Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Spaceopoly Bat-Villain Idol

Since there seems to be a lot of activity in this thread, I'm going to hold off from giving the final results until tomorrow night.

I keep picturing the double page spread from DC Blue Ribbon Digest #14. I wish I still had that (or could find a scan of that page).

EDIT: Found a Scan

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78897/2831724-batman_s_rogues_gallery.jpg

Captain Stingaree is in there, but not important enough for Idol!

Thanks Dave!

Several I do not know here.

Thoth, Isn't Captain Stingaree on our list?

To the right of Riddler, I only know Stingaree, Blockbuster and Catwoman

On the left, I don't know the guy immediately left of Clayface and the two between Mr Freeze and Gentleman Ghost

I meant to have survived as long as the other important characters in Idol.

Oh, that clears it up. Thanks.

(Decides not to say that I didn't even notice his elimination... d'oh!)

Thank you for the good turn-out this round. It is a tie between Man-Bat and The Ventriloquist for first place this round.

Man-Bat 59 100%
Ventriloquist I (Arnold) 59 100%
Catwoman (Golden Age) 54 92%
Deadshot 53 90%
Mister Freeze (Bronze Age) 53 90%
Talia Al Ghul 53 90%
Cavalier 52 88%
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) 52 88%
Joker (Silver Age) 51 86%
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 51 86%
Scarecrow 51 86%
Two-Face (Golden Age) 51 86%
Dr. Phosphorous 50 85%
Killer Croc (Bronze Age) 50 85%
Mister Freeze (Silver Age) 50 85%
Maxie Zeus 48 81%
Catman (Pre-New 52) 47 81%
Killer Moth 47 81%
Mad-Hatter 47 81%
Anarky 46 78%
Catwoman (Silver Age) 46 78%
Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age) 46 78%
Hugo Strange 46 78%
Ra's Al-Ghul 46 78%
Riddler (Silver Age) 46 78%
Tweedledee 46 78%
Tweedledum (Dumfree) 46 78%
Black Mask 45 76%
Copperhead 45 76%
Calendar Man (Silver Age) 44 75%
KGBeast 44 75%
Magpie 44 75%
Ratcatcher 44 75%
Nocturna 43 73%
Black Spider 42 71%

Bottom-Tier This Round
Harley Quinn 41 69% <-- Your Game Host is Saddened by This Development

Catman (Silver Age) 40 68%
Red Hood (Silver Age) 40 68%
Blockbuster I 39 66%
Cluemaster 39 66%
Crime Doctor 39 66%
Kite-Man 39 66%
Monk 39 66%
Outsider 39 66%
Joe Chill 38 64%
Penguin (Silver Age) 38 64%
Signalman 38 64%
Spellbinder I 37 63%
Spook 37 63%
Sterling Silversmith 37 63%
Crazy Quilt 36 61%


These are the characters eliminated this round:

Dr. Double X 35 59%
Dr. Tzin-Tzin 35 59%
Clayface III (Payne) (Bronze Age) 34 58%
Wrath 34 58%
Electrocutioner I 33 56%
Firefly 32 54%
Dr. Death 30 51%
Tony Zucco 29 49%
Ubu 28 47%
Polka-Dot Man 21 36%

Next Round will start tomorrow night.

Interesting how tight it is. Firefly and Electrocutioner go from the mid-70's to being eliminated (but only changed their vote by 7 points each). Similarly, Mad Hatter goes from a solid second to mid-tier, with only a few votes swapped out.

We are in the early rounds still, but there have been cases before where fan faves were eliminated early because people thought they would be safe, and did not give them as many points.

I suspect that is not the case here though, as we do not have a finite number of points to give.

The total has been whittled down to 51. I'm going to keep the rankings this way until we have it down to about 20 characters. If we have an odd number of characters that doesn't have 5 in it, I will do a Wild Card Round so that we get even numbers.

Once the list gets that short, I will change the ranking system.

I just read that there was a second Wrath. I was surprised that he made it even a few rounds, but if there were two of them... The one I liked was from the impressively done DC Special from the mid '80s.

The Electrocutioner I know mainly from a Vigilante cover at the back of Who's Who. I did pick up the first couple of issues of Vigilante years later, and was surprised at how poor it was. Not what I was expecting after the build up form Teen Titans.

Tzin-Tzin and Firefly are only Who's Who entries for me. I had to google Ubu.

Time for the next round!

