Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Every. Legionnaire. Ever. (The George Perez scorecard)

So, Geoff Johns has reportedly said at ComiCon that in Legion of Three Worlds, George Perez will draw "every Legionnaire ever."

Can he do it? How many characters is that, even? Well, let's run the tally and see how many characters we can come up with, even when we limit ourselves to three known universes (reboot, threeboot and rebooted-preboot):

1. Cosmic Boy - preboot,stick up his butt
2. Cosmic Boy - reboot, bigger stick up his butt
3. Cosmic Boy - threeboot, biggest stick up his butt
4. Saturn Girl - preboot, MILF hussey
5. Saturn Girl - reboot, manipulative hussey
6. Saturn Girl - threeboot, mute hussey
7. Lightning Lad - preboot
8. Live Wire - reboot, merged with Element Lad
9. Lightning Lad - threeboot, acts lately like he's the one with a Proty in his head
10. Phantom Girl - preboot
11. Phantom Girl - reboot mama (points if we see Phase. Double points if we see missing third self)
12. Phantom Girl - threeboot distracted girl
13. Triplicate Girl - DEAD, bodies on Shanghalla, someplace unknown (to me), and in the bellies of a million dirty rats.
14. Triad - reboot
15. Triplicate Girl - threeboot, one of many
16. Chameleon Boy - preboot, does Johns version count Legionnaires team?
17. Chameleon - reboot Pope Daggle
18. Chameleon - threeboot weirdo Legionnaire
19. Colossal Boy - preboot, married to Yera
20. Leviathan - DEAD
21. Colossal Boy - threeboot, used to be Micro Lad
22. Invisible Kid - preboot DEAD
23. Invisible Kid - reboot boy toy
24. Invisible Kid - threeboot bad boy
25. Kid Quantum - preboot, but, if TMK has been wiped, what of their shoehorns?
26. Kid Quantum - reboot, DEAD
27. Star Boy - preboot, schitzo JSA member
28. Star Boy - reboot, white
29. Star Boy - threeboot, black
30. Superboy - preboot, Superman when he was a boy
31. Superboy - reboot, Superman when he was a clone
32. Superboy - pocket universe
33. Supergirl - pre Crisis DEAD
34. Supergirl - threebood, only dead above the shoulders
35. Brainiac 5 - preboot
36. Brainiac 5.1 - reboot
37. Brainiac 5 - threeboot
38. Sun Boy - preboot skirt chaser
39. Sun Boy - threeboot, non member
40. Dirk Morgna - reboot, non member
41. Shrinking Violet - preboot militant lesbian
42. LeVIathan - reboot, mostly confused
43. Atom Girl - threeboot, militant of unknown orientaton
44. Bouncing Boy - preboot, often depowered
45. Chuck Taine - reboot, never powered
46. Mon-El - preboot, Superboy's big brother
47. M'Onel - reboot Valorous seeder of worlds
48. Mon-El - threeboot, easily manipulated
49. Ultra Boy - preboot tough guy
50. Ultra Boy - reboot jock/thug
51. Ultra Boy - threeboot delinquent
52. Matter-Eater Lad - preboot, semi-sane Senator
53. Tenzil Ken - reboot, semi-sane team chef
54. Tenzil Ken - threeboot, mostly sane UP official
55. Element Lad - preboot profem preferrer
56. Element Lad - reboot Progenitor DEAD
57. Element Lad - threeboot tactile transmuter
58. Kinetix - reboot, cool till the tail
59. XS - reboot speedster
60. Gates - reboot bug 'poter
61. Lightning Lass - preboot FOV (friend of Vi)
62. Spark - reboot friend of guys
63. Light Ladd- threeboot friend of just about anyone willin'
64. Dream Girl - preboot prognosticator
65. Dreamer - reboot nacoleptic ditz
66. Dream Girl - reboot DEAD, or maybe not
67. Timber Worl - preboot simpleton
68. Timber Wolf - reboot wolf boy
69. Timber Wolf - threeboot badass
70. Shadow Lass - preboot, Wife of Mon
