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So, I fell asleep before Battlestar and woke up as Tigh was crying on Adama and said 'His name was . . . .'
Then 6 put up a picture on a wall.

What happened?

Did the baby die?
Anders was just lying on a bed.
Did he die?

Is that nurse killing them?

Where's Ellen?
Where's that John/Cavil guy?

I'm so upset with myself!

Baby Liam died
Anders has brain activity

Was it just me, or did I miss something? How do you make the leap in logic from "Humans will have a hard time accepting a blended fleet while they're starving" to "Let's arm Baltar's cult to the teeth!"

Yeah, definitely questioning that decision.

On a lighter note, we're thinking of having some friends over for the finale (sorry we can't fit Legion World in our living room), and I'm trying to come up with a themed menu. So far, all I've got are Frakfurters, Pad Tighe and Starbucks coffee (or just something from there).

Any other punny suggestions?

Great episode.

So presumably Starbuck's father was Daniel, so she's a hybrid. The question is, where the heck did she resurrect after she crashed on Earth and where did her Viper come from?

I dig evil Boomer. Well played on her part. I want an Athena-Boomer throw down new, no matter how hard it will be effects wise.

i was kinda bored withe the episode

I'm sorry.

I've tried with Battlestar.

I got put off by the constant referals to God and stuff in the beginning.
Then, there was the hopelessness.

I tried again when I realized Lucy Lawless was in the series.
But Galactica's still confusing, overwrought and rather pointless, to me.

So far, the only thing that's made any sense or 'completion' to me, has been John's anger at Ellen for designing him to have such limited human eyes, when he could have 'seen' so much more.

I've never been into tragedies very much, I guess. (Someone here said that EVERYONE was going to die.)
But they all seem kind of dead already, including Starbuck.

hmmm. i liked the episode.....and evil boomer. i think they are wrapping things up while keeping up the action....but everyone is kinda dead...there is no joy lately in the characters. which is understandable but still...kinda depressing...

I think it's an "Always Darkest before the Dawn" kind of thing. Although it's pretty obvious now that Galactica herself won't survive the last episode, I expect when they get Hera back, she'll lead them to a new promised land.

well i guess no one is impressed with how its unfolding, we're on the last 2 episodes. Though the last episode was kinda dull, some parts were interesting, but not enough for me to say wow that show rocked.

The last episode was definitely all set-up (and depressing set-up at that). It's going to take a pretty big finale to turn it all around.

i guess thats why the finale is called
Daybreak

i enjoyed last nights episode even though there wasnt really what i would say a lot going on. Even if the final episodes werent what everyone was thinking, i still think its a fantastic story and this is probably the best way a story could end. Not the way the fans want it to end but how it should end.
I thought Baltar was going to join the search for hera, who knows he still may.

What got me were the opening moments -- the galaxy, the blindingly beautiful Caprica from space, before the fall. Those scenes had a visual, non-verbal impact like the best moments from 2001. Mary McDonnel's acting, and the Roslyn character, are just extraordinary.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/03/tragically_the_scifi_channel_is_now_syfy.php

Syfy????????????? sounds like a virus to me! so Sci-Fi channel will change the name in July. geez.

I'm so excited for tomorrow night's finale that I can't contain myself. I'll be jumpy all day tomorrow.

The whole "SyFy" thing is ridiculous. If you read the press release announcing the change, it's obvious that some lawyer told them "if you change the name to something you can trademark, you can do licensing and merchandising!" Never mind that no-one with a brain (like, say, nerdy sci fi fans?) is going to fall for that trap.

so the Starbuck that returned was an angel that what??? had to learn a song that would lead to anew home, but was taught to her as a child by who??? daniel??? never revealed, i enjoyed the finale but c'mon what the hell was the deal. Is it just me?

Well, the Starbuck thing was a bit of a mystery, still, wasn't it? I imagine we'll figure it out over the next hours, days and weeks. For myself, it's a bit of the 4th wall being broken, perhaps. By that I mean the divine interventions throughout the series and the finale, that "God" (who doesn't like that name) had a plan to keep life going, and Starbuck was part of it, conventionally alive or not. Beyond that, you got me, mate. It was beautiful, though, the whole damn thing. The finest scifi action sequences EVER, followed by something sincere and sweet and elegaic enough to make me weep. And, I think the 4th wall breach is really essential here, because Moore is too smart not to be aware of the factual impossibility of independent human evolution. SO, God (who hates that name) must be involved, SOMEHOW, for the remains of the humans and the Cylons to find their new and final home how they find it.

So, what qualities do we get from our Cylon heritage? I'm guessing it's a watered down version of their projection -- the ability to live almost fully in a reality of our mind. It's called delusion. Anyone got anything else?

I think the implication is pretty strong that Daniel was her father, making her the first real union of Cylon and human. I like that they didn't spell it out or really explain her appearance or disappearance. Leaves some element of the "higher power" unexplained.

to be honest, if they didnt actually say she was the daughter of daniel, i highly doubt she is his daughter. Maybe the implication is that it was the angel of her father i would guess. The show gave really no indicatation to me that starbuck was daniels daughter.

I think the evidence strongly points to it. Daniel was the artistic one, and Kara's father plays piano (and is where Kara got her penchant for painting). The song is central to the Cylons make-up and he taught it to her as a child (well before the others "remembered it"). His disappearance seems to fall in line with Cavil poisoning the line. If he didn't know he couldn't resurrect he may have been a little too careless one day. There's too much there to imply he's Daniel, coupled with the lack of any other plausible explanation, I think it's the most likely case.

werent the daniels models destroyed, its going on the assumption that one model survived, which at this point i dont believe.
and this is just me but, IMO the song is the signal that "God" has sent to lead them to their new home, Starbuck found earth but it was a wasteland, the song led them to new earth, no one was there before, neither cylon nor colonials, so i cant see how "Daniel"would have known the way there. But of course that leaves the question why would her father know the song?
Its all God.


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Actually, the creators say Daniel was never meant to be a part of Kara's story and that they've been surprised that he's been linked to being her pop. They say we're meant to draw our own conclusions about exactly what she is. Read the article here for their insights into that and other questions left unanswered.

that was an interesting read.