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A satisfying end to a series that was pretty much fluff overall. The whole story probably would've worked better told in two oversize issues, ala Superboy's Legion, but it was a lot of fun overall.
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Feh! The only good thing about this series was the covers. We got 3 issues worth of story spread over 6, and the Moy brothers seemed to have phoned in the art. Once again, Feh!
From: Gorilla Nebula Pub | Registered: Jul 2003
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I agree it was 3 issues of material spread over 6 issues, but that's endemic of the entire comics industry now, par for the new course.
And anyway, as far as I'm concerned, those were 3 REALLY GOOD issues of material(!). I do think the ending was a bit abrupt, but a minor complaint for me.
I will also say it was somewhat more Trek-centric than Legion, but then, IDW has a regular Trek series, not a Legion one.
Like a good Trek episode, I thought it was very though-provoking at then end: we tend to impose a time-limit on a person "maturing" based on our lifespans, so that you are expected to "mature" by adult-hood. Yet there is no reason why there should be a time-limit on such a thing. What we saw here was that if Flint had been given unlimited power before he had a chance to experience some key humbling and eye-opening events in his life (so that he "matured"), he'd have become almost the polar opposite persona.
Or the more interesting way to flip it: the incredibly evil despot Vandar the Stone turns out quite differently, and even benignly, when given just a bit more of a chance to mature and self-reflect before coming into power.
Maybe not the deepest concept(s) ever, but worthy of the two series represented, IMHO. Plus incredibly entertaining and well-executed character interactions... I just wish there was more!
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From: Old Lyme, CT | Registered: Jul 2004
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A little too much talky-talk, for my taste. (A common situation whenever Q is involved, I think, as he never shuts up.)
The fight with the Trek-i-fied Fatal Five seemed a bit anticlimactic. They got their butts handed to them a bit too fast, and, if not for the characters *talking* about how deadly the Atomic Axe / Emerald Eye / etc. were, we'd have no idea that these chumps were even a threat.
Q was a mis-step, I think. He's not relevant to classic Trek team. Having him present is like having Kirk fighting a Borg or Captain Janeway interacting with Gul Dukat. The Squire of Gothos or a captured trio of Organian explorers or something would have fit better with the classic crew, IMO.
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Somewhere, in an official Star Trek book, it was established that the Squire of Gothos, and his parents, were Q. This was discussed before, on another thread.
So, I had no problem with his appearance, at all. I just wish they'd connected the Time Trapper with him.
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quote:Originally posted by Candlelight: Somewhere, in an official Star Trek book, it was established that the Squire of Gothos, and his parents, were Q. This was discussed before, on another thread.
So, I had no problem with his appearance, at all. I just wish they'd connected the Time Trapper with him.
Actually, Peter David (in his ST Novel Q-Squared)revealed Q as having been intimate with Trelane's mother--suggesting possible paternity...
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I enjoyed this six-issue run more than I have the recent LSH and Legion Lost issues. The same story definitely could have been told in fewer issues, but I liked the art and writing enough that I didn't mind that it dragged out a bit -- I was actually a little sad to see it end.
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From: The open range | Registered: Sep 2003
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Overall, I'd say it wasn't worth the $24 cover price with very little story spread over those issues. I could easily see the story being told on TOS in one episode. And in a way it was, as the story was basically another take on "Mirror, Mirror" except the bad guys weren't alternate versions of themselves.
This leads me to my next point, as was stated above, that the story felt a lot more ST-centric, giving the LSHverse and characters more of a short shrift. I guess in a way that it's hard for this NOT to happen as the ST characters were portrayed by real people and imbued with personalities by them over nearly seventy episodes, six films and numerous guest appearances in successive movies and TV series. In short they're iconic.
The LSH is NOT iconic to most people, other than, perhaps, LSH fans like us. Even then, their appearance varies from artist to artist and their portrayals are inconsistent from writer to writer (and reboot to reboot).
With that in mind, Roberson did a creditable job with what he was given. You could see that he loved both properties. Using Flint/Vandal Savage as the threat and basically presenting both characters as the same person was a good idea. It was little disappointing that Vandal Savage was used instead of a more traditional Legion villain. Well, at least Vandal HAD appeared as Legion antagonist before, albeit in a different continuity. The amalgams of various characters and races were pretty entertaining as well.
The Moy brothers were also delightful, in my opinion, with how they depicted the story. They did well with both casts. Nice with the LSH, especially, since this wasn't the version they'd worked on.
In the end it was enjoyable. I'm a fan of both properties, though more of the Legion than of ST. I grew up on the ST movies mostly and then the various series that followed in the late '80s and beyond, especially TNG and DS9. (Though I've seen many TOS eps, I actually didn't even know who the hell Flint was!) I wish I'd just waited for the collected edition and saved some dough. I bought all the covers by classic LSH artists and forsook the gorgeous Jimenez covers. Ultimately, I probable would have gotten everything I wanted in the TBP without paying as much and probably wouldn't have noticed the sparcity of story as much.
I'm still kinda amazed this project ever happened, really! As "logical" as the two crossing over was, I'm amazed that DC and IDW had the confidence to take a gamble on it with the LSH being the obvious, unequal underdog between the two projects. I guess I'm kinda glad it happened in the end!
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From: The Underbelly of Society | Registered: Jul 2003
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This wasn't the be-all, end-all story of the decade, but overall I'm glad it came out. Certainly, it was mostly a fluff piece, but I thought it was a fun one at that. Like Lardy says, I'm glad it exists.
I actually have very limited knowledge of Star Trek, just knowing the basics of the original 60's cast. So to me, the addition of Q was a cool thing, and made me want to know more about him.
I think this crossover was a good thing for the Legion. Roberson was forced to approach them as if they were truly brand new to the audience of this series--something most writers have been unable to do for awhile. He smartly picked 6 of the Legionnaires most representative of franchise and then used them well.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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Agreed it was WAY decompressed and very fluffy. But who doesn't like to cuddle with something fluffy now and then? I enjoyed all the Trek in-jokes (Shredded shirts! Kirk hits on Tasmia! etc) In many ways it was a dream come true. I *would buy* a DC/IDEW Trek/LSH (as in, DC is the primary releaser) mini too. I would hope it would be a bit denser.
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