Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION The Anywhere Machine Things you liked at first, but then hated

Bloom County. The middle years were awesome, but the final two or three years were vile. Sloppy art, lame jokes, characters not acting like themselves...yuck.

Lost. Loved Season One, but I thought Season Two was toxically bad, especially *n* L*c**, and the show never recovered.

Strawberries. Loved them until fairly recently, now they make me sick.

The Democratic Party.

Tori Amos. Liked her first CD, but then I made the mistake of reading one of her interviews. That ruined everything for me that came afterward. (These days, I try like mad never to read the opinions of artists whose work I admire. It's so much better being ignorant.) Also, I met so many of her fans on the 'net (and a couple IRL) that turned out to be mega-pretentious, astoundingly self-important wankers.

Yeah, as a rule, I avoid fansites for pop stars. I got burned really badly by a few. The saddest part is that the few nice fans get drowned out by all the incessant brouhaha.

Guns and Roses. Their first album was a refreshing slap in the face from all the hair metal that had been happening in the 80's (not that all of that was terrible mind you.)

Then...they turned into a parody of themselves, and then it got worse from there.

CAnnot really listen to anything outside that first album, and even that makes me cringe.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I love jazz but in general I don't love jazz fansites. Too much egotistical wankery, and too many hopeless snobs who want to save their precious toys from the unwashed masses and their grubby plebian paws. (Sort of like some comics sites, sad to say.)

Carrying that further, sometimes in the internet age, I've found out things I would have rather not known about the politics of jazz critics, some of whom were my indispensable guides when I was discovering the music in a big way. There are some who have amazingly Neanderthal views on things other than music. Now I wince when I see their names on the liner notes in my collection.

Yeah, I loved (most) hair metal, but I loved GnR, too...at first.

I do think the good bits of their all-covers album "The Spaghetti Incident" are almost as great as the first album, though. For that matter, I'd also rate their Wings and Dylan covers from the "Illusion" albums. But their original material...yeesh.

Oh, entertainment journalism is definitely something I went from loving to hating. Most critics are just in it for the perks, IMO. And even some of the ones who genuinely love what they write about have an apalling sense of self-importance. About the only living one I can still tolerate is Nick Kent, whose recent "Apathy for the Devil" memoirs showed a refreshingly mature view of his youthful bad behavior.

I will admit to still liking Live and Let Die.

Oh, yeah.

"YA GOTTA GIVE THE OTHER FELLA HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLL!!!!!!"

Stand Up Comedians. Almost all of them.

They're funny the first time you see them, and then it gets boring. Chappelle, Seinfeld, Mencia, and many many more.

The one MAJOR exception for me is Steven Wright. He get's funnier all the time, and he can do the same set (or I can watch the old HBO special) over and over and it never gets old to me.

^ Yep, still like Steven Wright.

Geoff Johns. His original JSA and the first part of his Flash runs were great, but then he went off the rails. I honestly think he got too big and at some point his editors failed to hold him in check, and suddenly half-baked ideas and ultra-violence proliferated. I also think he took on too many titles and the quality substantially dropped (compare an early book to his current output in regards to splash pages/ word count, etc).

100% agree.

This could just as easily go in Quislet's thread about dropping religion, but... quite a few aspects of the faith I was born to. In particular that whole "The Chosen People of God" thing has some seriously problematic applications in the real world.

"Bones."

At first, I enjoyed the interplay between Emily Deschanel and David Boreanaz and their investigations into gruesome crimes, as well as the the supporting cast, but it all wore thin very quickly.

I cannot find said thread, where is it located?

It's called "Coming Out," Dave. I just posted/bumped it.

Ah thanks. I erroneously assumed it was about "Coming Out" . (It's also in MMB, where I rarely go).

Tina Fey's humor.

While I still like Tina the person & even as an actress, I have to say that she just isn't really funny at all. She has moments of brilliance--the Sarah Palin parody comes to mind--but overall, she's really only just okay. It doesn't help that she's so predictable in her political leanings and tendency to promote all things 'PC'.

I still like her though; there's no getting around that. But she rarely makes me laugh.

And I'd much rather watch Fey as the repressed, overthinking nerd on 30 Rock than watch yet another parody on SNL. The latter is definitely one of those things that I used to love and now can't get into at all. Even if I don't actively hate it, for the most part I find it overhyped, padded, and stale.

Maybe I just outgrew parody-related humor as a whole, and I'd rather watch comedy that's a study of how weird and bereft of sense an individual comes across to just about anyone other than herself.

I can't watch more than five minutes of "30 Rock" at a time. Fey, Baldwin and the rest are so over the top as caricatures I find it hard to believe they represent real people.

For that matter, series television in general is something I used to love (read: was addicted to) but now have virtually zero patience for. Every show seems like every other show of its type (crime show, sitcom, etc.) with sophomoric humor, one-dimensional characters, and story lines that passed their expiration date 30 years ago. Worse, the remote makes it unlikely that I will sit through commercials and remember what I was watching when it's time to flip back.

Dang, it's hard being crotchety and old . . . or great, I'm not sure which.

Giffen's BWA-HA-HA Justice League. I initially enjoyed the little silly bits that were thrown in. But then the silly bits became the focal point. I got so tired of it that I didn't like it when it was brought back years later as specials. Between this, his later Legion art, and "killing" Karate Kid just because he didn't like the character has really turned me off of everything he does now.

Well, I actually like Liz Lemon, the character, when she's being played as the strait-woman.

When Tina hosts SNL...ugh. The funny is sucked right out of the room.

Adding to HWW's comments about TV: I used to love cop shows, but I turned cold to them in the last ten years or so. The overexposure of things like the L&O franchise, combined with too much RL exposure to really terrible cops in my own city... well, that kind of killed it for me. As a whole I neither like nor trust the police in day to day life, and I'm pretty fed up with them being held up as heroes constantly in pop entertainment.

If anything, it feels like pop culture marketers are pushing cops as heroes harder and harder, in response to the phenomenon of more "average citizens" becoming distrustful and disenchanted with police conduct. I know that the recent issue of Daredevil had a heartfelt rah-rah from the title character about the glory of protecting and serving the public while in uniform. But having seen the way police behave as a rule in this town, (if they are not supposed "bad apples" they seem unable and disinterested in doing anything but protecting those "bad apples" from taking any responsibility for their actions) it just made me roll my eyes.