Anarky
Black Mask
Black Spider
Blockbuster I
Calendar Man (Silver Age)
Catman (Pre-New 52)
Catman (Silver Age)
Catwoman (Golden Age)
Catwoman (Silver Age)
Cavalier
Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age)
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age)
Cluemaster
Copperhead
Crazy Quilt
Crime Doctor
Deadshot
Dr. Phosphorous
Harley Quinn
Hugo Strange
Joe Chill
Joker (Silver Age)
KGBeast
Killer Croc (Bronze Age)
Killer Moth
Kite-Man
Mad-Hatter
Magpie
Man-Bat
Maxie Zeus
Mister Freeze (Bronze Age)
Mister Freeze (Silver Age)
Monk
Nocturna
Outsider
Penguin (Silver Age)
Poison Ivy (Silver Age)
Ra's Al-Ghul
Ratcatcher
Red Hood (Silver Age)
Riddler (Silver Age)
Scarecrow
Signalman
Spellbinder I
Spook
Sterling Silversmith
Talia Al Ghul
Tweedledee
Tweedledum (Dumfree)
Two-Face (Golden Age)
Ventriloquist I (Arnold)

Anarkym 5
Black Mask 8
Black Spider 9
Blockbuster I 9
Calendar Man (Silver Age) 10
Catman (Pre-New 52) 1
Catman (Silver Age)10
Catwoman (Golden Age)1
Catwoman (Silver Age)10
Cavalier 9
Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age) 1
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) 3
Cluemaster 10
Copperhead 4
Crazy Quilt 10
Crime Doctor 5
Deadshot 1
Dr. Phosphorous 2
Harley Quinn 1
Hugo Strange 3
Joe Chill 4
Joker (Silver Age) 1
KGBeast 8
Killer Croc (Bronze Age) 7
Killer Moth 9
Kite-Man 10
Mad-Hatter 2
Magpie 6
Man-Bat 7
Maxie Zeus 8
Mister Freeze (Bronze Age) 4
Mister Freeze (Silver Age) 3
Monk 1
Nocturna 4
Outsider 9
Penguin (Silver Age) 10
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 1
Ra's Al-Ghul 1
Ratcatcher 8
Red Hood (Silver Age) 1
Riddler (Silver Age) 1
Scarecrow 1
Signalman 10
Spellbinder I 7
Spook 10
Sterling Silversmith 10
Talia Al Ghul 2
Tweedledee 1
Tweedledum (Dumfree) 1
Two-Face (Golden Age) 1
Ventriloquist I (Arnold) 1

On characters not included; in retrospect I wished I could have include more Golden Age villains but I discovered lots of them were sent to the electric chair after their first appearance!

Anarky 6
Black Mask 5
Black Spider 6
Blockbuster I 7
Calendar Man (Silver Age) 3
Catman (Pre-New 52) 1
Catman (Silver Age) 5
Catwoman (Golden Age) 5
Catwoman (Silver Age) 7
Cavalier 4
Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age) 5
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) 8
Cluemaster 3
Copperhead 8
Crazy Quilt 2
Crime Doctor 5
Deadshot 10
Dr. Phosphorous 6
Harley Quinn 6
Hugo Strange 7
Joe Chill 7
Joker (Silver Age) 8
KGBeast 5
Killer Croc (Bronze Age) 9
Killer Moth 7
Kite-Man 2
Mad-Hatter 8
Magpie 6
Man-Bat 10
Maxie Zeus 7
Mister Freeze (Bronze Age) 7
Mister Freeze (Silver Age) 7
Monk 5
Nocturna 6
Outsider 5
Penguin (Silver Age) 8
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 7
Ra's Al-Ghul 9
Ratcatcher 6
Red Hood (Silver Age) 4
Riddler (Silver Age) 8
Scarecrow 9
Signalman 1
Spellbinder I 1
Spook 6
Sterling Silversmith 7
Talia Al Ghul 9
Tweedledee 7
Tweedledum (Dumfree) 7
Two-Face (Golden Age) 8
Ventriloquist I (Arnold) 7

