know ... her power transcending all time/space realities) and inspire retro Nura to update her classic costume.

Well, I can Dream can't I?

Y'know, I wear steel-toed boots where I work, because the people who run the place ordered me to wear them. Before the upgraded safety rule took effect, the only rule about footwear was to wear a flat-soled, closed-toe shoe-- either a boot or an exercise shoe. I already owned several pairs of closed-toe leather workboots, so those were what I originally wore.

The steel-toed workboot provides more protection than does a plain closed-toe leather workboot. However, either type of boot provides more protection than a bare-toed shoe like a flip-flop would.

In short, I don't think your argument here holds water. Somebody with clothing covering most of their body is still going to be better protected on average than somebody who only has a few scraps of clothing over their naughty bits. IOW: less clothing in a combat-related situation comes across as less realistic, for the most part. It's pretty straightforward.

I thought the art was better this time around. I'm glad that Cinar (hope that's the correct spelling) doesn't draw the Legion as old and craggy as Gary Frank drew them. It is unfortunate that he's saddled with Gary Frank's uniforms though. I can't believe Frank had the audacity to change Cockrum's uniform for Lightning Lad. That is sacrilege! But I don't mind his update on Wildfire's encasing -- too much. While I don't think Drake would like his energy showing -- maybe Dawny does.

Tyroc's new look is okay. Certainly better than most of Frank's designs. I do think, though, that the book would be well-served by hiring a dynamic artist -- maybe from the sci fi world who could come up with some sleek, futuristic designs -- as well as tech for the Legion.

Frank went back to the Silver Age for inspiration -- big mistake. As much as I loved the Bronze Age outfits, I think it is time to move forward. Heck, I'll even concede that Garth could be due for something new -- but only if it's better than Cockrum's design. Frank's design isn't it.

You mean the Kitson version with clouds on the tights? Err... pass. I recall Adam Hughes drew a modern version of the classic in Legionnaires (pre reboot) that might be okay.

I'd also like to see Nura get a new look. The silver-blue or silver-red combo would be nice, but I think I'd pass on the Spears midriff. <span style="font-size: 11px;">Gah. So tired of seeing that everywhere.</span>