71. Umbra - reboot, friend on none
72. Shadow Lass- threeboot, warrior chick
73. Chemical King - preboot DEAD
74. Karate Kid - preboot DEAD, then undead, now DEAD again.
75. Karate Kid - reboot zen master
76. Karate Kid - threeboot OK
77. Sensor Girl - preboot, how'd she come to be without a dead Val?
78. Sensor - reboot semi-snekkie
79. Princess Projecta- threeboot, spoiled thief
80. Nemesis Kid - preboot, traitor, can't be dead if preboot Val lives.
81. Wildfire - preboot, now son of Red Tornado?
82. Wildfire - reboot amalgamated energy being
83. Wildfire - threeboot early applicant
84. Dawnstar - preboot winged Amerinid
85. Shikari - reboot winged insectivoid
86. Blok - preboot undead rock guy
87. Quantum Queen - preboot adult Legionnaire
88. Power Boy - preboot Adult Legionnaire
89. Reflect - preboot Adult Legionnaire
90. False-Pretences Lad - preboot
91. Command Kid - preboot
92. Dynamo Boy - preboot
93. Gear- reboot android boy
94. Polar Boy - preboot substitute
95. Magnetic Kid - preboot DEAD brother
96. Ferro Lad - preboot DEAD hero
97. Ferro - reboot fashionista
98. Quislet - preboot boop-a-doop
99. Tellus - preboot DEAD?
100. Thunder - reboot Supergirl stand-in
101. Laurel Gand - TMK Supergirl stand in, part of John's boot?
102. Andromeda - reboot xenophbic Supergirl stand-in
103. Krypto - preboot pet
104. Streaky - preboot pet
105. Beppo - preboot pet
106. Comet - preboot pet
107. Proty II - preboot don't-call-him-a-pet
108. Night Girl - preboot
109. Chameleon Girl - preboot Yera
110. Stone Boy - preboot
111. Chlorophyll Kid - preboot
112. Fire-Lad - preboot
113. Color Kid - prebbot
114. Porcupine Pete - preboot
115. Infectuous Lass- preboot
116. Kono - preboot, TMK
117. Computo - preboot, TMB
118. Dragonmage - preboot, TMB
119. Felderweb - preboot Khund
120. Fire-Fist - preboot Khund
121. Veilmist - preboot Khund
122. Blood Claw - preboot Khund
123. Theena - threeboot tv girl
124. Elastic Lad - preboot Jimmy
125. Insect Queen - preboot Lana
126. Pete Ross - preboot Pete
127. Kid Psycho - preboot DEAD
128. Tyroc - preboot OOOUUUIIIEEEE!!!!
129. Invisible Kid II - preboot Jacques
130. M'Rissey - threeboot business manager
131. Dream Boy - threeboot walk-on
132. Kent Shakespeare - TMK not Superboy
133. Impulse - reboot sort-of member (per Brainy)
134. Karate Kid II - preboot hiding from Giffen
135. Nightwind - 5YG member, but did Johnsboot ever go there?
136. Crystal Kid - 5YG
137. Atmos - 5YG
138. Storm Boy - 5YG
139. Visi-Lad - 5YG
140. Calamity King - 5YG
141. Echo - 5YG
142. Celeste/Neon - TMK
143. Reflex - TMK
144. Spider-Girl - TMK
145. White Witch - preboot Naltorian
146. White Witch - reboot daughter of Mordru (nonmember)
147. Mago - reboot depowered Braalian
148. Monstress - reboot DEAD debutante
149. Kid Quantum II - reboot sister act
150. Catspaw - SW6, if it still counts
151. Shadow Kid - TMK cousin act
152. Fortress Lad - Perez wouoldn't dare
153. Unknown Boy - preboot mystery legionnaire
154. Size Lad - preboot infiltrator
155. Magnetic Kid - preboot infiltrator
156. Blackout Boy - preboot infiltrator
157. The Weirdo Legionnaire - another one Perez won't dare touch
158. Sir Prize - preboot mystery legionnaire
159. Miss Terius - preboot mystery legionnaire
160. Biron the Bowman - should get a cameo, at least
161. Blockade Boy II - idib
162. 50,000 unnamed teenagers - threeboot open door policy
163. Dev-Em - nonmember deserving of cameo
164. Dragonmage - reboot petulant nonmember




