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Re: Recent Legion-verse sightings in DCU proper
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Right! It's a weird needle to thread! If he's involve in production and can write a decent show bible, but not write the dialogue, it might work!


If it generates interest at the end result, that's fine. There is an extremely strong chance that I'm a bad judge of how these things are received! laugh


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I'm glad there is still interest in the Legion as a property, at least.

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This is over a year old, but I looked and saw no one posted it here so I will.

In November of last year an update of new content to DC Universe Online (an ancient MMO from 2011 that is still happening) was Legion themed. The costumes and visuals are based on Sook's designs, including the Legion tower. Only the three founders show up in the game as far as I can tell, but the faces of Supergirl, Computo, and Brainiac 5 are shown on screens. Emerald Empress, Validus, and classic Mordru are villains, and Supergirl is implied to be a member of the team, so it appears this version of the team is a combination of different legions.

The trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QSU7XASQI4

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DrakeB3004 #1010754 12/21/21 04:23 PM
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And another thing...

I started diving into Legion appearances in video games and found a few more that I don't think are referenced in this thread.

From the first Injustice game (a DC-themed fighting game from, I think, 2013 or so?), if you beat the game as Ares it mentions Brainiac 5 but doesn't show him. Apparently Ares captures B5 and forces him to create a repeating time loop so Ares can fight for eternity or somesuch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJbb5CkOUPs


In the sequel Injustice 2 (which I believe was released in 2017 or so?) you can choose to play as Brainiac. If you beat the game as him he is revealed to be Brainiac 5 in disguise. It does show the three founders sitting on new variations of their Sneering Judgement Thrones, like from on the cover of 247. Their costumes are similar to ones they've had before, but unique to this game. Interestingly, Lightning Lad's name here is Lightning Boy, implying that the Garth of the Injustice games never changed his name to Lad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vbJ9ChN3g


And finally we have Superman's ending from the same game. After defeating Brainiac he starts releasing the bottled worlds and creates a new super team which he calls the Legion of Superheroes, but from the image its just some Justice Leaguers and blurry aliens in the background (I see durlans and thanagarians). No actual Legionnaires are present or referenced, just the name is used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0SOfSQH6QE

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In the latest Young Justice episode the Legion cameos for about 2 seconds. The Legion trio almost get hit by a time-travelling magic school bus being driven by a disembodied Klarion the Witch Boy.

It sounds wierder when you type it out.

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I'm glad to see they are in the new ep. I was wondering what that bus was all about in the last episode!


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I'm just wondering how Klarion manages to drive a school bus without a body...

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I wonder how most people drive so badly WITH a body.

Just kidding. There's lots of good drivers in the world. angel


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I've had so many bad experiences driving, I'm happy to never have to drive again

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Ann Hebistand #1010823 12/23/21 05:03 PM
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I know we're starting to veer off topic here, but I've noticed, at least in my corner of Maryland, that drivers have just become much worse than before in the last two years. At least once weekly I see people driving on the wrong side of the road, along with other a lot lesser idiocy.


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DrakeB3004 #1010921 12/28/21 09:43 AM
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In the latest issue of Justice League (#70) a classic logo Legion Flight Ring is shown as being one of the current Fortress of Solitude's treasures.

https://i.redd.it/i9tbrdsj6a881.jpg

Where to begin?

That's the old Legion logo. After Death Metal it has been said that "everything is canon" and "everyone remembers everything that ever happened to them" despite every reboot and crisis (it even showed the classic Legionnaires holding hands). But Superman has never mentioned his Legion any of the numerous times he encountered the Bendisboot Legion. Or ever talked with his son about them when he left to join them. Or when the United Planets was formed, which contradicts his Legion's timeline. And he never mentioned how his son is (was?) dating an alternate timeline version of Saturn Girl, one of Clark's childhood best friends. And how did even half of the objects and creatures on that page even survive, since the original fortress was blown up by Rogol Zaar, destroying everything inside of it?

Further, the Legion Ring is labelled with letters, meaning this was in the script and not just an art mistake.

Pretty confused right now. Maybe this means Clark's history with the classic Legion is going to be canon on the page again?

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Very curious indeed.

Did Superman ever meet the Threeboot? I know he definitely met the reboot team that also used that type of ring.


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DrakeB3004 #1010930 12/28/21 08:53 PM
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I don't believe Superman ever met Threeboot although Supergirl (Post-Crisis Kara Zor-EL) did and had a number of adventures with them.

His reactions to meeting the most recent Legion strongly suggest that he not only had never met them before but had never heard of any Legion before.

I think rather than "everything is canon" meaning that all the characters remember all past occurrences, it means that writers can pick and choose what they want to include in the current timeline. Nothing is off-limits but that doesn't mean everything is remembered.

I think the idea is that if you (the reader) were upset that a favourite story from the past was rebooted, you are meant to be comforted that it still happened - somehow, somewhere. The downside is if you are keen on a consistent background and timeline, then you are going to be disappointed.

