Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Spaceopoly Kill This Thread XVIII - The Debutante Death

Well, as Quislet said posts do not totally have to be on point...

Lori Lemaris would have qualified for the Legion with her "ability to survive underwater" powers, wouldn't she?

(but my complulsion to remain on-topic is strong, so... I don't think Lori's powers were quite as targeted as Nemesis Kid's, yeah. Her H-Dial often gave her abilities that could have been useful for a given situation, but they weren't always direct answers to said situation, unlike with Nemesis Kid)

The winning post has to be clearly related to one of the previous five posts. I would say the transition from Nemesis Kid to Nemesis counts. A post about Nike shoes would not count, even though one might argue that "Nike is named after the goddess of victory, and Nemesis Kid's power is that he always wins...". The connection doesn't seem strong enough. To me, at least.

Of course, one can post a non-sequitor, but one can't win with it. Nor can one win with a post responding to a non-sequitor. Responses to responses to non-sequitor can win, however.

Incidentally, I've always felt Nemesis Kid to be among the most poorly used characters in Legion history.

Because of a duplicated Duo Damsel defeating him, or because of Projectra defeating him without a clear explanation of how she got through his power?

Both. He comes off pretty lame in pretty much all of his appearances, but there's a lot of potential for a cool character there.

I really wish he'd been included either in SW6 or the Reboot.

A “good” Nemesis Kid would be interesting. I can see how his power would give some writers problems though

He's definitely a bit challenge to write, but what makes him interesting is that he is both extremely powerful and yet has some major limitations. Besides stuff like only working against single opponents, there's also the fact that just because he adapts whatever power would be most useful to defeat a certain enemy, that doesn't mean that it's obvious how that power is useful. So imagine him fighting Mordru, his power responds by adapting terrakinesis, but then he still has to figure out that he needs to use it to bury Mordru rather than, say, pelt him with rocks.

It’s very H -Dialish. I wonder if Nemesis Kid’s power considers the powers and skills of his companions too. Lori Morning once gained ice powers to fight the Composite Durlan, but could not have beaten him without Element Lad’s plan and powers

I'd be wondering how his power knew to give him terrakinesis. It would be as though his power could determine the weakness, even if it's user couldn't. The frustrated power is just waiting for its user to catch up. But since Nemesis Kid always gets an out, the power may also prod him along in the right direction too. If he died waiting for a colleague to plan something, then the power wouldn't be working effectively.

So:-

- Does the power have access to the Multiverse, where it goes through all the options to defeat Mordru.
- Is it precognitive, sees how it turns out and then puts that chain of events into practice.
- Does it alter reality to effectively give an opponent a weakness that it can then exploit.
- Does the power shift. Initially, it would protect against magic, then perhaps provide him with a body of iron. Then, if Mordru showed any weakness to being buried, shift to something more telekinetic.

In the same line. IIRC when he fought Superboy, he said that his power made him twice as strong as Superboy. However, even being twice as strong would not guarantee winning the fight. SUperboy, having had his powers for a longer time, would know the best ways to use them and ways to negate the power that Nemesis Kid would not be aware of.

I don’t think the power can change opponents, it only changes Nemesis Kid himself.

Which is why Projectra killing him was ludicrous. I would assume the power would be best at keeping Nemesis Kid alive - wasn’t there an instance when his power teleported him away automatically?

That would then mean that his power auto-activates...

Another option would be that his power only works against super powered opponents, so any ordinary human could shoot him. and accidents and natural disasters would do him in....

My point wasn't that Nemesis Kid's power would change Superboy, but that Superboy would have more experience using his power which Nemesis Kid now had. And that experience would give Superboy an edge even though Nemesis Kid was stronger.

It seems like it is a cool power, but in operation it brings up a lot of questions.

I think it should work against non-powered opponents, but not against accidents/disasters.

The way I see it, the basic power is that when in any sort of competition with another individual, his power analyzes that individual and gives him whatever ability is needed to defeat that individual in that competition. That can be a matter of giving him the ability to exploit an opponent's weakness, or just making him better (more powerful) than his opponent. He has no control over what power he adapts, but automatically know what the power is, even he doesn't necessarily know why this particular power is the one chosen. When faced with multiple opponents, or with obvious defeat, his power should generally shift to survival mode, allowing him to "not be beaten", even if he can't win.

I like those two elements - that he instinctively knows what his power is (but may need to figure out how he should apply it effectively), and the shift to survival mode in certain situations



I was responding to one of thoth’s bullets, where he asked if Nemesis Kid’s power changes reality

Reality is over-rated.

Virtual reality is better

I only did virtual reality once. I was not impressed.

Maybe it wasn’t really virtual reality

Maybe this is a virtual reality.

Take the red pill... no, the blue pill!

I only take placeboes

It looks like we will have to slip the pills into one of the few things that you eat.

The Placebo song I remember most was Pure Morning. But the lead singer was unhappy enough with it that they didn't perform it for almost a decade.

Many artists become ashamed of some of their work

It's tactful not to alienate fans by rubbishing what could have got them interested in the first place.

“They changed it, now it sucks!”