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A big deal is made about the fact that Ultra Boy's vision powers are "greater" than Superboy's, but there's no explicit mention of the extra power being required to earn membership on the team.
There's lots of things that could be interpreted as implying a "no duplication" rule (I believe in Adv. #247, they mention that all Legionnaires have a power distinct from Superboy's), but it's never explicitly mentioned as requirement for membership in the Silver Age.
I remember being shocked when this was first pointed out to me, but apparently it's true.
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All great thoughts, worldies. Especially Eryk's point on 'no explicit power' clause prior the Bronze Age and Wildfire. Failed the remember that.
But I would agree to disagree with Sketch in reference to the capabilities of KK and TW. The shtick with Val was not his expertise in all forms of martials arts in the 31st century, it was the power to perceive the weakness of any given target, something akin to Karnak of the Inhumans. So in terms of originality, KK wins over TW.
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I agree, a lot of good points. In his origin, he was said to have grown up on Zoon, a jungle planet (this of course after he found out he was NOT an android). I would say he was in possession of some jungle survival or hunting skills, and the ray his father used enhanced them, as well as his normal 5 senses.
Although not the best reference point, one way the 3boot described him was "prodigious physicality." One dictionary defines prodigious as "extraordinary in size, amount, extent, degree, force, etc." "Physicality is defined as "Involving or characterized by vigorous bodily activity." Many of the Legionnaires-Superboy, Mon-el, Sun Boy, Shadow Lass, etc., had weaknesses which could all but disable them. T-Wolf was beyond Olympic-level athlete, and his power could not be sapped by a rock, or other force.
I would say his greatest asset would be his raw power, and the ability to channel it into an "extraordinary amount of physical force."
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When I read 'prodigious physicality' the first thing I though was that he was a prodigy, but instead of being a naturally gifted artist or musician or a mathematical prodigy, he was innately gifted at physical matters, a instinctual 'genius' at anything physical.
He'd be the polar opposite of Brainiac, a 'genius' whose gifts lie entirely in the physical realm.
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Timber Wolf did not originally have heightened senses (or claws), nor did Karate Kid originally have the ability to sense weaknesses. These attributes were borrowed from Marvel characters and tacked onto Brin and Val much much later, long after their powers had already been defined in the silver age. There was also nothing animalistic about Brin in the silver age. He chose the name Lone Wolf because he was a loner, not because he had wolf-like abilities.
Although their powers are different by definition--super strength and acrobatic agility vs. mastery of all forms of hand to hand combat--they basically served the same purpose: jumping around all over the place and punching out the bad guys. They were also both portrayed as hot heads and mavericks who challenged authority and went their own way when they disagreed with the general consensus.
It's for these reasons that I always found them to be cut from the same cloth, even though their powers are not exactly the same.
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Personally, I hate the idea that characters can't progress or be seen any differently than they were at the time of their creation. Even I've progressed to be 'more' than I was 50 years ago. They're not in amber, after all.
Brin might have taken the name Lone Wolf because he was a loner, but he kept the 'Wolf' part when he became Timber Wolf for a reason. He (the writers) wanted to identify him as a character and define his powers with that name.
To say he has no real connection to wolves robs him of who he is and his possiblities as a hero.
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I kind of liked the cartoon origin, where his father used animal DNA to turn his son into the 'ultimate predator.'
On the other hand, sometimes I think of Brin as being everything Wolverine could have been, considering that he was the template that Cockrum later used in his portrayal of the Canucklehead.
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quote:Originally posted by Set: I kind of liked the cartoon origin, where his father used animal DNA to turn his son into the 'ultimate predator.'
Yes, wolf DNA would make perfect sense.
If I were creating Brin today, I might go with some ancient, glacial tissue from a frozen Dire Wolf. They were the ubber wolves ~ everything amped up to the max.
At one point, DC was setting the stage for Brin to be recreated as one of the New God creatures. They have 'hounds' or something. I'm rather glad they didn't finish that storyline. I guess.
But I DID like when they made KK Asian. Similarly, I enjoyed Brins look advancing to a more animalistic phase.
I grew up in the Silver Age, but even then it was to 'white boy power' based for my comfort. I'm an IDIC type.
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I really like Brin's personality, too. He's changed a LOT.
At first he was kinda quiet and sad. He spent most of his time with Ayla. He had his lotus fruit addiction, which I know messed with his Zuunium treatments.
He got all feral somehow, but it seemed to wake him up. He was more active, more intense, more passionate.
He got rather serious again, and complained of pain and of wanting to be alone again.
Then he got his surgery to restore his human features. He was happy, enjoying his Legion buddies and splitting from Ayla.
He got a bit goofy then, hanging with Blok a lot, being a little like the clueless type.
He honored his friend Val's request on Lythl. Felt good about that. Started dating again.
Went into a good zone with the Legion.
Then we move into 5YL and he changed even more. At that point, he wasn't Brin anymore. Not really.
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I actually don't like the doofus portrayal of TW at all. I actually think he should be one of the smarter Legionnaires.
What defines the character for me is the conflict between loner/pack instincts. On the one hand, he embraces the Legion as his family; on the other hand there is a constant feeling of alienation, like he doesn't quite fit in.
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quote:Originally posted by He Who Wanders:
Somebody's been drinking too much coffee, it seems.
Yeah, tell the board something it doesn't know, Sunny.
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quote:Originally posted by Quislet, Esq.: Of course, his power did become shape-shifting. But even with shape-shifting, I don't see Chameleon Boy being able to duplicate Timber Wolf's abilities aka acrobatic/agility power.
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