Eryk Davis Ester
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quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: If the LSV returns it should be as the LSV. The name is a response to the name of the heroes they are trying to take out. If "Legion of Super-Heroes" is still a worthwhile name, then "Legion of Super-Villains" should be as well.
But would they percieve themselves as villains? Certainly, in their own minds, they are perfectly justified, perhaps even heroic.
They could use the name to be ironic (which itself would be ironic, since it would in fact be accurate). Or maybe they're so demented (at least the leaders) that they recognize themselves as villains and as pursuing the cause of villainy.
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I like the idea that the media label them Legion of Super-Villains, especially if they're going for destruction of the Super-Heroes. (But are we just calling them The Legion these days?)
Also, if you bring in the media, you could have ***CONDO*** doing the coverage. And if the Espionage Squad is tracking the Villains, well...need I say more?
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I like the idea that the media label them Legion of Super-Villains, especially if they're going for destruction of the Super-Heroes. (But are we just calling them The Legion these days?)
Also, if you bring in the media, you could have ***CONDO*** doing the coverage. And if the Espionage Squad is tracking the Villains, well...need I say more?
(This should get Lash's gaydar popping.)
From: Café Cramer | Registered: Jul 2003
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they should be the Legion of Super-Terrorists or Legion of Terror. and they should be out to subvert and overthrow the United Planets as well as those goody-2shoes symbols of the UP, the Legion.
-------------------- Gorilla Nebula
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what I would like to see things happen in the Legion first before any siblings join - I would like to see any pre-ZH villains to form first:
Zymyr, Terraz, Tyr, Micro, Sun Emperor, Flare, Echo (to be reformed), Brain Globes of Rambat, Esper Lass, Phantom Lad, Density, Ze Tongue, Domain....secretly founded by Brainiac 4....once they are out in mass media then Jancel or Mekt can join them later...Ol-Vir (White Triangle), hmmm I think that they have the potential.
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Add more female members - Quicksand, Dragonfly...you name it.
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Eryk Davis Ester
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quote:Originally posted by Gorilla Nebula: they should be the Legion of Super-Terrorists or Legion of Terror. and they should be out to subvert and overthrow the United Planets as well as those goody-2shoes symbols of the UP, the Legion.
Yeah, but calling themselves "terrorists" is just as unrealistic as calling themselves "villains". Maybe something like the People's Revolutionary Legion would work for what you're suggesting. Of course, then Gates might join up with them too.
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Was Tarik the Mute's last name ever revealed? Maybe it's Roman? Then they could be The Roman Legion.
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quote:Originally posted by Gorilla Nebula: they should be the Legion of Super-Terrorists or Legion of Terror. and they should be out to subvert and overthrow the United Planets as well as those goody-2shoes symbols of the UP, the Legion.
Yeah, but calling themselves "terrorists" is just as unrealistic as calling themselves "villains".
Bin Laden and other sickos seem proud of being terrorists, so I can imagine others willingly adopting that word, or even "villains."
Legion of Terror and Legion of Doom are both excellent names (the latter having a historical LSH connection, as well), but for the sake of tradition, I'd rather the LSV be the LSV.
-------------------- The Semi-Great Gildersleeve - writing, super-heroes, and this 'n' that
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The only time the LSV concept really worked for me was in their origin story in ADVENTURE # 372. They were presented as a School for Super-Villains, consisting of Legion rejects and others.
I've often wondered why kids would join an organization like the LSV and more, why would they stay? The Fatal Five, at least, exists purely for greed and power. But the LSV was different. It consisted of doppelgangers of LSH members. Why would someone call themselves Chameleon Chief or Sun Emperor or even Lightning Lord, when the world would automatically view them as lesser or evil versions of the LSH?
The answer, I think, is that that LSV represented a gang in the same sense that the LSH originally represented a club. The LSH was for kids who "fit in" and were accepted by their peers, families and society at large. The members of the LSV, on the other hand, were failures. Some had quite literally failed -- Spider Girl and Radiation Roy had tried out for the LSH and been rejected. Others had simply failed to fit into their society's norm. Mekt, for example, had no twin, which made him a freak on his native Winath. (Whether or not this was the cause of his insanity is another concern entirely.)
If the LSV is viewed in that context -- as disaffected kids who are envious of the Legion's power and prestige -- they make sense to me in a sad sort of way. They would be the kids who fall through the cracks. The kids who shoot up high schools. The kids who run away to join cults (represented, chillingly, by Tarik the Mute). In their warped logic, the LSV needs to show the world just how pathetic and phony the Legion is. They do this by becoming the opposite of the Legion.
Hey, I never said it made sense, but then the minds of serial killers and depraved lunatics never do. But at least such an irrational jealousy of the Legion would give the LSV a plausible reason for being, whoever ends up joining it.
[ August 04, 2003, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: He Who Wanders ]
-------------------- The Semi-Great Gildersleeve - writing, super-heroes, and this 'n' that
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Micro seems like the type that would join up. I would think he'd want revenge for being robbed of the glory he thought was rightfuly his.
It would be a good excuse for bringing back Caress, too (since superboymddjr wants more females. ) She and the other prisoners on Hellworld* couldn't have been pleased about having their escape plans foiled.
*That would make a good counterpart to Legion World...
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how about the "Anti-Legion"? and their logo would be the legion "L" with a red slash thru it. members: -Lightning Lord; Nemesis; Charma; Spider Girl; Micro; Kono; Catspaw; Radion; Quicksand; Holdur; Kid Psycho; Molecule Master...
-------------------- Gorilla Nebula
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It would be interesting to get some villains we haven't seen in awhile, specifically Tangleweb and Mantis Morlo, to join a new LSV just to see how they'd work (if at all) with the other villains and how they'd handle a Legion that has grown considerably in size and support since they fought the team. Not to mention, just like the Legion, it would be good to get some non-humanoids in the group.
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