Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes R.E.B.E.L.S. #1, plus Action #874 and GLC #33 Spoilers

A very nice read with pretty pictures. It's been awhile since I enjoyed a Legion-related comic.

Vril escapes several bounty hunters to Earth where Supergirl has a message from Querl (3boot version) stored in her head.

Brainiac 2 has a flight belt and apparently a force shield (I hope it's at least not as sophisticated as B-5's). The Omega Men also appear and are written better than they've been in a long time.

I'm looking forward to this series. Bedard and Clarke are doing a great job.

ohhhhhhhh my god!! so cool!!! there were several times when i wasl ike "WHHAAAT THAT'S SO AWESOME!"

oh man, the thing with the cd was so great, that's so CLEVER!!

wasn't B-5's belt only a modified version of one of his ansistor?

The original Brainiac did have an impenetrable forcefield around his ship that kept Superman out.

R.E.B.E.L.S. was a lot of fun to read!

I enjoyed the writing and the book has some nice looking art too. The Vril - Querl meeting was cool. :]

I hope this series sticks around for awhile...

This was a pretty big week for Legion appearances considering their regular title just ended.


First off Rebels.

There is a major spoiler that could possibly be a reveal for LO3W, or a goof. There's also an uncredited appearance by someone of major interest to this board other than the advertised guest superheroine in this issue. Be forewarned when you click on the spoiler.

I really liked it. Tony Bedard is a very good writer and he always seems to have above average dialogue. The art was very good and also very Kitson-esque. Very clean and pretty stuff. This book got off to a great start and I anxiously await the next issue. If you liked the original dot Legion series, you'll like this IMO. You might even like it more, because Bedard's characters have a little something extra because of his dialogue IMO.

This appears to be continuing the 90's Legion/Rebels continuity, and I have literally no idea how they are going to pull that off. I'm going to read this series just to see what they come up with. Because that's Mon-El in Metropolis, not Valor....and how Vril Dox is tied to Brainy(different ones from different continuities, and now on different Earths) has always been complicated. Without a doubt, Vril is the biggest #$#@$ out of the heroic side of the Brainiac family tree...it's not even close.

On to the spoilers:

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Major: 3Boot Brainy makes an appearance as a hologram/mental construct in this issue in his Kitson designed costume. And he says he is a descendant of Vril Dox.

Why is this relevant? You can't be a descendant of someone from another Universe. This is either a major continuity goof, or else the 3boot is from an alternate future of the current DC Earth. I'm leaning towards goof, but Bedard isn't the type of writer that makes those sorts of mistakes.

And you know...3boot Brainy was kinda irate about the idea of not being from the same Universe as Supergirl in the last issue of L03W.


LOL, this descendant detail could also be caused because there really isn't a word for an ancestral counterpart on a parallel Earth. I guess Bedard could be forgiven for that type of goof since the word he needed to use doesn't actually exist. But Brainy is interested in Vril for a reason....he's interested in the family line not being extinguished.


It also dawned on me while reading this issue that the missing Cosmic Boy plotline could be resolved in this book. Bedard was kinda there when that plotline began.


John's characterization of 3Boot Brainy is very similar to Bedard's characterization of Vril Dox...it's easy to believe 3Boot Brainy is the one related to Vril based on recent characterization.

Supergirl is also in this issue and in fact she is the reason Brainy is able to appear. It seems Brainy loaded some information into her head when he sent her back, and he also sent a message to Vril Dox through time that Supergirl was carrying that information in her head.


And that's definitely not Validus.

I'll leave the rest of the review and other spoilers to others.
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Action 874:

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> I was expecting there to be more Mon-El in this story but basically he didn't show up till the end of the issue.

Something else else is eating the Phantom Zone and has killed everyone left in it but Mon. He asks Supes to let him out even though the lead in the air will kill him because he doesn't want to die a Phantom. He wants to "die like a man".

Supes lets him out and as the story ends Mon-El lies dying of lead poisoning in Superman's arms.

Call it a hunch, but I think ol' Mon's going to pull out of this one.

Tellus also makes a cameo appearance( once again in stasis) in the Omens and Origins backup story featuring the Guardian. I'm ready for poor Tellus to be let out of that tube. ASAP.


Oh yeah...if you're looking for Chameleon Boy, I think he's in Metropolis hanging out with Jim Harper.

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GLC #33:

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Not much Legion related here really but a big part of the issue takes place on Daxam so I included it for that reason. Mongul is making Daxam the home base of the Sinestro Corps and enslaves her population. Sodam Yat's parents are there and his Dad helps his Mom escape the planet to go find Yat.

It's interesting seeing Daxam played up so much after all these years, although I will admit this was a little too Great Darkness Saga-ey for me. It was much more awesome the first time I saw Daxam enslaved. But still...always cool to see a Legion world explored.

