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Re: LAST ROUND!!!! ACTION, Reboot or Threeboot? Ends Tuesday, 8/19
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Bouncing Boy - Action

Mon-el - Reboot

Matter-Eater Lad - Threeboot

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I'll go with 3Boot Tenz because he had the best Tenz moment EVER! (Wow--that's my very first 3Boot vote!)


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Mon-el: Action (pre-conspiracy please).

Matter Eater Lad: At the risk of being lynched, I was never a big Tenzil guy. Still, I liked the insane guy who turned it around and became important on his own planet (Don't forget even if 5YL is out, the "Sub Special" is still cannon and that was really the start of "funny" Tenzil). Action.

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I vote for 3boot Tenzil in his "mob suit" for Legion consigliere!

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HoooooKAY... so I really dug 3boot Tenz lawyer/truth-serum sunglasses-thingie/not a'scared to take a bite outta Lightning Lord too, but come ON, people! Giff and the Bierbaums made Tenz a star, and that begins with:

Matter-Eater Lad: ACTION/Classic

ps/ I really have been disappointed about the lack of followupage for 3boot Tenz.

Special "don't count in this thread" props go to Tooniverse Tenzil.


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Mon - Action all the way. From Superboy's brother all the way to his deciding to take the Time Trapper down once and for all.

Tenzil - I really liked the threeboot Tenzil too, and I'm also dissapointed we haven't seen him since. But at the end of the day, nothing compares to the original. Though he truly shined in TMK and then again in Legionnaires (SW6 or whatever notwithstanding), the classic version, particulary from the Subs special that truly defined him for the first time, is my Matter-Eater Lad.

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COSMIC BOY: Action- 7, Reboot- 14, 3boot- 2

SATURN GIRL: Action- 16, Reboot- 7, 3boot-2

LIGHTNING LAD: Action- 9, Reboot- 3, 3boot- 8

PHANTOM GIRL: Action- 7, Reboot- 3, 3boot- 12

TRIPLICATE GIRL: Action- 3, Reboot- 16, 3boot- 4

COLOSSAL BOY: Action- 13, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 6

CHAMELEON BOY: Action- 13, Reboot- 4, 3boot- 4

INVISIBLE KID: Action- 3, Reboot- 16, 3boot- 3

BRAINIAC 5: Action-8, Reboot-17, 3boot-0

ULTRA BOY: Action-18, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 3

STAR BOY: Action- 11, Reboot- 4, 3boot- 5

SHRINKING VIOLET: Action-11, Reboot- 7, 3boot-1

SUN BOY: Action-15, Reboot-1, 3boot-3

BOUNCING BOY: Action- 9, Reboot-11, 3boot- 0

MON-EL: Action- 10, Reboot- 4, 3boot- 0

MATTER-EATER LAD: Action- 5, Reboot- 0, 3boot- 7

So far, only 4 out of 48 possibilites have gottern zero votes.

ELEMENT LAD: Action, Reboot, or Threeboot?

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Mon: Action, if only because it's hard to discern which Mon is which.

Tenzil: M-E is one of my faves and, though I love what others have done with him, in this instance, you can't beat the original. Action.

Element Lad: Hmmmm...Action. Didn't like the Progenitor stuff, and though I do like some of the characterization for Threeboot ("I like being naked,") it still doesn't beat classic Jan for me.


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#15568 07/21/08 03:13 PM
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Ah, I've been waiting for this round. Wonder why? (See pic at upper left of this post...)

And yet.

I don't think any of the three choices here are all that great.

Threeboot Jan has been a *huge* disappointment to me. Really, he's been an example of taking just about everything that made the character distinct and individual and replacing it with... not much. Yeah, he likes to be naked. That's fun.

And Shooter and Manapul gave him a very idiosyncratic room... and a pet, no less! That's terrific- but it doesn't make up for his origin being stripped from him. Or for replacing his pseudo-scientific trappings with pseudo-mystical ones.

And for me, the Triplicate Girl romance is just one big misfire.

Still, threeboot Jan has got to be a better pick than reboot Element Lad. Not only was he burdened with the 'ditzy' behavior that made many fans hate him, he's got the Progenitor on his back.

I could still defend the ditziness, but I don't want to see Jan Progenitized once again.

Which is why I'm fairly concerned about how Johns will approach Element Lad. He's yet to be seen, or even mentioned, I believe, in the ACTION LSH stories. Who knows what view Johns has of the character? We know he's a fan of LEGION LOST. So, I'm worried about my favorite super-hero ever.

I hope that Johns will use Jan as a character with alot in common with Superman. That he'll keep the best of 'classic' Jan-- his humor used to deflect grief, his detective skills, his dedication to the LSH. I hope Johns will further adopt just a bit from reboot Jan-- his sensory experience of elements, with nonsequitors kept to a minimum. Heck, maybe Jan's *always* liked to be naked. We never- or rarely- saw his quarters in any of the other boots.

Let him have the pet, too.

So, I'm casting a worried vote for Action.

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Got some catching up to do...

MON-EL: There's only one choice here for me. The one and only, original Mon. My favorite hero of all time. Threeboot has trivialized him thus far. Reboot M'Onel was okay but nothing compared to the original...Superboy's big brother, by accident and by choice.

MATTER-EATER LAD: This perhaps is one of the most varied depictions of a Legionnaire over the three versions. For me it's an easy choice. Action Tenz proved time and time again (much like Chuck) that you didn't need to have a super awesome power to be a valuable team member and a hero in your own right. One of my favorite stories is the Action back up in which we meet his family and discover that he comes from a poverty stricken and abusive family, and yet, he puts his life on the line every day to defend civilization.

