Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Dr. Gym'll's Cultural Rarities Oh Yeah, That Forum: The Titans Teen Titans #16

Okay, I see your points. I would disagree with your usage of the word "unfamiliarity."

I am willing to bet money that a pow-wow session between Johns, Waid, Berganza and Wacker produced both Teen Titans #16 and Teen Titans/Legion Special #1 (again, because TT #16 leads into the Special #1 which leads into the Re-boot #1, Waid and Wacker need not only to know what is going on in TT #16 but to have a hand in it as well). Wacker and Waid are definitely familiar with the Legion.

Flight rings can't activate transuits (or naturally protect their wearers from the vacuum of space)? Okay.

It's silly to have the Persuader's ax cut through parallel dimensions? Okay.

In that case, I would say the creators "cut corners" in order to set up both the meeting between the Titans and the Legion and the imposing threat of Fatal Five Hundred as quickly as they could.

They needed to bring the conflict from point A (Teen Titans in the 21th century) to point D (the Fatal Five Hundred rampage on 31st century Earth), and the only QUICK way they felt they could do that is via Point B (flight rings activating transuits) and Point C (Persuader's Ax cutting through parallel temporal realities).

Contrived and silly? Sure, it can be looked at that way.

As I see it, the fuss about the flight rings is really not worth arguing about (innovations do NOT have to occur on-panel), and the Persuader's Ax is one of those super-hero comic book "science-fantasy" elements that you either swallow and continue reading or laugh hysterically at and drop the book.

It's the same when in the mid-1980s in a Paul Levitz/Greg Laroque LSH, Vol. 3 issue Mon-el brought a white dwarf star into Legion headquarters to act as a power supply for one of Brainy's contraptions.

I'm willing to take a leap of faith here. I'm trying not to be a stickler on the corner cutting and the off panel innovating. I know Waid and Wacker are familiar with The Legion, the thing that really bothers me about this whole thing is this:

The minister of paranoia seems pretty anxious to overlook these minor infractions. It just makes me think that something a little more sinister is going on here than what we've been led to believe.

Seriously though, I think that the creators need to be criticized and praised accordingly. I see that happening here.

Oops, sorry. Didn't mean to post.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Liar. Trying to pad for yer thousandth post, weren't ya, Mr 999

It was an honest error. I went to edit my previous post and accidentally hit the reply with quote button and add new post before I realized what happened.

Let me just add that I'm not sorry I posted it, and specifically didn't delete because I didn't know if that would take my count back down or not.

So then I get to congratulate you on your REAL 1000th post.
Cool.

I agree totally. In this case, I think the creative people behind this issue (whoever they may be) did a diservice to both of the teams with this contrived and hurried set up. With the price of comics being as high as they are now, I expect a lot more.

This is all my opinion of course. But I'd like to state it. Thanks.

I'm not performing my ministerial duties, huh? Well, since SoM/Reboot won't be leader for much longer, I thought I'd slack off on the job. What's he going to do? Fire me! Heh, heh, heh. Lame duck Leader.

If we can lump all those responsible for producing the comic book as "the creators" and blame them for a comic book we don't like, I don't have a problem with that. I just don't like it when one particular professional (in this case, Geoff Johns) gets singled out and blamed for something we really don't know originated with him.

(I actually just wrote an article for SBC.com on this very topic that should be posted soon.)

Oh, I've got a much, much better idea...

Uh oh..., I don't like the sound of that. I thought my paranoia days would end with SoM/Reboot's term.

Excuse me while I hide in the closet and peek out for signs of danger.