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Joss' movie script explored this. His WW was strong and intelligent but naive in the ways of mans world. He wanted to explore her misunderstanding of our views and sensibilities for much of the humor in the script while maintaining her mastery of the martial (military) arts and show that she is also well educated.

Sequential Tart interviews Gail Simone re: Wonder Woman.

I like her attitude about being forced to work in crossover crap. That's been the downfall of many an interesting story in any number of books (Jimenez's WW and Hawkman come immediately to mind), but she seems to have a good handle on it.

Delayed!! Hmph. I was looking forward to it, too.

I contacted DCBS and canceled #13 from my August preorders. Gail's the only futzin' reason I'm picking this title up.

And why isn't DC doing more to promote her taking over?! Waid gets a much-publicized return to the old numbering with The Flash, not to mention the All-Flash special...

Heinberg got more promotion on Wonder Woman, and he didn't come close to living up to the hype. I'm expecting a bunch of WW ads in the next month or so.

Well, the board's now cleared for Gail Simone with the release of the annual. There's a new status quo for Wonder Woman that gives some purpose to the Diana Prince identity thanks to Circe. Doesn't really match up with AMAZONS ATTACK, however.

I loved the spread of all the villains attacking. I devoutly hope that Ms. Simone makes use of some the lesser known characters depicted here, instead of laying it on with Cheetah, Dr. Psycho and Circe.

I have no doubt that each of those mainstays'll appear, but I'd like to see some of the lesser lights shine, too.

Oooooo I'm all a twitter. Tomorrow we see Gail's first issue.

Newsarama has a few articles up, but DC hasn't done any promo work. That's odd...


I'm calling it now:

Wonder Woman and Gail Simone take the week!

Gail is hit and miss with me. I loved Rose & Thorn and Villains United and Secret Six. But her JLA Classified arc was ruined by a terrible ending, and I read one of her Birds of Prey arcs and just couldn't see what the big deal was.

I thought Gail's first Wonder Woman issue was okay. My favorite scene by far was the conversation between Hippolyta and the mystery prisoner who wants Diana dead. I'm intrigued to see where that goes.

The main plot kinda left me cold. Geoff Johns already used Nazi villains less than a year ago in the opening arc of the JSA relaunch, and I think they're no more effective here. The ape jokes didn't make me laugh (I think she's often heavy handed with the humorous bits) and her portrayal of Lt. Col. Etta Candy shows signs of dangerously drifting into Mary Sue territory.

But the biggest flaw to me is that Gail is the latest WW writer who just cannot get me to care about Diana herself, which is especially dissapointing because I thought one of the positive qualities of her JLA arc was a portrayal of Diana that actually made me like her. Now, I don't know whether she wanted to obliterate the spy game setup of the two previous writers and editorial wouldn't let her, but it's not working any better for me.

I still think Donna should have been a permanent replacement (thanks for nothing, Allen Heinberg.)

Gail is one of the few writers I'm really trusting to entertain me and please me these days, so I'm excited. In a way, her writing reminds me of PAD in the early 90's (when viewing it from the angle of why I personally enjoy her work).

Looking forward to it. Wonder Woman has been unreadable since Rucka left, and was virtually unreadable for years before he came.

I never thought of that, but I could see Gail possibly learning over the years to integrate the humor more smoothly into the mixture of drama and action (these days, when PAD's at his best -- i.e. X-Factor or the Hulk HoM arc -- his blend is perfection, which wasn't always the case in his early writing.) On the other hand, there's a certain...smugness to Gail's writing that even PAD's lesser work doesn't come across to me; hopefully she'll get rid of that as her writing matures.

I liked Gail’s first issue. We get Paradise Island and Hippolyta. We get Diana fighting apes, and apes flinging. BIRTHDAY CAKE and Diana Prince. Oooo Lt Col. Candy shows have sneaky she can be, and we get Nazis.

Okay the Nazi thing is played out, and with this week’s Wonder Girl mini, BC/GA, Countdown, and now WW- Themyscira is busier than Legion World on Cobie’s birthday. But it was a good start. I think Gail does a fine job mixing in the humour. She’s humanized Diana with her apartment and the cake. I can’t wait til she gets to cut loose with her.

The artwork is great, the Dodsons are perfect for drawing women without giving is a cheesecake look. (I like the shield they’ve given her. I know she has the bracelets, but it still looked cool.)

Gail Simone's a good writer and I think she's a much-needed breath of fresh air at DC right now, but there's always been something just a little bit 'off' about her writing to me and while I wouldn't descibe it as 'smug' - I think that's probably a step in the right direction to nailing the problem.

