Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Didio out...what does this mean for Legion?

He had some hits, and he had some misfires. I haven't seen the sales on Legion, so I don't know how it's doing, but Bendis was a favorite of his. Wonder what direction changes, if any at all, will be made. Thoughts?

I hope Bendis will be the next to go....

I'm not sure what the direction for DC will be now that DiDio is gone. I have to believe that DC has their own "new vision of the creative future" or whatever, in the works already, so time will tell.

I was just not very satisfied with Dan's attitude about the LoSH in general. He didn't invest in them, never kept the flame going as it were, via the occasional guest appearance here or there (and I'm not talking about Batman/Saturn Girl/Arkham Asylum storyline), or something, anything like that. A few appearance as a team would have been good to remind fans and new readers that this team with decades of history is still "out there" and when the timing is right will soon be back. Perhaps in doing so, giving us readers some updates about what's been happening to the Legion since last we saw them. Fostering hope.....

Dan didn't promote this type of attitude for the Legion at all. Instead he saw them as a nuisance, and it probably even annoyed him whenever the subject of the Legion came up. So he swept them under the carpet and let others worry about if and when our beloved team would ever make some sort of comeback.
All we heard from him was platitudes like "the Legion deserves just the RIGHT set of circumstances for them to return", or something to that effect. What does that even mean?? It was lip serve plain and simple.

He could have actively consulted Paul Levitz to see what his hopes were for the continuation of the team. I am not happy with Levitz's way of leaving things they way he did, as well as some of the creative choices him made on his run during the team's last regular series a few years ago. Levitz did however leave the door open with some possible fates for the different members (as seen in the last few pages of the last issue) and the team as a whole.

My problem is that Dan didn't see the value to pursue this because he clearly did not feel connected to this team.
And boy did that show!

Let's hope whoever is in the driver's seat for DC now will see things for our Legion with a better, more positive angle. Hopefully he or she see the vast possibilities that the Legion mythos can bring to the future of DC machine.

I'm starting to see talk of AT&T just closing DC publishing and farming out enough publishing to keep the trademarks, but no real new material. This does not bode well for legion as it isn't part of the big three. I'm hoping it isn't true, but it does make money sense, and big corporations are only about one thing, money.

Are you able to provide a link of some sort regarding this topic?

It's own facebook. Several groups I'm own. I remember someone saying it started with EVS, but it popped up in a couple of other threads. Been looking through my facebook, but I'm not seeing it right now. If one gets a response and pops back up, I'll post it.

A couple of links

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsal...s-dc-fit-in-atts-vision-for-warnermedia/

https://cosmicbook.news/att-closing-dc-comics-5g-ethan-van-sciver

I've been hearing that DC is gonna start focusing on different writers, including novelists and the people who've worked on their new YA books. I think John Ridley might be considered an option for writing Batman, and he wrote The American Way miniseries for Wildstorm. I mean, in all honesty if they're getting the people who worked on "Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass" and "Shadow of the Batgirl" to work on the main titles I'm all for it because the YA books have been exceptionally better than the mainstream comics.

I'd rather see someone work on "Teen Titans" that has experience writing books aimed at actual teenagers and young adults, instead of doing more of Damian Wayne's Torture Basement.

Six months ago EVS was claiming that AT&T were going to sell off DC, for what's it's worth. I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.

I would definitely expect continuing shake-ups at DC, though.

I wish Bob Harras had gone with Didio, though. He was also part of the problem and he's been protecting Scott Lobdell for years.

At least get him off the Legion book his Wonder Comics books are pretty good but i stopped on Legion after issue 1.

Agreed. And that's a far more polite way of saying it than I am capable of, especially when it concerns a...character...like him. Thanks, EDE.



Again, agreed.

Didio had been making money for them. I'm like others that didn't like some of the actual work, but he was making money. I think a final clincher, and this is just a guess on my part, is the "replacement" stuff coming up. Marvel tried it and it tanked, costing them a lot in the publishing division. And a LOT of comic buyers were not looking forward to it. A very significant portion. And he has been importing a lot of talent that was at marvel at that time. I don't have any knowledge that it's true, but money looks at things and tries to maximize it. Money may have looked at what happened with marvel and done some end customer research and thought it was time to make a move before it went bad.

Or maybe they didn't like his mustache. I don't know.

But I'm hoping for good out of this. Trying to look on the bright side. Lot's of testimonials out there from voices in the business I've never really heard of saying how wonderful Didio was. Lots of big name talent not saying much, at least, not where I'm hearing it.