Anarky 2
Black Mask 5
Black Spider 3
Blockbuster I 8
Calendar Man (Silver Age) 4
Catman (Pre-New 52) 1
Catman (Silver Age) 2
Catwoman (Golden Age) 1
Catwoman (Silver Age) 2
Cavalier 6
Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age) 7
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) 6
Cluemaster 9
Copperhead 8
Crazy Quilt 6
Crime Doctor 5
Deadshot 1
Dr. Phosphorous 9
Harley Quinn 2
Hugo Strange 4
Joe Chill 7
Joker (Silver Age) 4
KGBeast 5
Killer Croc (Bronze Age) 7
Killer Moth 5
Kite-Man 2
Mad-Hatter 6
Magpie 8
Man-Bat 6
Maxie Zeus 7
Mister Freeze (Bronze Age) 8
Mister Freeze (Silver Age) 9
Monk 10
Nocturna 9
Outsider 8
Penguin (Silver Age) 6
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) 4
Ra's Al-Ghul 3
Ratcatcher 7
Red Hood (Silver Age) 2
Riddler (Silver Age) 4
Scarecrow 5
Signalman 7
Spellbinder I 8
Spook 9
Sterling Silversmith 9
Talia Al Ghul 4
Tweedledee 8
Tweedledum (Dumfree) 7
Two-Face (Golden Age) 6
Ventriloquist I (Arnold) 4

Anarky...1
Black Mask...10
Black Spider...1
Blockbuster I...1
Calendar Man (Silver Age)...1
Catman (Pre-New 52)...10
Catman (Silver Age)...1
Catwoman (Golden Age)...10
Catwoman (Silver Age)...10
Cavalier...1
Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age)...10
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age)...1
Cluemaster...1
Copperhead...10
Crazy Quilt...1
Crime Doctor...10
Deadshot...10
Dr. Phosphorous...1
Harley Quinn...10
Hugo Strange...10
Joe Chill...10
Joker (Silver Age)...10
KGBeast...1
Killer Croc (Bronze Age)...1
Killer Moth...1
Kite-Man...1
Mad-Hatter...10
Magpie...1
Man-Bat...1
Maxie Zeus...1
Mister Freeze (Bronze Age)...10
Mister Freeze (Silver Age)...10
Monk...10
Nocturna...1
Outsider...10
Penguin (Silver Age)...10
Poison Ivy (Silver Age)...10
Ra's Al-Ghul...10
Ratcatcher...1
Red Hood (Silver Age)...10
Riddler (Silver Age)...10
Scarecrow...10
Signalman...1
Spellbinder I...1
Spook...1
Sterling Silversmith...1
Talia Al Ghul...10
Tweedledee...10
Tweedledum (Dumfree)...10
Two-Face (Golden Age)...10
Ventriloquist I (Arnold)...1

Anarky - 1
Black Mask - 10
Black Spider - 10
Blockbuster I - 10
Calendar Man (Silver Age) - 10
Catman (Pre-New 52) - 1
Catman (Silver Age) - 10
Catwoman (Golden Age) - 1
Catwoman (Silver Age) - 1
Cavalier -1
Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age) - 1
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) - 1
Cluemaster - 10
Copperhead - 1
Crazy Quilt - 10
Crime Doctor - 10
Deadshot- 1
Dr. Phosphorous - 10
Harley Quinn - 1
Hugo Strange - 10
Joe Chill - 10
Joker (Silver Age) - 1
KGBeast - 10
Killer Croc (Bronze Age) - 10
Killer Moth - 10
Kite-Man - 10
Mad-Hatter - 10
Magpie- 10
Man-Bat- 10
Maxie Zeus- 10
Mister Freeze (Bronze Age) - 1
Mister Freeze (Silver Age) - 1
Monk - 10
Nocturna - 10
Outsider - 10
Penguin (Silver Age) - 1
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) - 1
Ra's Al-Ghul - 10
Ratcatcher - 10
Red Hood (Silver Age) - 10
Riddler (Silver Age) - 1
Scarecrow - 1
Signalman - 10
Spellbinder I - 10
Spook - 10
Sterling Silversmith - 10
Talia Al Ghul - 1
Tweedledee - 10
Tweedledum (Dumfree) - 10
Two-Face (Golden Age) - 10
Ventriloquist I (Arnold) - 1

