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I just read issue #2.. ummm did anyone else find it bizarre that the car flew? Not soar...flew? I guess this version they wont need a bat-plane.
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The Flying Batmobile almost makes sense -- it was always a bit of a stretch that he never gets caught in traffic.
I really don't know what to think of this. Batman is coming across as really ... odd here (especially with that weird smile on this face). Since he was putting on an act of some kind for Dick's sake, it's not clear what Miller's take on Batman is this time around. The "are you, retarded or something? -- I'm the goddamn Batman" line was borderline offensive. This seems more like a Batman satire than an "iconic" representation of the character.
I'll stick around a bit to see where it goes, but things better pick up or turn around next ish.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DrakeB3004: [ The "are you, retarded or something? -- I'm the goddamn Batman" line was borderline offensive. This seems more like a Batman satire than an "iconic" representation of the character.
I have to agree..It kinda shocked me when he used colorful metaphors in dealing with a 12 year old in shock.
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okay, issue #1 had funky pacing (for me) but some pretty pictures issue #2 still had some pretty shots, but the dialogue and plotting are WAY too gritty for the sleek lines and lush colors
heck, batman's CHARACTER is too gritty for the shots ... i feel like we're watching Batman being done through a Warren Ellis lens -- smelling of liquor, a hostile intelligence and fists that can turn an army into pudding
i haven't seen anything in Lee's work that convinces me he understands this take on the character (Quitely would have knocked it out of the ballpark, IMO)
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Will someone please tell Frank Miller to stop doing covers? He should be arrested for battery for what he's done to the Black Canary on his alternate cover to ASBaR #3:
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I quit reading it after issue 2. My sister is mentally impaired thanks to a crappy doctor at birth. I know that "retard" isn't supposed to be an insult in today's slang, but i think thats frankly bullshit. And i know that this a personal thing for me alone, but its what it is. So i quite reading it. If he was going around using "fag" in a derogatory way, or "raging bitch", no one would let him get away with it.
I don't expect the same reaction from others, thats just the way i see it.
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Lots of people find the usage of the word "retard" offensive.
I saw Black Canary on the LEE cover version of # 3, and was tempted, but I still think I'll hold out for the All-Star SUPERMAN..
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Originally posted by MLLASH: Lots of people find the usage of the word "retard" offensive.
It has, to my knowledge, not stopped being either a straight-up insult or a derogatory way of describing something. I wasn't impressed by either cover, but in the case of the Lee one, I find myself being slightly irritated by BC's costume design and poses.
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Upon further review, my previous ruling of giving this another issue or two is overturned. Three bucks will be transfered from Miller to Morrison's Superman.
Miller is charged with writing a vulgar and unreadable Batman.
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Here in the UK at least 'retard' is still a hugely offensive term and Chris and I have been very shocked when we've heard it used on a few US shows recently (I think including the Simpsons). The idea that someone would be stupid enough to use it in this day and age annoys me a lot.
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Originally posted by MLLASH: I saw Black Canary on the LEE cover version of # 3, and was tempted, but I still think I'll hold out for the All-Star SUPERMAN.. Ummm... doesn't the Lee cover have Robin's face getting smothered by what looks like Batman's glove? http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/previews/dc/1005/AllStarBatmanRobin3.jpg
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When does AS: Superman come out? Any week now, right?
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Week of November 16th, I think.
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Read the preview copy of All-Star Superman #1 in Boston.
It rocked.
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Originally posted by Reboot: Ummm... doesn't the Lee cover have Robin's face getting smothered by what looks like Batman's glove?
He might be thinking of #4 (as was I), which I believe is a Lee Black Canary cover.
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I knew I'd seen a Lee Black Canary cover somewhere. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Outdoor Miner: Originally posted by Reboot: [b]Ummm... doesn't the Lee cover have Robin's face getting smothered by what looks like Batman's glove?
He might be thinking of #4 (as was I), which I believe is a Lee Black Canary cover.[/b]Um, doesn't look like Black Canary to me.
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Next, someone claims #5 is a Lee BC cover
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There's a freakin' Lee Black Canary cover out there somewhere. I'M NOT CRAZZZZZZZZZZZY!
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I believe you're thinking of the regular Lee cover to #3, Lash. It's the one with her in full 'kick in the face' position. Er, but your craziness is why your my hero, oh beloved one
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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: I believe you're thinking of the regular Lee cover to #3, Lash. It's the one with her in full 'kick in the face' position That's what, like, I've been SAYIN' and stuff! But Scott and Reboot are trying to convince me I've lost my last marble! Well, I'll have them know I've got plenty of marbles!
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Whichever.
Those of us who were in Boston saw what looked like a Lee Black Canary cover image during the DC slideshow.
Cramer will back me up on this. Through clenched teeth, perhaps, but she'll back me up.
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Well, this is the regular, albeit uncolored, cover to #3: I looked thru the DC slideshows for SD and Chicago and they didn't have a BC themed cover. And DC must have decided not to load up the Boston slideshow because it wasn't available.
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OK.
Get out your copy of Legion #11.
Go to the last page - the "DC in Demand" page.
Look at the "Hot List" section on the left-hand side of the page.
Look at the image next to the write-up of AS Batman & Robin #3.
That's what we're talking about. Might not be the actual cover at this point, though. (And Lash got it right that it was for #3 and not #4.)
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Well I'm glad that's settled. Thanks, Miner!
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