more to come . . .

Hm. Can't wait to see what False Pretenses Lad looks like.

Of course, don't wait on me. Feel free to add to the list

#122, 'other Khund' is named Blood Claw.

131. Dream Boy - threeboot walk-on

I suspect that we're going to find that #46 and #48 are the same person, but that can wait upon the event.

Lots of missing names from the Five Year Gap and Five Years Later Legion, if we want them: Kent Shakespeare/Impulse, Karate Kid II/Myg, Nightwind, Crystal Kid, Atmos, Storm Boy, Visi-Lad, Calamity King, Echo, Celeste/Neon, Devlin/Reflex, Spider Girl/Wave.

From the reboot there's Magno, Monstress, Superboy II/Kon-El, Kid Quantum II.

Catspaw from the SW6 Legion.

The way I figure it, the Karate Kid and Luornu who died in Countdown were rescued from their original deaths in order to be sent back in time, so a) the consequences of their original deaths still exist in Johns's continuity, and b) that means that there's still a living Luornu in Johns's 31st century. I may be wrong, of course.

Y'know, there's ONE version of Valor that died. Dead. Never made it to the 30th Century. Glorith manipulated a buncha junk and killed him when he wouldn't play the game by her rules.
Only after his death did a time traveling version of Lar Gand "take his place in history". That is, suffer through the Phantom Zone a second time!
Now it seems the history of his solo title has gone the way of the Byrneboot Superman. Of course it was a part of massive group of time parodoxes.. paradoxii?..(the theme of that year's crossovers) and was subsequently ignored as if it had never happened at all.

Oh please, oh please, oh please...

Preboot... Not TMK? Also count Dragonmage, reboot (Legionnaires #43, etc.) since you're getting non-Legionnaire versions too. Count reboot Jacques and you'll also get (assumably) a reboot Danielle Foccart. Bet you a stack of mint quality Adventure Comics that Perez draws two-thirds of "every Legion character" crammed in a pagespread.

One more thing... I'm not so sure if Perez would feature the non-canonical elements of Legion, like the honorary Legionnaires or the superpets (if alien beings are members, I guess animals are too...)

But since the other version of Valor was the SW6 time-sliced clone of the first version, they're actually the same version, just looped in time.

And I think that the first part of his series, the world-seeding part, is potentially still in continuity. (Although I'm not sure how that would work, exactly.)

Don't forget White Witch!

BTW, last week I didn't make it to my CBS on Wednesday because the sky opened up and we had some terrible thunder storms with hail, lightning etc. (Nasty day!) Anyway, I stopped by on Thursday instead, picked up my books and was at the counter, ready to check out when one of the employees says.

"I know you're a big fan of George Perez so you might want to go over there (points towards the back of the store by the longboxes and action figures) and introduce yourself."

As CJ would say "Whoa!" It was George Perez! I knew he lives in the area and is a regular at Acme Comics Superstore but I had never run into him.

Anyway, I head over to him and introduce myself. George immediately lights up when I mention being a Legion fan and being thrilled that he will get to finally do a Legion project. He tells me about the 4 large binders of reference notes he has put together of every version of every costume of every Legionnaire ever!!! (His way of phrasing it ) And how he's bound and determined to get every single one of them into Legion of Three Worlds if it kills him.

He also says he is having the most fun of his life doing this mini and that he can't wait to see the reaction to it from Legiondom. He thinks it will make everyone very happy!

George and I chatted for a few minutes more about comics in general and then I excuse myself so he could get back to what he was doing.

What an incredibly nice guy!

As you all can imagine, this made my day!

Way COOL, Vee!!!!

Vee, Great story! Did he mention what screen name he uses on Legion World?

That is an awesome story.

That is the equivalent of walking into a music store and one of the Beatles just happens to be in there, or a Video store and you just happen to run into Jack Nicholson(with the exception that they aren't as good at their craft as George Perez is at his). That must be an awesome experience.

And all of your story seems to bear out everything I have ever read about George Perez, in that he said to be one of the nicest and most gracious guys to ever work in the industry and he is always extremely nice to the fans.

George Perez is a gift to the comics industry...the man truly loves drawing comics.

And he's also IMO, probably the greatest artist. He's definitely the most devoted to his craft.


I read an interview with him recently where he was discussing the differences between Manapul and Kitson's versions of the Legion...heck, there are some diehard Legion fans that aren't that familiar with them right now...what a pro.

The only thing I am bummed out about with Perez is that he will never be the regular Legion artist and IMO, he was the guy tailor made to draw the Legion. He loves large casts, he is incredibly fast, he loves to draw extremely detailed backgrounds...and he's a huge fan of Curt Swan and you can often see influences of Swan in his artwork.

But at least we got him once...on what is arguably the most high profile Legion project ever.

