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This topic is a recreation of the one that was lost.

The Legion makes an appearance in JSA #51.

Here's page 10 of the issue...

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What a minute is that...

Blok?

And here's the remainder of their appearance...most of page 11:

Hmmm... when did Blok join in the reboot, and when did the Legion have that headquarters?

Methinks that someone didn't do their research before drawing that issue.

I think it's supposed to be a peek into the Legion's future.

And we have to remember that Blok is going to be one of the new Academy members in the upcoming issue (#26 I think). He's going to be a combination of Stone Boy and Blok.

I was going to mention that, but I couldn't decide if it needed spoiler space or not. So I just left it off altogether. It's Friday morning, I'm feeling a little lazy....

I figured this thread was a spoiler one anyone so I didn't even bother. Hope that didn't ruin a surprise for anyone.

Hmmm... well, if it's a glimpse of the future, then I guess at some point Kid Q is going to give her butt crack a break and is losing the thong.

Lardy will be disappointed

No KQ thong, but on the plus side: Mordru's winged hat!

Actually, it's one of many possible futures.

lil'rhino

I'm still holding to the theory that it's not really Blok, but a de-aged teen Darkseid!

My first thought was Darkseid too.
But Blok makes more sense...

That's how I see it right now, too. In the same way that DC One Million was a possible future.

I also tend to think that it's just a possible future -- but if not, if this is a hint of things to come (with Superboy and Blok in the mix), then also of note is that Ferro is back in human form.

It'd be cool if they did get headquartes like that. It's quite spiffy.

Eric

It's got to be a possible future, just like the one we saw in Wildfire's "Lost Earth" annual and the one we saw in the Young Justice "World at War" issue. I would have thought it might have been ad research, but the headquarters is just so unlike anything that the Legion has had. I think Kirk just drew the setting and characters he wanted to.

I tend to somewhat agree with you SLK. But I think Kirk must have had some help from TPTB as to what characters to use. Maybe just a few subtle suggestions.

I hate to say that this was my last issue of JSA for the forseeable future. I've lost confidence in John's ability to tell a simple, enjoyable story that doesn't seem like it's designed for a trade paperback. There was no reason why the "coda" couldn't have fit into the regular 5-issue story arc. JSA issues as of late (also Flash and Hawkman) seem to average 3 panels of art on each page with a threadbare plot that sputters along with no real depth. For some reason, I enjoy this approach on Flash, but it is not acceptable on a team book with a cast as large as JSA where many characters demand attention. I just get the feeling that he is trying to cover his lack of plot with big splash pages of heroes looking good in their costumes. Two-dollars and fifty-cents is too much to pay for a comic that takes two minutes to read.

(Edited - still groggy from the Great Darkness)

I'm also feeling less enthusiastic about the JSA lately -- part of it has to do with the plethora of dangled or hinted at plotlines that are either forgotten or seem to take forever to get to. There seem to be too many characters now (funny coming from a Legion reader) to give any of them any real depth.

Has anyone asked Kirk directly about why he drew the Legionnaires he drew and/or the HQ he created?

He posts frequently over on the Geoff Johns board, on the JSA section. Even though he's off the book, he still moderates and lurks and jokes around over there. I'm sure he'd answer if it was posed to him.

Not to answer my own question, but I did find this in a post basically telling Leonard "So Long and thanks For all the Fish...PART TWO " (as JSA #51 was his last issue as regular penciller)...


Quote: from Archipelago on 4:41 pm on Aug. 13, 2003
I LOVED your renditing of the LEGION. One question, why is BLOK in the picture? Just curious...

Leonard replied:
Because he was in the script.

I have no idea what this means for the Legion series, if he's coming back or whatever. I just draw what I'm told.

Most of the time.


Somebody followed up with:
What about the costume - were you given a picture reference, a description in the script, go by previous costumes??

And Leonard responded:
I was given reference for his original costume and told to change it a little so the style beter matched the current Legion uniforms.


