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Gail will give Geoff a break and write a two parter that will feature the new Hawk and Dove. Thats the good news.

Here is the bad.

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I am not kidding. Check out this website. http://www.robliefeld.net/main.htm [Frown]

When did Robin started wearing booties? [Mad]

[ April 27, 2005, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: RTVU2 ]

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Oh, Good GOD. [Frown]

No, please, NO.

Is Gail working with guys like Rob and Byrne intentionally?!

And Robin got booties, but WW and Raven got boobies... [Mad] The solo picture of Cassie is even worse. It looks like he actually concentrated on her bust, and drew the rest of the pic around it. [Roll Eyes]

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I actually like his Robin redesign, which eliminates that damn underwear.

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well i suppose ROB did draw the original mini-series back in the late 80's !!

did he have input in the story, also ??

i can't say that his art has ever offened me, that much, but i didn't really follow his MARVEL stuff anyway !!

what issue numbers are they ??

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I have to agree with Reboot - That Robin looks pretty good, though he makes me think more of Dick Grayson than Tim Drake for some reason.

It's the interior pages I'm concerned about. If somebody actually edits the work - it might turn out OK.

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quote:
Originally posted by Outdoor Miner:
I have to agree with Reboot - That Robin looks pretty good, though he makes me think more of Dick Grayson than Tim Drake for some reason.

Probably the jacket - DG had a red jacket over the short shorts, Tim's tended to have a leotard over trousers. That's the only Greysonish bit about it though - it's mostly Tim's standard suit, with a new R (neither DG not Tim), the yellow trim along the front, and the brown utility belt (based on the BY1/post-NML Batman belt) being the other changes.

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he heh... I'm actually kind-of looking forward to this in a twisted way... that picture of Raven above makes me giggle...

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quote:
Originally posted by Pov:

And Robin got booties, but WW and Raven got boobies... [Mad] The solo picture of Cassie is even worse. It looks like he actually concentrated on her bust, and drew the rest of the pic around it. [Roll Eyes]

Next issue... WG and Raven get booties, too! Not *that* kind of booties, ya dirty minded so and sos... Which means that Robin gets boobies! Sure to be a top seller.
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Well at least Robin doesn't look like a brick shipyard. But [Eek!] ! Raven looks like she's shoplifting some melons.
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quote:
Originally posted by Reboot:
quote:
Originally posted by Outdoor Miner:
I have to agree with Reboot - That Robin looks pretty good, though he makes me think more of Dick Grayson than Tim Drake for some reason.

Probably the jacket - DG had a red jacket over the short shorts,
That, and I think just the way liefeld draws Tim makes him look a few years older than he is.

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Raven's 60 year old droopy boobs not being held in by a bra are terrifying. The solo pic of WG is just appaling and generally it looks like Liefield has excelled himself in how little he understands basic human anatomy. I mean, what the hell is going on with Hawk? Apparently part of her powers are to make her right arm about six feet long and her left arm only five inches. Her boobs are... very odd, and she has a teeny tiny head. Ok, foreshortening and all the sort of stuff but the way he's drawn her makes it look like someone has told him about foreshortening but he's never actually seen it in real life.

Also, in the solo pic Robin doesn't actually appear to have a pelvis. He certainly doesn't have a waist, and there isn't enough room or form there for him to have a pelvic bone. His ribcage appears very odd too, and while he seems to be muscular his pectorals don't actually stand out from the rest of his torso. Oh, and he seems to have completely dislocated his right shoulder. Either that or he has two elbows.

You know, I don't mind stylised anatomy. My own drawing style isn't photrealistic in the slightest, but if someone is going to try and draw in such a way that is clearly meant to look real then they should at least have some vague idea of anatomy. He clearly hasn't looked at real humans for reference, and he doesn't even seem to have worked out how his figures can possibly stand like they do or where their bones are or anything. Urgh. I don't often hate artists work for their lack of accuracy, but Liefield is the exception to the rule.

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Ugh.

UGH.

And I was really enjoying Titans too. Well, at least the writing will be good.

Funny thing though: did anyone look at the pencil drawings of Robin on Liefield's site? Those are actually quite good. Some of the posing is a bit odd, but the anatomy isn't so wildly improbable as is inks usually are.

As for the Robin solo pic posted above, he looks like Dick because Dick was always protrayed as a pretty muscular guy. Tim has generally been portrayed with a much slighter build, which gives him a younger look. The illo that really gets my goat is the pic of Kid Flash. He's huge! That's not Bart, that's Wally.

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quote:
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The illo that really gets my goat is the pic of Kid Flash. He's huge! That's not Bart, that's Wally.

Yeah, well Kid Flash isn't Bart, it's Wally, so it fits...

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Ahhh, the surefire way to get me to drop a book.

Don't worry, I'll return when Liefeld goes.

Hate to miss Gail's issues, though. I've refused to support the companies hiring Liefeld since...hmm, I think the last one I got of his was Deathmate: Red.

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His Robin looks like he also got bitten by a radioactive spider. Certainly in the way he 'poses' in literally all pictures...
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