When they retrofitted a version of the Post-Crisis Superman in to replace the New52 Superman (with a bit of magic help from Mxyzptlk) the timeline was adjusted to incorporate both - which is clearly logically incompatible. Nevertheless they carried on and we just had to go with the flow. I think the same applies to the rest of the universe now. If a writer has a good pitch that involves a past story from any version, they get to use it and we hand wave away inconsistencies. Sometimes this is acknowledged by characters, like how Roy Harper is now alive and with friends at the Memorial Roy Harper Titans Academy which no-one understands but is still happy about, but usually we just move on. Yes the existence of the Multiverse is now known in-universe but it doesn't explain or enlighten the timeline of the main universe we are following. We just move on.

Sorry, long winded comment. Yes I agree seeing the ring there is weird - but not unwelcome.

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I think Lo3W is the only time they ever met.

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Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
I think Lo3W is the only time they ever met.
Whoops. Forgot about Lo3W. Of course that was prior to New52 and Rebirth so who knows what that means now?

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Justice League Incarnate #3 is out today. The final page has
a bunch of shadow creatures with the Empty Hand shouting "THE GREAT DARKNESS IS COMING. EMPTY IS MY HAND."

Also there might be a Legion reference earlier in the issue, or perhaps not. At one point a skeleton Pirate Blackbeard says "You're the key to the golden lightning rod that sings to me from across a fleet of worlds." This is a reference to the bolt of lightning that represents a crack in the multiverse within this story. But this entire Justice League Incarnate book makes heavy references to the Legion's most famous bronze age story, the Great Darkness Saga, and golden lightning rods feature in the Legion's most famous silver age story, the Super-Sacrifice of the Legionnaires.

It could just be a coincidence. This comic, and Clark possibly having a Legion ring again from last week, has me suspicious about what is happening.

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Bendis has just started the first draft of the Legion pilot.

https://brianmichaelbendis.substack.com/p/new-year-signatures-naomi-no-life

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Why does Bendis need to threaten us like this while we're minding our own business?

...oh, right. That stuff I said.

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DrakeB3004 #1011208 01/09/22 12:13 AM
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I found a video containing all of the plot/cutscenes from the Legion content of DC Universe Online from last year. I assume none of us are playing it, so we can watch it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQeFT8xswDQ

Points:
- Quislet appears briefly and has spoken dialogue. I think this is the first time Quislet has been animated? Or voice acted?
- XS, Andromeda, and Sensor are mentioned as team members, so lots of Reboot references
- The blue, eyeless ProbeTek guys (robots?) from the five years later era act as item vendors
- Starfire says "The many forms of Sensor fascinate me, I would love their perspective on rulership"
- Lots of Bendisboot references: The costumes, Computo, Lightning Lad has two moms, the foodcourt is called Heaven
- Lightning Lad and Static Shock fighting side by side

So, confirmed membership of this version of the team:
Supergirl
Cosmic Boy
Saturn Girl
Lightning Lad
Quislet
Brainiac 5 (voice only)
Computo (voice only)
Andromeda (mentioned)
XS (mentioned)
Dream Girl (mentioned)
Sensor (mentioned)

Other characters:
Mordru (looks like the 21st century depiction)
Emerald Empress
Validus
ProbeTek droids
Evil alternate universe Cosmic Boy

Locations:
Legion HQ
Sorcerer's World

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thanks for the update and summary, Alexander! really appreciate it.

so cool that they're incorporating elements of different versions!

many forms of Sensor, wonder if that's a reference to humanoid Jeckie, reboot Sneckie, and the DNA alteration...

Yay for LL still having two moms!

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I got a kick out of the callback to the Cosmic Boy imposter storyline.

Thanks for posting!

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Originally Posted by Alexander
I found a video containing all of the plot/cutscenes from the Legion content of DC Universe Online from last year. I assume none of us are playing it, so we can watch it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQeFT8xswDQ

thank you for sharing(!!!).

I am glad to see they are open to multiple Legion versions, per comments on Andromeda and of course presence of Quislet.

Does anyone have any idea how much time one would have to spend grinding in the actual game to unlock this?

Of course, I'd have enjoyed the fight scenes more if there were actual legion members instead of a bunch of "random" online characters battling, but I guess that is the nature of DCU online.

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DCU Online is about a decade old I think. This is fairly recent content so it may be relatively "endgame" and require a fair amount of grinding to get to. I've not played the game though so am not sure.

One of the vendor rewards is your own personal Eye of Ekron to follow you around and another is a green glow, in case you ever wanted to become a cackling space pirate.

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I've been playing since it launched now 11 years ago.

The anniversary is this week and they usually give out a CR (Combat Rating) skip. CR levels determine what areas you can play in. So, if you start soon, you should be able to skip to or close to the level needed to play the Legion content.

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Originally Posted by Alexander
DCU Online is about a decade old I think. This is fairly recent content so it may be relatively "endgame" and require a fair amount of grinding to get to. I've not played the game though so am not sure.

One of the vendor rewards is your own personal Eye of Ekron to follow you around and another is a green glow, in case you ever wanted to become a cackling space pirate.

I did notice all the players in the video looked super leveled up., I bet you are right about it being endgame.
I started to play it when it came out (doesn't seem like 10 years ago, but my perception of elapsed time is rapidly failing as I age), but I could tell I wouldn't have the time to sink in to make it pay off, so I stopped fairly early.

It's a topic for another forum, but I REALLY hate the "grinding" aspect of video games. Too busy too have much time to play? then guess what - when you DO finally have time to play, your experience is going to suck relative to everyone else's because you haven't sunk 100s of hours into it. Augh.


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