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X-MEN: SECRET INVASION #4 (or would that be SECRET INVASION: X-MEN?)-- Man, what a rip-off that cover is. Magma's front and center- but gets a panel or two exposure within-- with only a line like 'Yes, Sam'.

I was majorly disappointed. This was more or less a Beast/Cyclops story and as such, wasn't bad. Wasn't great, either.

Ah, well- I hope Sam and Amara get a permanent berth somewhere or other soon.

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I'm surprised there was no comment about X-Factor last week (#37?) A quite momentous occasion appeared in its pages-- one with unexpected developments that will, apparently, lead to even more unexpected developments.

Really, there was a scene that provoked quite a reaction as I read it- a reaction whose nature I still haven't really discerned.

As comic readers, we've all read the blurb 'and nothing will be the same ever again!!!' way too many times.

This time, I think such a blurb would be apt. And there's not an act of villainy, treachery or malice to be found.

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The latest X-Factor met my worst fears and exceeded them. I'm always annoyed when female characters in comics get mysteriously knocked up (with Ms Marvel's pregnancy-by-Immortus being the one that bugs me most) as a plot point, and then something funky happens to the infant (because there will *NEVER* be a comic book character that actually gets to keep their infant child and raise it, barring Sue Richards, they have to get sent away and artificially aged or evolve into energy forms or something!).

Not only is it the standard 'pregnancy-that-goes-nowhere' (see Scott and Maddy's kid for details), but it contradicts previous Madrox lore, as he *often* touches dupes (say, to use them as a human pyramid to climb a wall, or to cushion his fall) without losing control of his powers.

Lame go-nowhere story that has to contradict continuity to go-nowhere. Lame, lame, lame. Why go through all of that buildup to not have a freaking story?

Poor Theresa. Alcoholic, emotional issues, denial, PTSD, tortured, seduced, knocked up and now bereaved. It's like the character has a sign on her back that says, 'kick the hell out of me, please.' It's like reading Avengers back in the days where every single bad thing in the universe happened to the Scarlet Witch, one issue right after the other...


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... It's like reading Avengers back in the days where every single bad thing in the universe happened to the Scarlet Witch, one issue right after the other...


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Wow. I just read spoilers on the X-Factor issues. Wow. It sounds absolutely devastating! I've been in X-Factor limbo after the first three trades amid word of it floundering with Messiah CompleX, Larry Stroman, etc. Sounds like the title is back to doing what it does best: exploring the enigma that is Madrox. I've gotta hunt down 39 and see how this plays out!

(I can hardly believe our resident self-described "X-Factor Cheerleader" Stealth hasn't weighed in yet.)


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Buy the fourth X-Factor trade, Lardy (if it's come out yet, that is). It's the last time the book was really good.

I stopped being an X-Factor Cheerleader around the time of the Secret Invasion, and then dropped the book after the first post-SI issue when it proved just as subpar as the crossover issues. But the rot was already setting in a couple issues after Messiah CompleX. I don't blame crossovers, though, I blame Axel Alonso; it can't be a coincidence that Andy Schmidt quit Marvel shortly after Alonso became the X-Books' group editor.

Re: the current issue, I'll see on Wednesday if my comic shop has any issues left, and I'll read it in the shop. As much as the last few issues that I read let me down, I'd still like to give Peter David the benefit of the doubt.


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i flipped through it and put it back, and i usually get xfactor. yeah the story dosn't make sense.

i would also like to rant on a tanget: speaking of butchered woman.

i was really upset with the avengers issue commemorating the wasp, and the story they told was the one where hank slaps her????? livid. not the frickin masters of evil story where she assembled a new team to take back the mansion or took down titania and absorbing man with the ant man???? im sure there are tons of glorious stories of the wasp that they could've told.

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I'll keep buying X-Factor for awhile longer and see how it goes (and I've somehow managed to avoid spoilers).

But is anyone buying Warren Ellis' Astonishing X-Men. Man, it SUCKS.

Really: pretty SUCKtacular. Don't know why I even bothered.

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Yeah, I was not 100% in love with Whedon's run (although he had his moments of genius), but dayum, has Astonishing gone downhill on a bobsled full of hopped-up Jamaicans, or what?


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I've avoided mention of X-Factor #39 at PAD's request. It would be tough to mention anything in the issue since it's all about the pregnancy. It's an unexpected move, and sure to provide drama in the book.

The art is much better than Stroman's work.


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I'll keep buying X-Factor for awhile longer and see how it goes (and I've somehow managed to avoid spoilers).

But is anyone buying Warren Ellis' Astonishing X-Men. Man, it SUCKS.

Really: pretty SUCKtacular. Don't know why I even bothered.
CBR has an interview with Nick Lowe posted. He's asked a question about the Ghost Box story from Warren Ellis. It's not a satisfying answer.


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I, too, shall respect Peter David's wishes and not spoil anything.

I will say that I read the issue and I liked it. Liked it so much I bought it. I think PAD deals with delicate subject matter with the sensitivity that he shows when he's making one hundred percent effort. Comparisons to Michelinie's Ms. Marvel rape fantasy and Byrne's torture of the Scarlet Witch and Shooter's victimization of the Wasp are all way off-base IMO.

Cleome, did you actually READ the comic before you tagged it as a women-in-refrigerators offender? In case you don't know, I'm a woman like you, and I wasn't offended in the least.

