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I think that Karate Kid has just been a silly plot device set in countdown... However, this was visibly decided well before Giffen was involved with the project.

Er... Geoff Johns wrote it, and I think that's all you need to know?

Not to interrupt the "crappiest mini-series of all time" thread that seems to have taken over this Action thread ( ), but Comics Continuum has the first 5 pages of Action #863 posted here , along with some other DC books coming out this next Wednesday!

I cannot wait for this!!!! (except that it will be over for now...)

I try not to spoil myself on preview pages for books I love reading, but I'm glad I did. Brainy really is a genius.

It was rather funny, in a twisted yet predictable kind of way...

i think what was even funnier then haveing to be waken up with a kiss, what that brainy knew what turned sun boy on

Thanks for the save Omni.

I'm still trying to figure out how Dirk goes from the pron star mustache on one page to the Clint Eastwood Man with No Name five o'clock shadow on the next.

No problem YK. Happy to play the thread police.

Good catch Scott! Dirk...as in Dirk Diggler? You'd think the colorist would have been a bit more consistent in that.

I liked Gim catching Dirk, and Yera's reaction to having to wake him up.

Looks like the sun will go yellow at the last moment before Clark splats to the ground, so the plan must be for him to instantaneously get his powers back rather than having them build up.

It's odd that only Sun Boy still has his old uniform - either he's been a prisoner a long time or he has some affection for his original look.

Last time Yera impersonated someone to fool Dirk, she was a blond, IIRC, and it was all a big joke. Why the revulsion now?

Does anyone realize that it takes about 7 minutes for light from the sun to reach Earth?

You want realistic science in your comic books? But it wouldn't be as exciting if Superman was falling for that long. He couldn't lose his flight ring before entering Earth's orbit or he would have burned up, so they were stuck with <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">the instant Sun Boy reaction.</span></span> Of course, the entire <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">kiss could be unnecessary, because the sun began reverting to yellow as soon as Sun Boy broke contact. It just took a couple of minutes for it to take effect. But, then, you would expect Brainy to understand that.</span></span>

From 1960ish to the end of Levitz, Dirk was the one guy whose uniform never changed at all, while others had their various disco uniforms or Giffen redesigns, so it is in keeping with his past that he wouldn't change.

Those preview pages look awesome.

I guess the unchanging costume fits with the '70s era hair he's got going on.

Poor guy, the rest of the world just keeps on changing around him. He picked out a look and darn it, he's sticking to it!

KG: In 52, I made no secret of the fact that I loved those scenes with Montoya/The Question and Batwoman, and their storyline. I really looked forward to breaking down those pieces. Not to slight any of the other storylines, but I think that was something that really resonated with me -- it was something about the Montoya character.

For Countdown? Hmmm... I didn't like Donna Troy at all. She was supposed to be in 52, but she was voted out by consensus. And Jason Todd, he wasn't exactly one of my favorites. And everyone knows I hate Karate Kid. One of the reasons I stuck with Countdown was that I'd have a chance to hurt him again!


PROOF THAT KEITH GRIFFEN SUCKS AND I DONT WANT HIM NEAR THE LEGION EVER!!!

http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/0...inal-weeks-of-countdown-to-final-crisis/

It's one thing to hate (or not like) a character. It's another to want to deprive others of any further enjoyment out of them. This will be Val's third death (not counting the Reboot team's wipping out of existence).

I think he hates Karate Kid because he envies him so much. How dare Val be a "normal" human standing shoulder to shoulder with these godlike beings. To have dedicated your life to an artform and master it completely. To defeat a foe three times your size either with bare fists or carefully chosen words. To have found inner peace. To be a commoner who wins the heart of a fairy princess. To have undergone a test of worthiness 1000 years from home to prove your honor to her family. And to have died valiantly to save the he woman loves more than life itself. No wonder Keith hates Val. [sarcasm]We should all hate him too![/sarcasm]

Sounds like the same sort of 'logic' that leads Didio to want Nightwing dead or one of the Buffy writers saying that she couldn't write for Xander, because he was 'just a human.'

If it doesn't have kewl powerz then the character is 'boring' to people with tsetse fly-like attention spans.

Still, I think I'd rather he be retired or returned to the grave than turned into BatGod...

but it's only comic-book dead. there's always a way back.

Heck, these days they don't even need an explanation for why people come back!

explanations cut into good quality time which TPTB could use to kill off more characters.

I actually kind of hope there's at least one scene in Final Crisis that is something like the following:

The heroes are engaged in a desperate battle with the villains. Just as one of the bad guys is about to overpower Jay Garrick, he is suddenly saved by a blast from Sylvester Pemberton! Jay says, "Thanks for the save Skyman! Hey, haven't you been dead for years?", to which Syl replies, "Well, that's a long story..." Then in the next panel Skyman is sliced in half by the bad guys, and it's never mentioned again!

any one know when does the three legion world is coming out