Trivial note: Sodam Yat's Mother is a blonde woman named Cara, and she kills a Sinestro Corps member without a ring or using her superpowers</span></span>


I liked all 3 stories, but the hightlight of the week for me was Rebels. I am very intrigued to see where Bedard is going with the stuff he has set up in this debut issue.

tribulus is sort of cute looking ;____;

what happened to the Princess Emerald with eye? She was supposed to be on the cover of #1 ---- and was replaced by Tyr???

I walked by the window display and the store was closed. I saw the cover and was baffled. so that s why I want to ask you guys.

The covers were switched for awhile. I replaced ours on the main page weeks ago. I think the girl was either written out of the story or won't be a part of the book for awhile and they wanted the covers to reflect it.

i actually really like this!


i was hoping for a new emerald empress and a fatal five homage but from the current cover i guess not.

is tribulus a "validus" or what? and is there a red "tellus" on the team? (gil disphan?) i like alien this team is and not just a bunch of humanoids.

Well, honestly I don't like this first issue.

Why put another alien telepath, when we have the original Telepath and the Tellus race, too...
Tribulus is simply a bad and ugly copy of Validus.
Where are Stealth, Lydea Mallor, Zena Moonstruck?

And please, why the artist draw a censured Supergirl? The skirt is too large!

i liked rebels #1, i found it interesting enough to pre-order issue #2. the art was very good, i already knew this artist from other books (see aquaman).
i was kind of surprised, in a bad way, by the ending, though:

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">i don't think that rebels #1 had anything to do with the ending of L3W. threeboot brainiac 5 obviously recorded that message in supergirl's mind way before he knew he came from a parallel world than new earth. johns made it quite clear in L3W #3 that the threeboot legion onestly thought to come from new earth's future. so, since supergirl left the 31st century way before L3W, when querl dox was even wearing his old costume, i think the message brainiac 2 saw was just, you know... too old.

anyway, i really don't get why DC allowed bedard to use WaK's brainiac 5. didn't didio just say that DC wants to head towards "a much clearer, iconic interpretation" of the legion? so why to keep confusing possible new readers by showing legionnaires from alternate realities? meh.</span></span>

Good point...but I still don't see what the part about: <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">the house of Dox ending with Vril meant then. That seems to indicate 3Boot Brainy wants to change the past or something.</span></span>

Why do you say that? I haven't seen the issue yet.

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*blinks*

Well what ever floats your boat. ;p

Man, I hope this series sticks around. I think it has some great potential. So if I liked R.E.B.E.L.S., should I bother checking out L.E.G.I.O.N. and the earlier run of R.E.B.E.L.S.?

Rocket Cat -- cool name.

From what I remember, the first few issues of the original L.E.G.I.O.N. (boy, is that a pain to type) were great from a character and mythology perspective -- they built on the excellent Invasion event, and really brought the space environment of the 30th century Legion into the 20th century DCU, to great advantage, and gave us a lot of good stuff, especially on Colu and Durla. There was some good comedy too. If you go back and read those issues, you will see the prototype for the way Brainiac 5 is portrayed for decades to come, especially the 3boot and what Matthew E calls the retroboot (the Johnsboot). Unfortunately, to my mind the series succumbed to the virus that has afflicted every team book since the 1980s -- the team must fall apart, preferably destroyed from within by one of its own, and then be rebuilt in some radically different manner. Giffen has been a serial abuser of this trope since the late 1980s and it's why I don't ever want him near the Legion again except as a reader (and a paying one, at that). But like I said, those first issues of the dot Legion were very influential for much that has come after.

Picked this up on a whim at the comic store (I had a gift certificate). Really enjoyed it. I only ever read a smattering of the L.E.G.I.O.N. title, it was out before my time. So I don't really know who anyone is except Virl.

But yeah, lots of zip in the dialogue, nice set-up, good dose of action (which most first issues miss these days, they are all set-up no action), you also have a nice reason to come back, the robot takeover.

So yeah, pleasantly surprised and will check this out when issue #2 comes out.

They show someone that strongly resembles him in the backup Omens and Origins story in one panel. I'm not 100% certain it's him, because they only show the back of his head...it's just that I can't think of many characters that share his distinguishing head features.

It's more likely to be Dubbilex.

Good call. If it was Cham then you'd think the silhouette would have pointy ears.

Dubbilex was my first thought but Dubbilex doesn't have antennae, he's got horns, and those are definitely antennae. And Dubbilex has pointy ears too...




The silhouette definitely has antennae with rounded tips ala Cham. And Tellus is in the same picture.


It certainly might not be Cham but they put that character in silhouette for a reason, and I don't think they'd do it if it was just Dubbilex.

Oops.
Shutting up.

I just wish I had access to a scanner so all interested parties could see the silhouette, it would definitely spark some discussion.

A-ha so this where the discussion on this title was! Thanks for the link Nightcrawler.


I'll just give a major kudos to Tony Bedard for this issue. He's a very under-rated writer IMO.

I have the picture but I can't post it. If someone tells me how I'll put it up.

It certainly looks like Cham's antennae but not his ears. And Tellus is out of the specimen jar