As cliche as it sounds, bad things do happen to good people, whether they be women or men or anything in between. A former hairdresser of mine is a wonderful kind-hearted person, and she's had an undeserved run of bad luck over the last several years. And if a writer has bad things happen to a fictional character, it's not necessarily done in a mean-spirited fashion or as a lazy hack's last resort. PAD is bigger than that and better than that. In my opinion.

I'm not ready to put the book back on my pull list yet, but I'm eager to see if the next issue keeps up this level of quality.


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Actually, Stealth, I was referring to all the-- er, poop that came down on the Scarlet Witch, back in the day. Those I did try to read, but ended up putting them back on the shelf in disgust.

Sorry. Shoulda' made that clearer.


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Okay. Thanks for explaining, Cleome.

And, Lardy, thank you for bringing this issue to my attention.


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No prob, Stealth.

Damn! This issue has sold out completely thru Diamond, so I won't be able to get it unless there's a second printing (or I get it online thru a back issue dealer). It's weird (and kinda nice, really!) that a story with no significance beyond the book itself would sell out so quickly!


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Lardy, I can grab a copy if you'd like, send it your way.


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Marvel's debuting a new anthology title called ASTONISHING TALES-- there's a future Iron Man story, a current IM tale and the one I bought the issue for-- a Cannonball/Sunspot story that has the pair first vacationing in Roberto's Brazilian luxury, then snatched up to become movie-makers for Mojo!

The tone is light and fun-- they stay (for awhile, anyway) in the Mojoverse voluntarily with no apparent threat ahead.

I'm eager to see what kind of entertainment they devise before the inevitable you-know-what hits the fan.

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X-FORCE 12: Wow. The Wolf-Prince from the New Mutants-in-Asgard story. Now, *that's* a surprise. For me, a welcome one.

Y'know-- I'd be ok with Rahne running off with him and disappearing from X-Men comics for awhile.

The villains are absoultely amok- perhaps justifying Cyclops strategem with this team. Still hard to take Leper Queen seriously, though.

I like the energy in the art- it looks computer-aided, which I don't necessarily mind. Compelling.

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ASTONISHING TALES #2-- I'm really only reading the Cannonball/Sunspot installments. The one in this issue was a little forced, as our heroes make their bargain with the devil via a series of kind of lame pop culture 'challenges'.

I like the cover art.

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EXILES #1-- *A* Timebroker's back in the book again, along with a bit of mystery about why these characters are chosen and what the general set-up is going to be.

I didn't read the Claremont issues of the preceding volume, so I don't know if the basics of the purpose of Exiles was changed, but it seems intact here.

So, it's down to characters-- Blink (the same Blink from V.1), a Beast, a Panther (I notice he's never called 'Black' Panther, so I'm guessing he's of a different race than the regular T'Challa's), a Forge (much angstier than 'ours'), a Scarlet Witch and a Polaris.

All were plucked from their worlds an instant before their deaths.

I like the line-up, and I enjoyed some of the Exiles adventures. Admittedly, the shift from world to world can get repetitive. Unless the creators have an imaginative arsenal already in their collective head.

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Neither of the "colour-adjective" characters had were "coloured" if you look - it was just "the Witch" and "the Panther".

And, yeah, good first issue.


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You're right... the EXILES Wanda isn't calling herself 'Scarlet', though she is wearing the familiar color. The Scarlet was never anything but an adjective and costume choice for her, though. Unlike T'Challa.

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UNCANNY X-MEN #208-- Fans of late eighties and the ninetes minor supervillainesses will want to at least leaf through this title at their cbs.

I hope an explanation as to how these ladies got together is forthcoming, as that's a plot-point I can't quite wrap my head around.

To be fair, that's pretty much the standard m.o. for super-villain groups, though. I've never understood why it's so 'important' for a superhero team to have some overarcing purpose, other than fighting bad guys. Nobody seems to care why the *villains* join some brotherhood (here, sisterhood) or society or or league.

I don't even recognize a couple of them, except by name. One character, in particular, gets a redesign that is as wrong-headed as they come. If a distinctive look *has* to be replaced, it should be by a look that's just as distinctive. Here, it's just the opposite. Sprial always brought a certain energy (and I don't mean her powers) with her when she appeared in a story. I don't sense that here at all.

Why are they doing what they're doing? What possible gain could *they* get from the happenings at issue's end? I'm left scratching my head.

I kind of like the 'mad scientists' subplot-- though the amount of space they get here is really all I want to see them get, until they reach a climactic plotpoint.

I *definitely* like the offer of membership to the character who joins here. <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Northstar</span></span> is one of my favorites and I look forward to this character's inclusion in the future.

I'm glad a certain plotpoint from a few years ago concerning this character and the X-Man who seeks him out to offer him membership isn't forgotten. I don't particularly want to see it brought up again and again, though.

Aside from a new member, the most interesting thing going on, really, is that creepy little slave-boy, Empath, and his submission to the Red Queen. That and the inexplicable goings-on at the end of the issue. <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">another body-swap or something with Kwannon and Psylock, I think. I'm not really sure.</span></span> And an-- interesting-- look at MU Tokyo. I think I liked the bit with Domino in the 'electric city'. It was a distinct setting, anyway, which I appreciate.

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X-FACTOR #42-- Oh, joy. Another future. Please don't let this be an extended journey for Jamie.

Siryn as boss was fun. More Rictor! Let Valerie Cooper go bother some dark group or other- she bores me.

I wonder what brunette chick would've named Longshot?

I really enjoyed this issue, up until the end. It was telegraphed a mile away, in retrospect. An almost thoroughly Magneto-ized Scott Summers. Oy.

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