Anarky -10
Black Mask -6
Black Spider -4
Blockbuster I -4
Calendar Man (Silver Age) -7
Catman (Pre-New 52) -6
Catman (Silver Age) -4
Catwoman (Golden Age) -3
Catwoman (Silver Age) - 3
Cavalier -4
Clayface I (Karlo) (Golden Age) -2
Clayface II (Hagen) (Silver Age) -1
Cluemaster -6
Copperhead -3
Crazy Quilt -6
Crime Doctor -6
Deadshot -1
Dr. Phosphorous –3
Harley Quinn -10
Hugo Strange -5
Joe Chill - 7
Joker (Silver Age) -3
KGBeast - 7
Killer Croc (Bronze Age) -3
Killer Moth -5
Kite-Man -6
Mad-Hatter -3
Magpie -8
Man-Bat - 3
Maxie Zeus -5
Mister Freeze (Bronze Age) -6
Mister Freeze (Silver Age) -6
Monk -10
Nocturna -1
Outsider -3
Penguin (Silver Age) - 6
Poison Ivy (Silver Age) -3
Ra's Al-Ghul -6
Ratcatcher -5
Red Hood (Silver Age) - 4
Riddler (Silver Age) -4
Scarecrow -3
Signalman -4
Spellbinder I -5
Spook -10
Sterling Silversmith -8
Talia Al Ghul -6
Tweedledee -3
Tweedledum (Dumfree) -3
Two-Face (Golden Age) -3
Ventriloquist I (Arnold) -3

Looks like Blacula and I have the same ruthless idea 1s and 10s only.

NOTE: Talia Al Ghul is numberless there Ibbs. And Two Face and spellbinder actually.

That should certainly polarise some of the outcomes. I've started along that path, but I was left in the dust by you two passing me by.

Interesting to see the differences between the two of you.

Thanks for the catch, thoth! Going back and editing...

Yes. Except you gave all of your 1s and 10s to the wrong characters.

I am always willing to change my voting, if I can be... convinced

haha OK. I get the impression from your voting and a couple of things you mentioned earlier that you don't know many Bat-villains beyond the mainstream (boring ) ones, so here's a guide to all of the cool characters you're missing out on:

Black Spider (Eric Needham):

* Batman's first recurring black villain (I think).
* More of a Punisher-like anti-hero rather than a villain since he only went after / killed drug dealers (something to do with avenging a family member who got hooked on drugs or something, it was all very 70s).
* Possessor of a funky costume and star of the awesome covers linked below.
* Fun fact: He was one of the few DC characters that Neil Gaiman used in his classic Sandman run, where he was the love interest of Lyta (Fury) Hall. How many Batman villains can say they dated Wonder Woman's daughter?!

http://www.comics.org/issue/30239/cover/4/
http://www.comics.org/issue/32820/cover/4/

Blockbuster I (Mark Desmond):

* A lot more interesting than his boring businessman-Lex Luthor clone brother.
* One of the Batman villains that appeared most frequently in other comics during the 70s thanks to his membership in the Secret Society of Super-Villains.
* More of a misguided simpleton brute than a true villain.
* Fun fact: Bruce Wayne saved him from drowning when he was a boy so even though he hates the sight of Batman (something to do with being brainwashed by his brother I think), he was sometimes calmed down by Batman taking off his mask to reveal that he was Bruce Wayne underneath. One of the more unorthodox ways that Batman has won a fight!

http://www.comics.org/issue/19617/cover/4/
http://www.comics.org/issue/21247/cover/4/

Catman (Thomas Blake) (Silver Age):

* A lot more fun than the generic pre-New 52 version that Gail Simone turned him into (although I'm sure other people will disagree with me on that).
* A cool combination of Batman and Catwoman who often provided the conflict in their love triangle. What's not to love?
* I love his garish yellow and orange colour scheme and he also starred on some awesome covers.
* Fun fact: Track down the excellent story arc 'Misfits' in Shadow of the Bat if you can. A fun 3 (or 4?) parter in which Catman and a handful of other C-grade villains kidnap Bruce Wayne, Commissioner Gordon and the mayor of Gotham and lock them in a cell, and Batman has to find a way to save the day without revealing his identity. Old school comicing!

http://www.comics.org/issue/35911/cover/4/
http://www.comics.org/issue/47722/

Crazy Quilt (unrevealed):

* One of the very few (or maybe even only?) Batman villains who didn't start off as a Batman villain! He first appeared as a foe of the Boy Commandos drawn by Jack Kirby! He went on to menace them a number of times and even had an imposter steal his identity in an issue of Blackhawk before he ever faced Batman.
* The possessor of one of the most garish and amazing costumes in all of comics. And the star of the awesome Gen Colan cover linked below.
* Fun fact: One of the few Batman villains who was actually more of a Robin villain. (The Boy Wonder accidentally blinded him or something.)

http://www.comics.org/issue/5506/cover/4/
http://www.comics.org/issue/38353/

Need to get to bed now so Bat-Villain 101 will have to be postponed until tomorrow.

Thank you, Blacula! This is mucho helpful.

Always happy to learn more about comic books