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Is there an existing character that you'd consider Lardy's nemesis? If not what should this character be like?
Personally, I'd rather the enemy NOT meet either of two criteria:
1) Evil doppleganger. Yeah, there have been many alternate Lardies running around over the years, but those were always there to underline Lardy's own potential to turn evil. Few of them could ever match up to Lardy's own evil potential, so I'd discount them. Yes, Lardy may very well be his own worst enemy, but what about someone else?
2) Opposite character. Occasionally, we've had fun with Lardy being opposed by especially fit or slender characters, like a Richard Simmons thing. (I think Phineas conjured a fit Lardy doppleganger once, combining both of these.) It's good for a laugh but doesn't really resonate much beyond that.
So whaddaya think? What new or existing LMB character should be Lardy's nemesis? What attributes would be perfect without doing either of the above?
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I don't know that he has or really needs one.
The LMB, like the Legion that inspired it, is a team. A few members of the LSH have personal nemeses (Regulus for Sun Boy or Roxxas for Element Lad, for example), but most of their enemies are enemies of the entire team.
A few LMBers have a personal archenemy, but not everyone. Rocky has Evil Emperor Pyngwyn, but he is an evil doppelganger and for Rocky--who is (despite breaking Lardy's heart and briefly coming under the sway of Evil Lash) not generally prone to evil--that is a great contrast. As you point out, Lardy's own potential makes such a doppelganger pointless.
In the long run, I think you're right that Lardy is indeed his own worst enemy.
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Let's keep playing with the evil potential. Dark Reign II is a joke, but we can dance along that gray line. I would love to pull out some Marvel villains (or at least villainous costume designs) and just unleash them onto the LMB world. I really want to do a Marvel costume party.
Think about Shakespeare and Faust and you can see the shades of gray in literature.
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Beyond that, Mordra. And her being dead by no means lessens it! Her history with Lardy still hangs over him in all his actions and therefore keeps her as his true nemesis!
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If you need an archenemy, I'll be it for you.
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Is Lardy evil or good, or is he torn between the forces of both?
Considering how Rocky jilted you over your loss of power, I thought he was your arch nemesis--spurned lover and all that.
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Excuse me but can you please direct me to the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles?
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Reverse-Chief Lardy? He wears that yellow costume and streaks around this site posting lies about the real Chief Lardy.
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how about... Calamity Monkey?
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Excuse me but can you please direct me to the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles?
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Whoever he turns out to be I bet he'll have on a black hat!
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or you can do the confusion 'til your head falls off
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I thought that Zardi was Lardy's arch-nemesis-in-waiting.
Maybe he's too busy running his chain restaurant, though...
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quote:Originally posted by cleome: I thought that Zardi was Lardy's arch-nemesis-in-waiting.
Maybe he's too busy running his chain restaurant, though...
Actually, I've been thinking a lot about Zardi in this discussion. I don't know if Abin created him with Lardy in mind as his major opponent (in fact I'm sure he didn't), but Zardi seems kind of keyed in on Lardy with most of what he does. If nothing else, Zardi seems like a perfect foil for Lardy in many ways.
quote:Originally posted by future king: Whoever he turns out to be I bet he'll have on a black hat!
Pretty sure Zardi wears one...
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quote:Originally posted by Kent Shakespeare: how about... Calamity Monkey?
I think he's Edie's archenemy...or Pov's.
quote:Originally posted by future king: Reverse-Chief Lardy? He wears that yellow costume and streaks around this site posting lies about the real Chief Lardy.
Kind of on the "Opposite Character" spectrum, isn't it? I think he'd be pretty popular with the populous, though--giving gift cards and credit vouchers instead of tickets!
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quote:Originally posted by He Who LSHes: Is Lardy evil or good, or is he torn between the forces of both?
Considering how Rocky jilted you over your loss of power, I thought he was your arch nemesis--spurned lover and all that.
Lardy's nature is essentially good, I think. But there's something in his make-up that just can't handle power. In his case power definitely corrupts. He's lost his super-powers but has gained the power of the Chief of Security. The effect appears to be very similar at this point.
Is Rocky his nemesis? Nah. But there's a part of Lardy that feels Rocky dumped him for reasons other than the stated one that by Pyngwyny law Rocky can not have a consort without super-powers. And that thought is eating away at Lardy in a bad way.
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quote:Originally posted by Quislet, Esq: If you need an archenemy, I'll be it for you.
Quis as Lardy's archenemy? Not seeing it, but I think Quis would be one to step up to Lardy as Lardy takes his role as Chief more and more over the edge.
quote:Originally posted by Rockhopper Lad: In the long run, I think you're right that Lardy is indeed his own worst enemy.
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: Himself--that's his great story!
Beyond that, Mordra. And her being dead by no means lessens it! Her history with Lardy still hangs over him in all his actions and therefore keeps her as his true nemesis!
Again, I've stated that Lardy is his own worst enemy, and every character beat I contribute seems to underline that more and more. However, I don't think Lardy will ever truly realize until it's perhaps much too late. I think at some point he will fixate on someone as his "nemesis" in such a way as to further himself from reality until it's too late. (Sounds more like Zardi the more I think about it...)
And, yes, Mordra was his nemesis while she was alive. She pushed him closer to the edge (and over it for a time) than he's ever been. And that's exactly the way she wanted it.
quote:Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid: Bizarro Nardo. Biznarrdo.
quote:Originally posted by Red Arrow: Let's keep playing with the evil potential. Dark Reign II is a joke, but we can dance along that gray line. I would love to pull out some Marvel villains (or at least villainous costume designs) and just unleash them onto the LMB world. I really want to do a Marvel costume party.
Think about Shakespeare and Faust and you can see the shades of gray in literature.
Arrow, I'll admit that your character's continuity confuses me, so you'll pardon me if that left me a bit lost.
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