And let's remember, Mr Kirk is drawing Legion Secret Files 2003, so we'll get to see more of his renditions of the team then!!

Blok in Legion is becoming more imminent....hmmm...will he appear alongside the Legion Academy in Legion #26? And Superboy, too...hmmmm....so will Live Wire (I believe, under the mask of Mekt Ranzz), and Element Lad. I wonder about Andromeda, Thunder, and Monstress...will they be a part of 45th anniversary? What about Supergirl, Laurel Kent...too many questions too many "what if"s....I will wait in about three months to find out the answers.

Wouldn't a de-aged teen Darkseid be an adolescent?

L'il Darkseid, anyone?

Ummm... Omni: I would recheck

1) The title of that thread

and, more importantly:

2) WHo ASKED ABOUT THE COSTUME!

http://www.geoffjohns.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=1488

Just call me "Oops Craig"

My apologies to you Somebody. You asked about Blok's costume.

As to the other fact, I wasn't actually trying to get the title of the thread correct, I was just paraphrasing. But I can see how that would be misleading to anyone who went looking for the source. Especially when I mistakenly credited the parties involved.

Thanks for pointing out these errors. I'm going to edit my earlier post, so's not to confuse people or miscredit-where-credit-is due!!

Craig (Oops or Omni, you be the judge).

Also, thanks for linking to the thread itself Somebody. I should have done that too, so people could see for themselves (as I'm sure they would want to do).

Just read JSA 51 and had to comment!

I for one am as excited about JSA as I've ever been. As far as pure fanboyism goes, JSA is right up there with The LEGION (as is Squadron Supreme) for me. I love how Geoff panders to Justice Society fans and I'm in the camp that the Legion appearance was a 'teaser' peek of the future. Geoff's big on those, and as he's DC's "Writer of Choice" right now, he probably had full approval from TPTB to do this.

I'm thrilled for Blok's fans. No one should be without their favorite character. Of course, as it's a Stone Boy/Blok posboot hybrid, it won't be EXACTLY the same (Dryad was destroyed, remember) but close enough...

AR Alert!

Justice Society of America #1 apparently has some important Legion-related appearances.

perhaps the LEGION will be the 3rd team, to join in the JLA / JSA teamup !!??

i sure hope so ......

Matthew.

damn i was about to report that nightcrawler...all ill say is greybird should get JSA 1

That certainly was a fun surprise.

That last page had me cheer out loud.

Can't wait unitl "she" gets into the main book.

one thing I have noticed about Geoff's writing is that he usally likes to pick up unused story threads.

I am not that versed in Legion History. but tell me this, why would dawnstar be on Thanagar looking for Starman? did the planet figure in some past legion story.

The page in question.

The other Legion reference:

Where did we get that... It does fit if you think of Dawnstar as a Hawkman/Hawkgirl/Hawkwoman Legacy. I was a little creeped out by the borg/necromongers, but those last few pages were amazing.

Starman says something about the star on Thanagar, which Geoff Johns has confirmed in a reference to Dawnstar.

It's great to see Johns picking up on Legion tropes for the new JSA book. Of course, he already has a track record of turning Mordru into a cool villain, and he made good (if illusory) use of the LSH in Power Girl's "origin" story. It's always good to see the current-day DCU reaching out to the Legion, rather than vice-versa.

I second you, DoubleChinner!

As for Dawnstar, I expect her place of origin will be changed to Thanagar as opposed to her original Amerind descent. I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened sooner, since Thanagar has much more background and story possibilities than 70's-ish Starhaven.

The use of LSH characters - Mordru in JSA starting a few years back, plus the LSV in Superman/Batman and the LSH cartoon have all been a big boost to the current LSH without muddying the Waid storyline.

Remember this? I wonder if Three Worlds was a glimmer in Johns' eye when this was envisioned?

I know I've seen that before, but for the life of me I can't remember from where. Pray tell, where is it from?

Ending of JSA #51.

Thanks.