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It's going to be pretty tough seeing Sue in it and thinking, "Hmm. Not longer after this, she gets murdered horribly in IC."

I think I recall someone at Wizard World Texas mentioning that it would come out eventually, with some acknowledgement that the story predates IC (for the small number of people who didn't know what happened in IC, I guess)...

You mean when the laughter died and nothing was fun in the DCU ever again?

That would be Bob Wayne at the DC panel, if memory serves. He announced it there, so they definitely intend to release it as of now.

I've worked out a different possiblity maybe this Atom is really the Phantom Atom(a silver age alternate evil Atom) and maybe he has been in the real Atom's place siince Zero Hour meaning that the teenage Atom,back to the adult Ato has been preparing for this since then,perhaps at the end they'll find the real Atom near dead in an alternate reality and the real Ray will retire from super-heroing and the JLA will disband...
Of course now trusting the silver-age JLA seems a little harder for me.

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HOLY CRAP!! They zapped the Bat!

And first his dad, now Steph in the Gangwar... how much are they gonna dump on Tim???

Did they kill off Steph, or was she just hurt? (not sure what Gangwar is... I haven't read any Bat titles lately)

Sorry, Cru. The gangwar was part of the recent WAR GAMES story running through all the Batbooks. Steph apparently died from her wounds at the hands of the new Bat-uber-baddy, the Black Mask/Hood/whatever... And Orifice, I mean Orpheus also bit the dust, along with alot of Gotham's crimelords, allowing Black-headgear Guy to take over the Gotham underworld. :rolleyes:

She died in the end.

i seriously don't know why IC is such a big deal

it's not cutting edge or new for DC or Marvel or any comics company to rape and murder the females in order to build character (look at Gail Simone's women in refrigerators page for a more complete illustration of this dynamic)

you can barely suggest rape happening to a male character (I.E. Authority's Apollo under Millar), but on a woman? It builds character for all involved (suddenly, Dr. Light is menacing, Ralph & Sue's light-heartedness becomes about recovering from trauma, the satellite JLA gets to be more serious, et. al.), right?

i find THE PRACTICES of sexual assault/gender-specific violence disgusting

if you're gonna put it in comics, then make sure you deal with the ramifications

IC for me has been largely over-hyped ... the characterization of Green Arrow is dead-on and everyone else is slightly off ... and i don't know if it's deliberate or not ... and even after crime after crime is committed, i find it completely unbelievable that Batman or Oracle haven't figured out 'whodunnit' yet

i guess mysteries evolve differently in the comics medium -- i'd care more if Bat/Oracle had figured it out and spent the last 2 issues trying to stop XXX before they could strike again

Is this new baddie the one who looks like Mr. Bones only with a black skull?

Scott, he's the old Bat-villian Black Mask, although he really came back in force during #1-12 of Catwoman, where he was written as a major sicko. Although it looked like he was dead at the end of it, he’s recently come back again for this one and emerged as the top Bat-Villian.

He’s from the 80’s (early 80’s I think) from some really good stories. Recently, they’ve made him more like the Joker (a la, wise-cracking and making sick jokes), which goes a bit against his original more sinister character.

And yes, they’ve made him more like Mr. Bones in appearance now.

Great villain, although I’m unsure of what I think of his recent appearances.

That sucks. I really liked the Spoiler-Robin romance, although that seemed to have taken a backseat since Robin joined the Titans.

Boy... it doesn't pay to be a female crime-fighter in the DCU nowadays...

Part of the original hype for IC was that it would introduce a "major new villain" that would menace the DCU for years to come. So....who's the new villain?

Only one I can see so far is Captain Boomerang's son who also happens to possess super speed. That along with Boomerang's arsenal could make him a powerful criminal for Wally to contend with but I hardly think that he will be in the same league as a Ras al Ghul or Luthor or Darkseid, villains that can endager the world.

Even were he to turn out to be Amazo's son, I wouldn't put him in that category. So, if it's not him...who will this mysterious new force for evil be? Ray Palmer? Jean Loring? I find both highly unlikely though Ray is a physicist.

Can you think of anyone else? I can't.

Issue 7 (the final issue) has much to answer in this story and little to work with in my opinion. I suspect this latest Crisis is going to be a real letdown.

It'll be published as the second arc of JLA: Classified. After the Morrison/McGuinness arc.

wait, who the sprock is boomerang's son's momma?

or is he just a mutant with super-coincidental super-speed.

We don't know. Owen was originally said to be the son of Boomerang and Golden Glider, but Boomer admitted that GG wasn't the mother.

who is a female with super speed?

iris and barry's daughter (formerly of the tornado twins)in the future or xs? hmmmmm anyone have any thoughts as to who it could be?

What?!

I suppose this is all part of "making Tim into the next Batman"... it still sucks.

That's exactly what it is, STU. Read #17 and #18 of Teen Titans.

Interesting image posted by Zatanna1 on teh DCBoards IC forum:

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More grist for the rumor mill:

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(...Jeez, I feel like Mark Waid leading the "Legion Cheer:... )

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This is Rags' cover for the third printing of IC #1. Check out who's at the center of the glass shards:



...and wasn't this picture seen on Jean's bedroom wall?

Well..shoot.

Pov..I never picked up on the hints but it sure looks like they are pointing fingers.
I am still trying to figure out how and why him?

JLA: Classified #4 - No sign of Sue.

[EDIT: Although Wizard reports she'll be there.]

Pov,

that cover image is not so clear on my laptop. Who is the woman to the Right of Hawkman (in the white cape)

I'm not a JLA fan so its not obvious to me.