Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Dr. Gym'll's Cultural Rarities Oh Yeah, That Forum: The Titans Teen Titans/Outsiders Secret Files 2005... spoilers

I don't know how much interest there is in the Secret Files these days, but if more of them had been like this one, it'd be high.

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...Nightwing, Superboy and Robin looked good with Donna's star-pattern spilling over onto their uniforms on the cover-- though she has apparently fallen victim to Braalian brunette fading syndrome.

I enjoyed the Starfire/Jade, Starfire/Robin and Starfire/Nightwing moments (uh-oh... that's a lot of Starfire moments... and there's a crisis brewing).

The lateness of the RETURN OF DONNA TROY really affects the effectiveness of this issue. Like JSA, last week. Guess the Titans and Outsiders make their way home without Donna some way or another in that missing story. Kind of odd.

The concluding narration is dire: "Who is Donna Troy? She knows the answer. Perhaps she has always known. She is a harbinger. She is the messenger of an ominous future and the bringer of possibly unimaginable pain and perhaps even death. Donna Troy is going home to see her family."

Whoa. Poor Donna. Poor Titans. Poor DCU.

Along with her as she observes the Titans that she spies on, we discover that there is a remnant of the Wildebeast Society still active. Also, a storyline featuring a 'Project M' is ahead for one of the teams. 'M' for monster would be my guess. Was that Doomsday that the Wildebeast was housed beside?

I was most looking forward to the DUELA DENT story. When I first read it, I was quite disappointed. Mainly, I realized, because I'd been expecting answers to a decades-long mystery. What is contained here, however, is a reintroduction of Miss Dent to the Titans milieu in this timeline. And that's OK. Sure, I wish we'd finally seen the Joker's Daughter's back-story. But if a storyline featuring her and her parentage (on both sides a mystery, we're reminded) is in the offing, then it's worthwhile. Her baiting of the villains hanging around the old Justice League satellite *was* fun (but I thought we'd seen the satellite destroyed since it appeared in this capacity in IDENTITY CRISIS? Am I misremembering?). I hope she follows through on her itinerary fairly soon.

Thanks, Todd-- i just e-mailed my CBS and told them to snatch this up for me!

You're welcome. Be sure and report what you thought of Duela's story.

Here's a link to a story I wrote featuring the estimable Miss Dent teaming up (sort of) with members of a Legion of Super-Heroes.

http://www.legionworld.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000272#000000

I include this because the theme's kind of similar to the story appearing in the SECRET FILES.

The monster was Equus who along with Mr. Orr shown in story as well were apart of Brian Azzarello and Jim Lee's Superman: For Tomorrow.

Not another Who is Donna Troy story. She gets one like every 5 years. I have always been a fan but was a bit glad she died cause I couldn't take all the changes they continue to put her through.

Anyways hopefully she is "fixed" but I doubt it.

'Equus'? Did he debut as a young man riding around naked on horseback?

Thanks, Nightcrawler... I haven't been buying or even reading Superman titles for awhile now.

It isn't really a "Who is Donna Troy" story, Jorg-EM. It sort of frames the narrative, but isn't really about Donna's origins-- except that it shows her new 'base', New Chronus (at least I guess it's her new HQ) and sums up her thoughts after watching various Titans and Outsiders. Somehow, she's (or New Chronus tech is) watching through time, too.

There's a 2 page summary of her past- but it's more about her past as it relates to the teams being 'filed'. No big origin revisions here.

ala the Monitor...

Jamie

yeah, i guess she's the "new" Harbinger for this DCU ... and this crisis

and the Duela Dent story was disappointing... i wish there was a direction for her and a decent story ... like with Golden Eagle - he may be revealing himself to be a bit different than expected over in the pages of HAWKMAN right now, but at least it's definitive

What became of the previous Harbinger, did she revert back to being Lyla again?

Harbinger was killed in Superman/Batman #10 (July 2004). Another waste of a perfectly good character that was finally being used to her potential in the pages of Wonder Woman.

Ok ML, sounds interesting. I can see the cosmic goddess angle working quite well for her. To the truth it's a niche not seen in the DCU.

I was a little huffy to learn that my e-mail apparently was received too late and TT/O SF&O had already sold out. *exasperated tossing of hands!!*

You would think as I already subscribe to both TT & Outsiders they would go ahead and pull this for me, but Noooooooooo. *pout!*

Guess I'll have to wait for the re-order.

Hmm. I'm not really sure what I thought of this SF&O. On the one hand, it was really sweet as to see Cissie again and the Duela story was hilarious. And, I never thought I'd say this, but my God were Tim and Kory awesome together. It was crazy.

But, on the other... I dunno. I don't like this incarnation of Nightwing. >< And I really don't like watching him and Gar fight. Or how he treated Raven. (Can't we all just get along?) It hurts my soul how they're mudilating this character.

The stuff with Donna was ominous but I guess I'm semi-looking forward to it. I would be moreso if Donna wasn't such a confusing character and, y'know, I liked her more. But it was still interesting and I did enjoy it, surprisingly enough.

Favorite moment, though, was when Gar hit on Jade. It reminded me of the good ol' days when the New Teen Titans and Infinity, Inc. teamed up and he kept trying to get her to go on a date with him and she kept shooting him down... It was nice to see that some things never change.

I got the reorder of TT/O SF&O today, as well as R/O Donna Troy # 4. I take it I should read R/O DT # 4 before the SF&O?

Looking forward to Duela and Cissie!!

Or you could give yourself the same reading experience the rest of us had and read them out of order...

Stick last month's JSA in there somewhere, too.

Secret Files and Origins..like peanut butter cups.
Annuals + Who Who = good stuff.

I did enjoy this one more than some of the others I have read since DC has been using these to tell a bigger tale in one issue. Was a good issue.

Still no sign of it at my shop.

Shoulda looked for it in Boston.

I liked the Duela story! What wasn't to like? She looked great and when she popped that bubble on the Body Doubles chick, causing her to have a panicked expression (probably because she couldn't BREATHE!) I about fell off the bed.

I also liked the hint with the Lazarus Pit being linked with Duela's current status as a teenager when she should be Dick, Garth & Roy's age...