Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Visionaries of Tomorrow Waid Talks LSH at Newsarama

unless someone whose power can bring Dream Girl back to life.

"It's the technology ADULTS use to control underagers throughout the COSMOS."

C'mon guys...I'm a big Legion fan...but if Waid is gonna continue this silliness...i have to say I must drop the title. I know the guy may have based his whole run on the underagers thing but I've seen across the message boards when he lays it on thick with underager talk...readers don't care for it. Worst dialogue I've read in quite a while. Makes me sad. I'm collecting cause of Kitson's art but I just can't swallow this underager stuff.

And I agree with Glen's post totally about direct market...but I must admit DC has not impressed me with their attempts to revive the Legion franchise.

Jorg,

Of course we only have Cos's word that this machine controls underagers. That may simply be his underage perception of a situation he fails to understand. The machine may be nothing more or less than a glorified server. People may fear it in the same way some people in the here and now fear the internet, and the lack of privacy it can create. Also as it is possible for people to track you on line, via banking records and cctv in city centers, maybe this lack of "freedom" is seeing an echo in the legion comics.

Faraway Lad, love the micro.

Yeah I'm sure Waid has a good reason (i hope). In the end I hope that we learn the Legion are all paranoid like most teens.

Oh, he's probably lurking somewhere. Am I misremembering, or wasn't FFCB identified a avatar of Steve Wacker?

The adults-controlling-underagers stuff doesn't bother me too much because, historically, that's precisely what adults have always done - or attempted to do - to one degree or another throughout the course of human civilization. The main difference here is they're employing not only legal, social and political instruments, but high technology as well.

What *does* bother me about this scene is that Cos seems inordinately protective of the Public Service tech. If Brainy were in charge of the mission, he'd probably order the team to tear it to shreds, Sentient Cloud Boy be damned.

I think there's some reason they need the Public Service technology in order to fulfil whatever their mission is.

The LSH did this years before L.E.G.I.O.N. Remember Nardo's Super-Stalag?

Honestly, anything not directly tied to "Infinite Crisis" is getting secondary citizenship status. As much as I wouldn't want Legion to be mired in that, if this series were set up as a direct result of that event, it certainly would've garnered more interest.

maybe. but lots of fans seems to have a set idea of what kinds of books they want to read. for example, how many people who read day of vengance, will now read Fables(both by Wilingham)? probably not many. same thing for Legion. if the restart with Waid and Kitson didn't bring them in,then I doubt an IC tie in would bring that many in. or it would only work short-term.

now if only they could figure out a way to make Wolverine a LSH member. the numbers would go through the roof.

Well atleast Jan's logo is glowing on that preview page. Kudos for that.

I rather them not be tied up in IC anyways just don't think it was the smartest way to reboot the Legion. On the other hand the editorial job involving IC and quality...are through the roof. People still wondering why Garth is from Trom.

Rereading the text in the preview page...looks like Cos is agreeing public service is good? Heh, maybe Waid is on to something after all. Bored teenagers get into trouble.

Are we absolutely sure that Dream Girl is dead? Couldn't it have been Chameleon, impersonating her, say sneaking back from his squad's mission unseen?

Then again, it looks like she's a goner...sob...that's a cryin' shame too...I thought she was really intriguing in this incarnation of the Legion.

Gosh...#11's just soooo far away right now. Has it ever been mentioned that this Dream Girl is named Nura? I can;t remember at the moment but there's a very slim chance that this Dream Girl is not the Dreamy we now in previous incarnations.

If she really is dead, then I'm belatedly stunned. I really didn;t see that coming...

She was identified as "Nura" in issue #2.

Sorry.

After going through all of the clues and looking at the upcoming covers, here are my predictions:

Insanity - Brainiac 5 (as shown in issue #11)

Switching Sides - Triplicate Girl (She's been spying for Lemnos the whole time. I also think she'll turn out to be the unidentified girl on the cover of #12. I think the clues to this were planted back in #3.)

Romance - Dunno yet, unless it's Brainy and Dreamy. But, since Waid seems to indicate people not listed above, I'll guess Light Lass and Star Boy.

My newest pet theory is that Shikari is the Legionnaire who switches sides. Whether that's from Lemnos side to the Legionniares or if she's shown to have defected to Lemnos' side, I'm not certain.

I also firmly believe that she's depicted on the cover to #12 as others have speculated.

this is another thread that I keep coming back to, everytime I read the tittle it gets me thinking and my views change from day to day :rolleyes:

Insanity looks like Brainy's destination to me, he's careering on the edge isn't he? So maybe cos will go mad over grief at his father's death - he could over intellectulalise and be Solomn and morose with the odd flare up and we'd see it as his normal character so maybe the next step is Mettle re-visited, a good way forward me-thinks. it would never last but would be fun to watch!

Traitor theory #3 (one of these has to be right):

Brainiac 5 agrees to help Lemnos in some way in exchange for Lemnos using his powers to restore Dream Girl's damaged mind.

Another good one! We should run through the list of Legionnaires and find a justification for each of them to turn traitor.

Romance: Could that have been a reference to the back-up story featuring LL and SG?

I'm starting to think Brainy was the "arguably insane" one.

Still not sure about the whole "switching sides", though.

Traitor theories:
It's Cos. He decides that Lemnos is right, but sides with him to only to curb Lemnos' bloodlust and marshal Lemnos' troops more towards being Legionnaires.

It's Micro Lad. He decides joining Lemnos will be a new adventure and really doesn't care all too much about "little people" killing each other.

It's Triad. Turns out she was Lemnos' girlfriend but got accidentally left behind on Cargg after they trashed it. She returns to him when she regains her memories.

It's Timber Wolf. Bitter over the breakup with Jeckie, he helped Lemnos destroy her world and helped try to set them up by acting as bait.

Could it just be one of Triplicate Girl's bodies that is the traitor? Thus explaining why there's only two on the upcoming cover.

Yes, I also vote for TG as the traitor. After all, there are a lot of bodies where these three came from, and she can be easily replaced...

Triplicate Girl vs Triplicate Girl? Would she recognize the selves she left behind on Cargg if she just saw them (visually) without merging back together? Perhaps some of her selves have teamed up with Lemnos without her knowledge. What a civil war that would be!