So I'm hoping for good. Especially with Legion.

Amen. Change can be good, especially when the status quo is not to your liking.

There is a discussion on Variant Comics Youtube channel about recent mention of Marvel in DC (Doomsday Clock #12) and seeing DC in Marvel (Thor #1) combined with some insider knowledge that leads to their speculation of DC and Marvel in the future. Speculation yes but seemed relevant to this discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj6oo0dtANY

Behind the original Crisis was DC tidying up their multiverse ahead of a potential sale to Marvel. So Doomsday Clock tidying things up for similar reasons isn't impossible.

Oh, there's yet another relaunch too. Just like post crisis there too.

No wonder Didio is on his way. A number of failed relaunches under his tenure.

Having Marvel mentioned in a book could just be another JLA/Avengers crossover. Or crossovers like those in the early '80s. A massive year long DC/Avengers crossover would be abig sales boost. Presumably with Galactus standing in for The Monitor: eating Universes and not just worlds.

Not reading DC I don't know how much of the DCU needed a "fix". Their parent company restructuring what it sees as a failing line isn't impossible. Comics may come to mirror their TV and movie counterparts only. You might only get cartoon type versions. Whatever works for the licensing. Trying to create content to launch future movies/TV could be the focus.

But a little less of churning out 52 poor books and believing your own hype at comic conventions and more focus on the timely publication of quality books would seem like an obvious start.

I think they will at least let Bendis finish his run on this version as long as sales are stable.

I wonder if Didio leaving might motivate Hickman to finish up with the X-Men so he can write for DC? He is on record stating "all the dream projects are there".

I didn't realize Hickman and Didio clashed. Hickman's vision would be fascinating on some of the big teams in the DCU

Hmmmm... I'm now wondering what would happen if DC went into areas that Didio restricted - like the past

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1889 that is.
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re:Hickman, I just read the collected 12 issues of HoX/PoX and have to say it was a lot more captivating than the new Legion. Big ideas and a master plan vs a buffet of many interesting future tidbits. Not entirely comparable, since we have only four issues and are dealing with essentially new characters, but it did make me wish to see what Hickman would do with the LSH.

It occurred to me recently that, because getting Bendis to come over to DC appears to have been mainly DiDio's doing, perhaps Bendis will lose favor with the remaining execs and editors at DC.

Which would, naturally, lead to a new writer for the Legion.

If that scenario comes true, and if it's a writer I like, I might consider lifting my moratorium on the DCU -- for the Legion at least. It was not an easy decision for me to stop buying Legion in the immediate aftermath of "Doomsday Clock"'s awful resolution. So let's say, for the moment, that the door hasn't been permanently sealed shut.

Glad to hear it. I have to say this iteration hasn't really appealed to me, but then, I don't think it was meant to. But, I'm trying. I'm hoping that someone like Venditi or Tomasi might be interested and restore the legion to good standing if things change. Venditi has done excellent work on Hawkman and Tomasi did some great stuff to rescue nightwing after the Devin stuff. But, I could be wrong about the last one. Going from memory.

Unfortunately, I suspect the most likely scenario is that the Legion will go dormant again when Bendis leaves.

Thanks, Rick. I like both Venditti and Tomasi, especially Tomasi (and his run on Super Sons showed he can write young people convincingly.) You might wanna check out some of Tomasi's work on Green Lantern -- that franchise stayed halfway readable as long as Tomasi was involved, either as writer or editor.



EDE, deep down I agree that your scenario is very plausible, but hopefully it won't come down to that.

On the other hand...earlier this morning, I was reading Mark Waid's introduction to the first collection of JLA/JSA team-ups, and he made the point that the near-unilateral cancellation of superhero books was a blessing in disguise, because only a few years later, the first Barry Allen Flash story got the Silver Age superhero boom going.

I have read a great article by Paul Levitz that states kids are reading comics, but not necessarily super-hero comics. I will provide a link to the article if anyone would like to see it.

Super-heroes are cool again because of the popular movies and TV shows, it is a shame that it might be next to impossible at this point to get younger readers. I think in the worst case scenario, the Legion won't go dormant, they will just bring the characters into the 20th century to match the "Supergirl" TV show. I personally would like to see them be used in video games, as it seems that mobile games/aps are the best way to reach the Generation Z/Late Millennial market DC wants.