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They can't really travel at light speed, can they? Not only would time stop for them, but it would take forever to get anywhere but short distances. Since they're both mostly space travelers, it just wouldn't work.
I've always felt that Dawny, and the other space fast Legionnaires, somehow created a dimensional warp or black hole wrinkle or something, around themselves. Which is pretty unique, of course, and if they can do it, so could CQ.
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quote:Originally posted by Candlelight: They can't really travel at light speed, can they?
They kinda have to be able to, since Mon, Jo, Dawny and Drake have been shown traveling faster than the cruisers can keep up (and the cruisers can break lightspeed, presumably by doing some hyperspace thing to get around pesky science).
Traveling at lightspeed (or faster), without some sort of time dilation or mass approaching infinity or whatever, is one of those things that a sci-fi setting with people traveling in their lifetimes to hundreds of different worlds kinda requires.
Narratively, it's a necessity for the Legion (and non-Legion residents of the UP) to be able to get around at trans-light speeds, so if they want to wave their hands around and say 'wormholes' or 'hyperdrive' or 'space-time warping bubble of altered reality' or whatever, I'm comfortable with that.
They seem to have faster-than-light communications *built into their rings* as well, which, well, is that 30th century 'might as well be magic' sort of technology.
Sun Boy being able to shoot fire in outer space still pisses me off 'though, since that's just crazy impossible! Heat doesn't propogate across a vacuum! Burnination doesn't happen without stuffs to burninate! Argh! <shakes fist in impotent nerdrage>
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Sun Boy's heat must be drawn from another dimension, from a star or something. The sun's heat does travel in a form of energy wave, doesn't it? Our sun certainly heats our planet, doesn't it?
And, traveling at lightspeed doesn't get you anywhere fast in space type distances. The closest star to Earth is 5 light years away. And nothing travels faster than light, does it? I know in the old days of comics, Supes and the Flash could and Dawnstar especially, although she couldn't effect time the way the other two could. But, science has caught up with comics now and they need to come up with a scientific way to deal with their flight, even if it's just pseudo science. imo
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quote:Originally posted by Candlelight: Sun Boy's heat must be drawn from another dimension, from a star or something. The sun's heat does travel in a form of energy wave, doesn't it? Our sun certainly heats our planet, doesn't it?
The heat doesn't travel through space to warm the earth. If it did, it would be hotter way up in the mountains, because they are closer to the sun. (Something I wondered about when I was a kid!)
*Light* travels from the sun to the earth, and wherever it hits, creates heat. The darker the surface (albedo) the more heat, so it's cooler in the arctic, where less light is hitting, thanks to the white snow bouncing so much of the visible light back, and lowering the amount of heat generated by sunlight (the same process explains why you get hotter in the summer if you wear a black shirt).
Sun Boy can generate light, and, using vast amounts of light, heat up things in space, but he couldn't generate flame, because flame is the chemical process of stuff burning, and there's nothing to burn in space, and he couldn't shoot 'heat' in space, because heat is just agitated molecules, and, again, vacuum doesn't have molecules to agitate.
I'm not sure, but I don't think lightning can exist in space, either. Certainly not sound. And yet Lightning Lad and Tyroc have both been seen using their powers in vacuum.
Heck, Saturn Queen even managed to set up a little campfire in a vacuum!
quote: And, traveling at lightspeed doesn't get you anywhere fast in space type distances. The closest star to Earth is 5 light years away. And nothing travels faster than light, does it? I know in the old days of comics, Supes and the Flash could and Dawnstar especially, although she couldn't effect time the way the other two could.
Hence my assertion that they have to be able to travel faster than light.
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Well, last time I looked, our science says that nothing can travel faster than light, so Dawnstar and etc., can't do it. If DC wants to do it, they have to make something up to explain it, imo. Time is affected by speed until it reaches 0. If Dawny and the others were even traveling at lightspeed, everything would be frozen for them, timewise, thoughtwise, imo. Ah, physics.
And the sun hurls great arcs of flaming plasma from it's surface. It may be something connected to gravity but it's outside or above any atmosphere that the sun has. I don't think that Dirk generates the flame he uses, he has to be drawing it from somewhere, so perhaps he draws the oxygen with it.
Anyway, go Glorith!
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But Dawnstar DOES fly faster than light, it's one of her main powers that has been documented for decades.
Maybe she creates a pocket of different reality around her, maybe when she's traveling at translight speeds she enters a different plane and creates a duplicate of herself to interact with the normal world, maybe it's the speed force...it's comics, there's any number of ways you can handwave it. I don't get why in a universe where you have people who can turn into a giant beach ball or can carry stars around without any adverse environmental reactions, flying fast is where you draw the line?
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I chose Glorith because I like to see a magic-wielder in the Legion. She's a bit too precious for me, though; everybody's always hugging her. Once she loses her timidity, she should be okay - she demonstrated some real hardass attitude dealing with that chick who stole Chemical Kid's genetic power.
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I'm finding it fascinating who has the least amount of votes right now. I can only assume that most people are simply "okay" with that Legionnaire but have their own personal favorite of the new recruits instead? There doesn't seem to be as many naysayers for that character as there are others.
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