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Fat Cramer
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Portfolio Boy and a few others have mentioned that the villains lately have just wanted to conquer the galaxy and enslave everyone in a hive-mind. Too true, too true.

The Fatal Five made a return, looking for something, unknown to us ... so count on a reappearance from them. We hope they are not looking for a universal mind-control jewel.

If the LSV - or some other baddie - comes back, what could their crime(s) be? Knock over a space-bank? Revenge for past perceived injustices? Kidnapping/hostage-taking?

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I always figured the LSV's reason for existing was to take out the LSH. Each had their own reasons, either because the Legion defeated them when they worked alone or in a smaller group, or for something more personal like Lightning Lord. Right now, it seems like the LSV would want to control the space doors that the Kwai control, so they'd want to overrun Legion World. By controlling LW, they control trading amongst planets, meaning wealth and power. The problem with the LSV, though, is that there is always too much greed and in-fighting, and they weaken themselves, creating a way for the real Legion to take them out.

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get on my nerves, i'm sure.

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I like the "seige on Legion World" kinda story.
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What would they be called? The Villains?
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We should perhaps have a moment of silence for the late Tarik the Mute.
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Certainly, the name should be updated; Legion of Super-Villains is so silver age. Fatal Five has a timelessness to it, but I can't think of a new name. Tarik's Terrors? The Minions of Mekt?(too subservient to the zapper) I guess it could depend on who was on the team and what they were up to.

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quote:
Originally posted by Fat Cramer:
Certainly, the name should be updated; Legion of Super-Villains is so silver age. Fatal Five has a timelessness to it, but I can't think of a new name. Tarik's Terrors? The Minions of Mekt?

How about "The Devil's Dozel?"

[ August 04, 2003, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: Portfolio Boy ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Fat Cramer:

If the LSV - or some other baddie - comes back, what could their crime(s) be? Knock over a space-bank? Revenge for past perceived injustices? Kidnapping/hostage-taking?

I think that the LSV would be motivated merely by revenge against the Legion. Their goal, pure and simple, is to counter and destroy the Legion in any way possible.

Back when Nira Minsork made her 1st (and to date only appearance) I began screaming for a new LSV with her as the postboot Saturn Queen. I wanted to see he joined with Lightning Lord and Cosmic Boy's former coach as a reboot Cosmic King. Mr. Cuspin (I think I recall that was his name) did eventually return, but not as the King, so there is still room for that.

I'd join these three with the Composite Man from Durla that the Legion battled early in the reboot as Chameleon Chief. Toss in a couple of rejects, or others who have a reason to feel slighted by the Legion (Lori as Princess, or Lady, Glorith?) and there you go.

Have them brought together by Prince Evillo (notice a trend of regal, or titled names?) and we can call them the new DEVIL'S DOZEN instead of the LSV.

And, even if we toss the silver age sounding LSV, we can still retain a measure of the old silver age feel by having the Devil's Dozen be something other than 12 members. [Laugh Out Loud]

[ August 04, 2003, 09:15 AM: Message edited by: Portfolio Boy ]

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If the LSV returns it should be as the LSV. The name is a response to the name of the heroes they are trying to take out. If "Legion of Super-Heroes" is still a worthwhile name, then "Legion of Super-Villains" should be as well.

There should be a mastermind behind the group, someone with a large grudge against the Legion. Dr. Regulus would be an excellent choice, imo. Brainiac Four might be another possibility.

They should assemble a collection of cutthroats and assorted persons with a grudge against the Legion in an attempt to destroy the team. No bigger goal, just revenge and destruction of the Legion. The actual plan should be somewhat irrational, almost crazy, but because of that fact, and because of the maniacal devotion of the members, should nearly suceed.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
If the LSV returns it should be as the LSV. The name is a response to the name of the heroes they are trying to take out. If "Legion of Super-Heroes" is still a worthwhile name, then "Legion of Super-Villains" should be as well.

But would they percieve themselves as villains? Certainly, in their own minds, they are perfectly justified, perhaps even heroic.

Now, perhaps the 30th century media might refer to them as the LSV, even making the name stick n the public conciousness, but I contend they would call themselves something else.

Actually, this could be played for a bit of humer, as the group can't stand that the media refering to them as the LSV and not using their proper name.

"NO! We're GUMBY damnit!"

Might even be an excuse to bring back a certain reporter. Do we even know if Condo has any powers postboot?

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I'd also add to the lineup Radion, who's maybe bitter about having half his face blown off after helping the Legion against Mordru, and Repulse and that girl with the whips from "Pres McCauley's" superteam.
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Early LSV never worked for me, as a bunch that got together because of the hate of individual LSHers. It seemed their sole purpose of forming a team was because the "good guys" had one.

The organized crime stories, leading to Val's death, gave the LSV a common goal. Some of the gangland type stories from Legion World's were typical of what I think I would enjoy. They were perfect for an Espionage Squad story, showing the Legion in more of a protect and serve role than last line of defense.

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quote:
Originally posted by Fat Cramer:
Certainly, the name should be updated; Legion of Super-Villains is so silver age.

How about "Legion of Doom"?? [Smile]
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I think the LSV should be made up of demented/jealous siblings of the LSH.

Saturn Queen: Jancel Ardeen. Already shown to hate Imra and resent her Legion membership.

Lightning Lord: Obviously Mekt, he's already unstable.

Cosmic King: Pol Krinn. I dont think we've seen much of him postboot, so maybe hes not as noble as he was before. I bet he's jealous of Rokk's Magno-ball career. Maybe he's become addicted to some braalian power-inducing drug. Lots of opportunnities for him to turn bad.

Ohter potential members:

- dosen't Reep have a brother named Ligt?
given Durla's barbaric/isolationist culture
it's possible Reep's family hates him for
leaving Durla and betraying his heritage.

- IIRC, kinetix had a brother named Thanot
(or Thanos?) who was jealous of Zoe's
relationship with their mother. Also I believe
he was seeking a 'relic of power' too.

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I think it would be a bit strained to have an LSV consisting entirely of demented/evil siblings, but it's an interesting idea, nonetheless.

Other possibilities:

Jacques Foccart as Lyle's "brother", perhaps driven crazy by his own invsibile nature.

Tinya's third body.

A member of Sensor's family who wants to eliminate her as she's now an aberration to the bloodline.


And, of course, who would assemble an organization of twisted family members of the Legion? None other than Brainiac Four!

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