I can't think of a project that is more suited to his talents...

You basically echo a comment he made during our conversation. His biggest regret is never having had the chance to be the ongoing Legion artist. He said he could never manage the schedule today and do it justice, that he's slowed down too much at his age...so he's putting everything he's got into this one project to make up for never having had the chance.

You know, he did mention that he has been here but I didn't think to ask him what name he uses.

My original list and now updated -

Cosmic Boy (/Man)/Polestar
Saturn Girl (/Woman)
Lightning Lad (/Man)
Triplicate Girl/Duo Damsel/Uno/Duplicate Damsel
Phantom Girl (/Woman)/Phase
Chameleon Boy/Chameleon
Colossal Boy (/Man)
Invisible Kid
Supergirl/Satan Girl/Unknown Boy
Brainiac 5/B-5
Superboy (/Man)/Reflecto I
Ultra Boy (/Man)/Emerald Dragon
Pete Ross
Star Boy (one-time Sir Prize) (/Man)
Shrinking Violet/Virus
Sun Boy (/Man)
Bouncing Boy
Marvel Lad/Mon-El [Valor*]
Matter-Eater Lad (/Man)
Mystery Lad/Element Lad (/Man)
Lightning Lass/Light Lass (Light Lady)/Pulse
Jimmy Olsen/Elastic Lad
Dream Girl (one-time Miss Terious)
Legion Of Substitute Heroes
...Polar Boy (/Man)
...Night Girl (/Woman)
...Stone Boy
...Fire Lad
...Chlorophyll Kid
"False Pretenses Lad"
Command Kid
Dynamo Boy
Cosmic King
Saturn Queen
Lightning Lord
Size Lad
Blackout Boy
Magnetic Kid I
Kid Psycho
Princess Projectra/Queen Projectra/Sensor Girl
Nemesis Kid
Ferro Lad
Karate Kid
Universo
Lana Lang/Insect Queen
Rond Vidar/Green Lantern
Biron the Bowman/Comet the Superhorse
Blockade Boy II/Proty II
Shadow Lass (/Woman)
Chemical King
Timber Wolf (formally Lone Wolf)/Furball
Renkil Kem
ERG-1/Wildfire/N.R.G.
Anti-Lad
Tyroc
Dawnstar/Bounty
Blok
Invisible Kid II/Evanesce
White Witch/Jewel
Magnetic Kid II
Tellus
Quislet
Nightwind
Impulse/Kent Shakespeare
Karate Kid II
Atmos
Echo
Crystal Kid
Reflecto II
Porcupine Pete
Infectious Lass
Visi-Lad
Color Kid (/King)
Storm Boy
Calamity King
Kono
Laurel Gand//Tiger Rose/Thelma*
Celeste McCauley/Celeste Rockfish/Neon/Darkstar
Devlin O'Ryan/Reflex
Ivy
Kid Quantum*
Firefist
Veilmist
Blood Claw
Flederweb
Spider Girl/Wave
Chameleon Girl*

Legionnaires/SW6 Batch
...Element Lad/Alchemist
...Phantom Girl/Apparition
...Laurel Gand/Andromeda
...Brainiac 5
...Catspaw
...Chameleon Boy
...Computo
...Cosmic Boy
...Dragonmage
...Ferro Lad/Ferro
...Light Lass/Gossamer
...Sun Boy/Inferno
...Invisible Kid
...Colossal Boy/Leviathon
...Lightning Lad/Live Wire
...Matter-Eater Lad
...Saturn Girl
...Shrinking Violet
...Triplicate Girl/Triad
...Ultra Boy
...Bouncing Boy
...Dream Girl
...Star Boy
...Karate Kid
...Princess Projectra

Alternate Future/Reality Legionnaires Not listed above (Pre-Crisis)
...Reflecto
...Quantum Queen
...?/Jan Jor
...Power Boy
...Lex Luthor V
...Mxyzptlk V
...Ferro Man
...Batman
...Krypton Girl

* Denotes Post-Crisis retcon

****ZERO HOUR restart****
Cosmic Boy
Saturn Girl
Live Wire
Triad
Apparition
Leviathan
Chameleon
Invisible Kid
XS
Kid Quantum I
Brainiac 5/Brainiac 5.1
Spark
Star Boy
Shrinking Violet/Violet/Leviathan II
Kinetix
Andromeda/Sister Andromeda
Element Lad
Ultra Boy
Superboy (Kon-El)
Gates
Valor/M'Onel
Magno
Umbra
Sensor
Inferno II
Ferro
Impulse
Monstress
Karate Kid
Kid Quantum II
Thunder
Wildfire/Wildflame
Chuck Taine
Gear
Shikari
Timber Wolf
Dreamer