Fortunately, I didn't see any such negative aspects in her first issue of Wonder Woman. Loved it! I know I'm probably in the vast minority here but I absolutely LOVE the new status quo Alan Heinberg established with this run (i.e. secret agent Diana Prince teaming up with Nemesis and Sarge Steel and so on) and it was great to see Gail take that ball and totally run with it here.

The great art helped too. But best of all - it was just a really cool and fun issue. I know the Rucka run had a lot of fans but to me that whole era was just morose and dull - and don't get me started on those modernised Greek Gods complete with laptops and lattes - UGH!

Going by this one issue, it looks like this run is going to be completely the opposite and I for one will definitely stay on board for the ride!

LOVED the gorillas! Her manipulation/beatdown was an interesting use of WW's animal-empathy in warrior mode. I think.

Will they be hanging around awhile?

Maybe they'll be the Holiday Gorillas (y'know-- gorillas on holiday in 'man's world').

At the least, the leader that WW befriends here could become the 'Wonder Boy' that some fans have requested from time to time.

I'm looking forward to Gail Simone's time at the helm of WW.

Speaking of GA/BC, who is in charge of Paradise Island, Hippolyta as in Wonder Woman or Athena as in the GA/BC issue?

It's things like that that make me long for strong editors and strong oversight of the characters.

for Gary or Scott to merge the Gail interview thread from the S&LSH forum...

Just like last month, I find the scenes without Diana interesting and scenes with Diana uninteresting. Who knows what my reaction will be when the plot threads finish converging next issue.

That bit with Diana forcing Captain Nazi to relive his traumatic childhood is very J.M. DeMatteis -- and I don't mean that in a good way.

The Dodsons' art in this issue was not as good as they're capable of.

At least there was no Lt. Col. Mary Sue Candy this month. I swear, if she wore glasses she'd look just like Gail!

I'm only getting the next two issues because I want to see the confrontation between Diana and Alkyone (it's quite clear that Alkyone's the prisoner.)

There's an editor's note at the beginning of this week's issue saying the WW arc takes place before Countdown #30. Mind ya, Athena/Granny Goodness has been recruiting since before then...


Wonder Woman takes down Captain Nazi. Hippolyta takes down his cronies invading Paradise Island. Diana spends the rest of the issue seeking help from other pantheons to repel the invaders. She swears fealty to a Native American god, and that promises to be interesting in the future.

Gail's strength has always been the small moments. I'm looking forward to the upcoming showdown just as much as you, Stealth.

^^^^ I think that was a Hawaiian deity Diana was pledging allegiance to at the end there, not Native American. Or are Hawaiians considered Native American? My knowledge is pretty grey in that area.

I enjoyed this issue just as much as the previous one, which is to say - A LOT!

This just reads like classic comic-book storytelling to me - fun, dynamic lead character; cool, fleshed-out supporting characters; exciting and interesting story; fast-paced plotting; snappy banter; great art; and so on.

After all the death and dismemberment and angst I read in every other DC book this month it was actually a *relief* to sit down with this one!

The 3rd issue is running late, and we've got a new artist in May, according to a Newsarama article.

Dagnabbit!

Yeah-- Aaron Lopresti, fresh off Ms. Marvel and a current DC exclusive artist... not sure how I feel about that just yet. We'll see.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Please tell me they did not just kill Hyppolita again after just bringing her back in that craptastic Amazons Attack event that made my eyes bleed. I guess death really doesn't have a meaning. Jeez.</span></span>

Gail, I expected better of you.

Caliente,

I don't think it is what you think.

Seriously <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> Since the death of Hippolyta, Amazons Attack, Granny Goodness pretending to be Athena in Countdown, the Amazons have been put through the wring and getting as messed up as the old Hawkman continuity. It seems like ever other appearance we are getting the "definitive" Amazons/Paradise Island. We definitely need stronger editoral control. </span></span>

While I don't like the final scene of this issue, I do like the story Gail is crafting. It showed why both Diana and Hippolyta are both warriors of note. These are Amazon women and they know.

I wonder if the members of the Circle will turn out to be reoccurring antagonists? Not sure if they could be termed villains, but maybe they could.

They're creepy and sort of insane. Maybe one will rise to defend Hippolyta or Diana, while the others go even crazier.

In anycase, I hope at least one of the apes remains as a *permanent* addition to WW's supporting cast (she's had too many folks fade into the woodwork).

Unfortunately, until the Holly/Harley/GrannyAthena stuff in COUNTDOWN runs its course, this title is going to seem like it's happening in a parallel dimension. At least while the story's set on Themyscira.