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Re: Recent Legion-verse sightings in DCU proper
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He couldn't just magic it up himself? tongue

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Poor guy. I bet he longs for his less ignoble days riding jet skis.

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Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
He couldn't just magic it up himself? tongue

It was the principle of the thing! The little girl was mean!

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I've always found Mordru to be the most overrated of the Legion's top villains.

Now I feel vindicated. smile


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His initial appearance is one of the best Legion stories ever. It's been pretty much downhill for him ever since. I'm definitely not a fan of most of his use in the present day.

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Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
He couldn't just magic it up himself? tongue

It was the principle of the thing! The little girl was mean!

Did she make fun of the big bad wizard’s winged hat?

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Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
His initial appearance is one of the best Legion stories ever. It's been pretty much downhill for him ever since. I'm definitely not a fan of most of his use in the present day.

Yeah. The conquorer from another galaxy, with worlds falling to his armies. A threat who the Legion just managed to defeat in an untold story, and whose escape really scared them. And mostly downhill from there. The TMK run restored him to a position of power in the galaxy, as well as a role in why the team was formed i the first place. The Mordruverse issue gave a glimpse into this power. No doubt we've seen him as supposedly having lots of power (JSA, End of an Era) but he rarely carried the same levels of threat that I can recall.


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Originally Posted by thoth lad
Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
His initial appearance is one of the best Legion stories ever. It's been pretty much downhill for him ever since. I'm definitely not a fan of most of his use in the present day.

Yeah. The conquorer from another galaxy, with worlds falling to his armies. A threat who the Legion just managed to defeat in an untold story, and whose escape really scared them. And mostly downhill from there. The TMK run restored him to a position of power in the galaxy, as well as a role in why the team was formed i the first place. The Mordruverse issue gave a glimpse into this power. No doubt we've seen him as supposedly having lots of power (JSA, End of an Era) but he rarely carried the same levels of threat that I can recall.

I have a distaste for near-omnipotent villains, because they are so rarely defeated without a massive contrivance. The Postboot Mordru storyline, while not perfect, at least focused on the teamwork and tactics it took to defeat him.


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In addition, Postboot Mordru had the limitation re needing to charge his powers up. causing him to expend his energies weakened him.

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Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
In addition, Postboot Mordru had the limitation re needing to charge his powers up. causing him to expend his energies weakened him.

I had forgotten that. Thanks, Ibby.

So, yeah, I prefer supervillains when they're not quite powered up to god-level.


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you and me both, Fanfie, and thanks for referring to the Postboot Mordru. still one of my fave stories of all time! definitely loved the teamwork and tactics that went into fighting Mordru smile

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GUYS. LEGION SIGHTING SEPTEMBER 2023

SUPERMAN THE LAST DAYS OF LEX LUTHOR #2

Written by MARK WAID

Art and cover by BRYAN HITCH

Variant cover by CHRIS SAMNEE

1:25 variant cover by FRANCIS MANAPUL

$6.99 US | 48 pages | 2 of 3 | Prestige Plus | 8 1/2" x 10 7/8"

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Superman continues his mission to find a cure for what’s killing Lex Luthor. When the present has no answers, maybe the future will! But will the Legion of Super-Heroes help Clark find a cure for a man like Luthor?

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DrakeB3004 #1026888 06/21/23 07:09 AM
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I wonder what version he'll use?

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Wow - ok this will be interesting.

Waid was very keen on the Bendis/Sook designs when they were originally revealed, but was pretty radio silent during the run over the last couple years.

But he did say in an email "no one wants to be the creator to marginalize a team that was designed to be so diverse and inclusive and racially homogenous, something I wish we'd done a better job of ourselves with the Threeboot. "


So my guess is that he will be going with the newer version, but we'll see. One could significantly argue that Bendis did that marginalization himself.

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color me curious, will definitely keep an eye out for it!

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Funnily enough, Waid did a podcast interview 2 years ago where he said he wouldn't want to write the Legion again.

I agree with GL that Bendis himself marginalized the most recent iteration of the Legion.

No offense intended to people who are bigger fans of the Legion than I am, but I still think the Legion is best treated as an 80s nostalgia item. Just my opinion.

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Do we have any idea how "in-continuity" this story is supposed to be?

I'd kind of guess we'll see something more like the SA "Adult Legion".

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Also, this is a Black Label series, right?

So the other question is... which Legionnaire will need to have their naughty bits pixelated? wink

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Ann Hebistand #1026911 06/21/23 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Funnily enough, Waid did a podcast interview 2 years ago where he said he wouldn't want to write the Legion again.

I agree with GL that Bendis himself marginalized the most recent iteration of the Legion.

No offense intended to people who are bigger fans of the Legion than I am, but I still think the Legion is best treated as an 80s nostalgia item. Just my opinion.

He marginalized it in the worst way possible, acting under the idea that marginalized creators might be interested in carrying it on in some way and thus making it accessible to new readers, while making the changes so offensive and losing whatever audience he had by the Justice League mini that I doubt anyone would ever WANT to put in the time and effort to clean up his mess.

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Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Also, this is a Black Label series, right?

So the other question is... which Legionnaire will need to have their naughty bits pixelated? wink

or, which Legionnaires? tongue

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https://aiptcomics.com/2023/06/23/dc-preview-green-arrow-3/

You have no idea how badly I want to scream in incoherent rage right now but I'm at work so just imagine it

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Bizarre.

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I spent over a decade conceptualizing and trying to write about Arsenal and his daughter with the Legionnaires, and Williamson just, he... he went in...

I think I'm about to throw up.

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Nice! It's great to see the Legion back in a comic. Now I'll have to get all of the variant covers for this.



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They look great. This artist is good.

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I like the art, and that so many of them are smiling. Brings me back to the days of Alan Davis' Superboy's Legion, or the more upbeat bits of the Moy era. I like my Legion to have the capacity for smiles, and not to be all world-wearied and broken-down by life, at least, at the start!


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