Particon*
Radion*

*Listed as members in Directory

Alternate Future Not listed above (Post-Crisis)

Membrain
Phase
Graft
Nervosa
Metrox
Magno Boy
Lodestone
Triad III
Triplicate
Argent II
Silverwing
Shape
Shift II
Avatar
Mettalica
Behemoth
Ultra-Man
Superboy 843
Brainiac 417
M'Onelves
Implicate Girl
Titan Girl
Cosmicbot
The Chameleon
The Umbra
The Dreamer
Dav
Vara
Chec


****INFINITE CRISIS restart****
Cosmic Boy
Saturn Girl
Lightning Lad
Triplicate Girl
Phantom Girl
Wildfire
Chameleon
Micro Lad/Colossal Boy
Brainiac 5
Atom Girl/Shrinking Violet
Ultra Boy
Element Lad
Dream Girl
Karate Kid
Light Lass
Star Boy
Princess Projectra
Sun Boy
Shadow Lass
Timber Wolf
Invisible Kid
Dream Boy
Supergirl
Mon-El
Theena
M'Rissey
Gazelle

Plus hundreds of thousands of others (named) -
Beerm
Yendo
Greda
Za Roe
Pier
Elastic Lad
Reflecto
Dav Huntr
Chaz Willad
Lise Stone
Van Thaddeus
Lucy Lastic
Seiss


Animated Legion -
Cosmic Boy
Saturn Girl
Lightning Lad
Triplicate Girl/Duo Damsel
Phantom Girl
Colossal Boy
Brainiac 5
Shrinking Violet
Sun Boy
Dream Girl
Tyroc
Blok
Superman
Star Boy
Matter-Eater Lad
Ferro Lad
Chameleon Boy
Ultra Boy
Superman X
Nemesis Kid
Karate Kid

(I'll update as I think of them)

I hope he draws The Legion Academy,Heroes from Lallor, Dev-Em,The Tornado Twins and The Wanderers also.

Does Superboy's Legion count as yet another alternate team? Most of them are pretty close to the standard, but Shadow Lass manipulates magical 'darkforce' and Light Lass shoots lasers and Brainy and Lyle are 'brothers,' so it's got some differences...

I bet that George Perez will not draw this person:

Aria Campbell - Genesis - from The Quiet Darkness Saga with Furball (Timber Wolf/Brin Londo).

I wonder about Sun Girl...from the East Titans...Geoff had a plan of her as she was originally from 30th century and her name was Debbie or Deb Morgna....related to Sun Boy?

Mara Williams...and the others who stayed with Garridan Ranzz, Ives, younger Kent Shakespeare...

whoa too many to think about like the new Wanderers, reboot WorkForce/Heroes of Lallor, etc. argh!!!

I wonder why he invented Sun Girl when Inferno is supposedly still wandering around the 20th century.

How are these elements not considered to be silver age canon? I'm not challenging you, but am genuinely curious.

I think not only is Perez going to work every incarnation of the Legion into this story...

I think he's going to work different eras of the same Legion into it.

I have a feeling Perez is going to draw the Adventure Era Legion and the Cockrum Era etc.

I mean he is a fan of the Adventure Era Legion and you can see the influence in his art right up to this day. I find it really hard to believe we won't see him do a version of the Swan era Legion, since I'm pretty sure I've seen him mention that as the most heavy influence on his work.


Besides...if anyone remembers, the first time L3W was mentioned, it was in the LS and it was mentioned as being past tense, as in it was something that happened in the Adeventure Era. So I think this is going to span time eras as well. Or at least have some flashbacks.


And I don't doubt for a second Perez intends to draw every Legionaire...


Like someone once described his work...if someone told George Perez to draw a shattered vase, he'd draw about 10 times more pieces than breaking the vase would actually create.


I don't think he'll work every minor supporting chacater or cameo into the book...but I definitely think he wants to work every Legionaire and major character into it.

Like he said...he's never going to get the chance to be the regular Legion artist...so he's going to make up for it with this mini. This is going to be awesome.

Krypton Girl?