ELEMENT LAD: Three for three! Yipee! Jan has never felt right to me in either the reboot or this current version. You can't take away the decimation of Trom and his sole survivor status and still claim he's the same Jan. The other two can't shine a candle to the original.


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MATTER-EATER LAD: ACTION

ELEMENT LAD: ACTION


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I'll go with Action Tenzil. I'll admit I never knew much about (or cared much about) the character till I joined Legion World. I mostly knew his Giffen-era appearances ("*Gasp!* He can eat anything!"), which were fun. Tenz's following here is so strong that I've developed a whole new appreciation for him. Action Tenz and make him a Legionnaire!

I'll also vote for Action Jan. I don't like what I know of what happened with him in the Reboot and his changing-things-he-touches-for-a-minute thing is quite possibly my least favorite part of the Threeboot.


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No questions here: Classic E-Lad. His origins were unique, his characterization (especially after Levitz) was also unique. That's the one we love.

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#15574 07/22/08 06:24 AM
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People talk about Cos reverentially, but to me Jan is still the definitive Legion Leader. No question we go with Action Element Lad.

Like many reboot characters, I like Jan at first, but then when he went "New Age" he was awful, and I'm still angry about the Progenitor stuff.

Threeboot we just haven't seen enough of.

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Mon-El - The Reboot "Wanderer" role works for me. It's always bothered me to have such a powerhouse on the team who could conceivably do the job of at least a dozen other Legionnaires. Best kept at a minimum.

Matter Eater Lad - 3boot. One would think that Johns would HAVE to use Tenzil's 5YL personality as opposed to his previous personality (whatever that was). But until that happens, I'll take lawyer Tenzil.

Element Lad - Action. My favorite leader ever- level-headed, inspiring, willing to do the ugly jobs. Nothing in the other two versions show any of this.

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Element Lad - Abstain

He's joining Triplicate Girl and Shrinking Violet on my abstain list. This is really a very strong vote of "no confidence" in Geoff Johns. The original is my favorite of course -- before the Shvaughn romance, the commencement of the pseudo-spiritual drivel and the decision to give up his hard-earned leadership -- but I doubt GJ ever knew that character well or is motivated to dig so deep. His absence from the Johnsboot Legion is a bad sign -- not because I think he's dead or the Time Trapper -- because it says loud and clear that GJ has zero interest in the heroic version of the character.

The reconstituted pseudo-reboot E-Lad won't get my vote for reasons I need not explain.

Though the 3boot has shown a flash or two of promise, I doubt Shooter will ever explore him or his world. IIRC, he didn't pay a lot of attention to E-Lad in his Adventure or Superboy runs.

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For Jan, the reboot is just no way to go. 3boot Jan looked nice in 43, and the naked thing is lotsa fun, but of them all he's had the least development. Even Nura post-death has had more exposure.

Even though he's a no-show for Johns' recent ACTION arc, there could be a perfectly innocent explanation. So I guess for Jan I'd have to go with CLASSIC/(Action by default).


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#15578 07/23/08 03:31 AM
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Action Jan!


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While I'm not sure how Geoff's version will be portrayed, I've gotta go with the version that he should approximate--not even close: Classic/Action Jan!


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COSMIC BOY: Action- 7, Reboot- 14, 3boot- 2

SATURN GIRL: Action- 16, Reboot- 7, 3boot-2

LIGHTNING LAD: Action- 9, Reboot- 3, 3boot- 8

PHANTOM GIRL: Action- 7, Reboot- 3, 3boot- 12

TRIPLICATE GIRL: Action- 3, Reboot- 16, 3boot- 4

COLOSSAL BOY: Action- 13, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 6

CHAMELEON BOY: Action- 13, Reboot- 4, 3boot- 4

INVISIBLE KID: Action- 3, Reboot- 16, 3boot- 3

BRAINIAC 5: Action-8, Reboot-17, 3boot-0

ULTRA BOY: Action-18, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 3

STAR BOY: Action- 11, Reboot- 4, 3boot- 5

SHRINKING VIOLET: Action-11, Reboot- 7, 3boot-1

SUN BOY: Action-15, Reboot-1, 3boot-3

BOUNCING BOY: Action- 9, Reboot-11, 3boot- 0

MON-EL: Action- 12, Reboot- 5, 3boot- 0

MATTER-EATER LAD: Action- 9, Reboot- 0, 3boot- 8

ELEMENT LAD: Action- 12, Reboot- 0, 3boot- 0

Will Jan be the first shut-out?

LIGHT LASS/LIGHTNING LASS/SPARK: Action, Reboot, or Threeboot?

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I liked the more centered Ayla that appeared in ACTION. But she was really almost like a new version of the character-- who'd been a bit of a downer during the time she dumped Brin.

She hadn't yet entered her lesbian phase. I'm not sure who this Ayla will really be.

One big thing in her favor-- the whole masquerading as her brother stunt would ostensibly be included in her history.

Reboot Ayla was cute as all get out-- tom-boy with super-powers. But she had that 'gravity powers make me woozy so I won't use them' silliness going on.

Threeboot has been a surprise. Flirty, doesn't like to sleep alone (Ok- she needs some therapy), fairly intelligent and sure of herself. Plus, have we ever seen the Light Lass set of powers used to such successful effect?

I choose Threeboot- though I want the Drag King bit restored to her history.

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I liked the TMK Light Lass, but never cared about her before that. So, this time I go for 3boot, because I like what Shooter is turning her to be.

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#15583 07/24/08 11:54 AM
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3boot Ayla. No contest.

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Reboot Ayla. Mystery Lad said it best, "Tom-boy with superpowers" tongue


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